Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 1)

Wow @Voxel , that is some good science, and makes a lot of sense. It’s a low carb diet, but def not keto. I’ve had some luck on this diet in the past and gotta do something to lose me “COVID 19 lbs”.
I thought the depression had more to do with cutting out beer tho~

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Calorie restriction in and of itself can cause depressive symptoms. Seeing as a person can be simultaneously fat and undernourished I’m not even certain that a caloric deficit is a prerequisite to have depressive symptoms be related to nutrition.

Further still, as I’ve been increasingly brought into the loop about dietary habits of people outside the circle this forum constitutes and the kind of people it attracts I’ve garnered that friends of mine that are twenty to thirty, maybe even forty, kilos overweight eat maybe 1000-1500 calories on a normal day, super restrictive, clean and then Friday hits and in two to three days (Friday and Saturday chiefly, maybe a midday treat Sunday) they make up for all the caloric debt they’ve accumulated and of course end up packing on even more weight.

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Let the soothing words of Jon Andersen cure your low carb depression

And if you need something more straightforward

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Okay, DAMN! That guy is both awesome and hilarious!
Maybe when I’m no longer weepy, I’ll automatically grow a set?
Haha, damn.

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On a higher note, my Safety Squat Bar came in yesterday, just in tome for leg day today!

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I confess my girlfriend brought home a steak so big I have no idea how to cook it. My man card is in question after I cut it into 4 pieces just to get it to cook.

2 of these ribeyes are over 1” thick just to give you an idea of size.

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Looks manly to this Viking

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If it makes you feel better. I recently (as in 3 days ago) started eating honey or dried fruit as a snack before bed instead of yoghurt or cheese (calories the same) and have noticed that I feel better the next morning

With that said, it hasn’t done anything great for body comp… :sweat_smile:

Also, butter and liver make for a great preworkout meal

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A step in the right direction and we will be happy having you in our ranks but the path to this destination is a long one… Call us back when you make him the little spoon and whisper in his ear you looked pretty tonight, Princess before feeling him up.

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Yeah basically, he’s quite big on how diet affects your brain and how it interacts with your neurotype. It’s very interesting, I never knew about it before I started reading his work.

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Neither did I.

In many ways I feel bad, because there is a lot of utility therein and I think the model sometimes is viewed in less than a positive light.

It’s my belief that one reason this happened is because after the initial publications, his understanding evolved, and ultimately some implications that stemmed from the original ideas weren’t as applicable when one related it back to the underpinning mechanics on a neurotransmitter level.

Unfortunately, no matter if you have a training model or a higher overarching set of guiding principles the problem — even within the hard sciences — changing things makes the audience lose some faith which is ironic because it makes more sense to trust something that has been revised and corrected.

That’s one reason. Perhaps the primary reason. I don’t know what the secondary, and tertiary points to make here would be. Possibly that the specific types were given more attention than the real tangible benefit which, in my humble opinion, is: cancel out all the outside noise and be attentive towards what works for you and lean into that tendency heavily.

And that applies to training and “diet”. I use the quotes because I mean way of eating, not how to cut.

Regrettably, I haven’t been able to keep up with CTs revised understanding. As far as I can garner, the system retains the same archetypes. And if you think about it, that makes sense. If the system had its origins in recognising behavioural patterns in athletes and clients, those prototypical examples remain unchanged. The only input that is variable is what serves to make them behave and respond in the ways that they do.

Of course, if you understand the inputs better, you might arrive at that some recommendations for these people need revising too. I believe the training recommendations have remained essentially the same. But dietary advice has been updated a bit as far as I can tell with my limited outside knowledge.

I don’t have an exhaustive list of examples but I do have at least one. Previously, Type 1A, the intensity driven people, were assumed to not need a lot of carbs. This has changed. My gut tells me that, as before, they remain serotonin dominant but its now understood that to keep serotonin that high they need carbs to maintain those high levels of serotonin. But previously, this wasn’t the recommended macro split for them.

I lack the prerequisite knowledge to revamp my own understanding of his system, nor can I afford to purchase the updated materials to skip the reverse-engineering approach and just overwrite my previous understanding with his updates. I respect that the diets from which I could conceivably reverse-engineer this are proprietary and make up part of his livelihood which is why I have kept from asking for clarifications that aren’t directly applicable to myself and have instead preferred to remain silent rather than ask him on his forum.

I’m very big on mental models, even though they are inherently always flawed, and I derive great pleasure in mapping things like this out by inference as its almost like a very advanced puzzle.

But, and I write this for a younger version of myself, and now we are backtracking to what I wrote earlier,

cancel out all the outside noise and be attentive towards what works for you and lean into that tendency heavily.

Imagine that no-one ever published the idea of neurotypes. Poliquin never mapped people to five elements. The Braverman test was never produced. So, your entire being is a black box and there isn’t an output that has a quick and easy label to affix it to.

But your goal remains the same. Figure out what kind of inputs (training/diet) makes you feel good and allow you to progress. Finding a way to train that doesn’t drive you mental, that doesn’t make your mind wander with boredom intra-session, that doesn’t make it so that you engage in counterproductive behaviour by sneaking in extra work because you were unable to scratch your own itch or makes you crash mid-session.

And dietarily, find meals that satiate you and fuel you. That doesn’t make you have sleep issues, that doesn’t drain you of motivation and turn you into a warm body pillow prodded on the couch.

How would you do that?

Try shit out patiently. Discard what doesn’t work. Keep whatever does. Occasionally dare to revisit and revise. Lean into that natural tendency that supports your goals (so no-one writes “my natural tendency is pizza and beer :fu::fu::fu: @Voxel” )

Dietarily, try various approaches for a while. If you feel bad on it, it doesn’t matter what the science says. If you feel like crap, you have empirical evidence that whatever you are doing doesn’t mesh with yourself as an organism. That applies equally well to macro-splits and food choices.

Or, to put it in an analogous way. Let’s say the science unequivocally said kiwis were the healthiest fruit around. But, when you eat it you get an allergic response. Then it doesn’t really matter what the science says. Right?

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Agreed, this is what it really comes down to at the end of the day. Nothing ever beats real-world results.

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I confess I got Hawaiian BBQ and did NOT get mac salad and rice

My wife threatened annulment.

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This Hawaiian bbq has piqued my interest.

What makes a good Hawaiian bbq- good?

(I know thats an “eye of the beholder” question).

I’m going to ask my brother the same, cuz he spends a good bit of time there too.

Then put it all together and commit a food abomination.

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Judge them by their chicken katsu. The sauce specifically.

And they need to serve Aloha Shoyu. If they serve kikkoman, they are for tourists.

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Had a major win today. Attended a virtual seminar and it happened to be related to stuff I’d been reading up on, so I asked questions that weren’t stupid.

The presenter and my advisor (who was also on the call) both said I asked great questions!

Confession: I was cooking lunch for half the presentation
corollary: Zoom classes suck, but I really like zoom meetings

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Ewwww…liver.

Just can’t do liver.

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That looks delicious

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I’m a walking Chinese food meme :joy::joy:

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It wasn’t the best I ever had, but it DEFINITELY scratched the itch. I miss local food so much.

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