Flame Free Confession III: Even More Flame Free (Part 1)

Try “Practice Christmas”. Done that a few times. Or “Half Christmas”. Used to do that at uni quite a bit, June 25th was usually around when everyone would leave to go home for summer so it was pretty popular.

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Or give up on waiting for the general public to approve of your gluttony and relish in their disgust.

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Every year I do one of these to get my timings right. Every christmas I get all my food (normally for 10ppl) on the table warm and carved. My friends and family are amazed every time. But it takes a whole day of practice and note taking. Hell - I even have an schedule for the oven and what pan goes on which hob!

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I confess I don’t understand how ppl manage to use “cheat days” (gluttony) to fuel workouts.
I for one can’t push myself when my gut is messed up
Confession: I’m probably using poor digestion as an excuse not to workout today :joy:

It’s better than watching America’s next top model :joy::joy:

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I’ll phrase my reply here carefully so it isn’t a flame!

I eat gluttonously semi regularly, but because I eat normally the rest of the time it doesn’t cause me any digestive issues, apart from the very immediate need to lie down and sleep, but after a couple of hours or so no problems, next day wouldn’t phase my system to do it all again.

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400+ years ago we had Bach.

200 years ago we had Liszt.

100 years go, Miles Davis was born.

Just 50 years ago we had Led Zeppelin.

It was all going so well…

Yesterday, my bro was watching a YouTube video of a dude playing Guitar Hero with 4 million subscribers.

We’re doomed as a species. Doomed…

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Confession: I’m 210 and holding at this weight, this makes me overweight by BMI, instead of this motivating me to lose weight I feel it is a challenge to hit 234 and be officially obese. Might add it to list of 2021 goals.

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Christmas is the only meal of the year I plan like a Come Dine with me contestant. The scale of the organisation is pretty next level, even for me.

I don’t, personally. That sounds awful and counterintuitive. I eat to recover from a workout, so if I intend to eat big, I’d better workout really hard first.

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It’s real fun when you get an old school doctor who walks in talking about your morbid obesity and the look of disbelief when he shakes your hand.
I can’t believe something as dated as BMI is still considered sound medicine by many doctors.

Left a doctor years ago because I he said I should get down to 200 lbs to correct my BMI. I informed him I hadn’t been less than 200 lbs since 8th grade. He legitimately thought I was joking.

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Back when my family lived in the states, Chinese families would host these massive holiday parties with 50-60ppl. It was potluck style so ppl would bring stuff, but it took a minimum of 3 days prep on the host family’s part.

The largest one we ever hosted had 80ppl

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I’ve been toying with the idea of mentioning something along this line. I’m glad you’re seeing it.

I don’t notice any ill effects either. While I occasionally want to curl up and sleep it off, usually I feel perfectly normal again a half hour after I’ve overeaten. Two hours later I’m generally thinking about a snack.

Going back to @whang’s emotional health, why does a cheat day have to be attached to a workout plan? Why can’t it be a separate thing? I have gone to a holiday dinner or summertime cookout; I will enjoy myself thoroughly regardless of this morning’s workout, or tomorrow’s. These are things I do for ME. I work out, enjoy foods of all sorts (healthy and not), delight in a warm bed, relish a hot shower, enjoy a day spent outside doing manual labor. There doesn’t HAVE to be a reward/punishment system for these things.

I do believe in trying to maintain balance…yesterday I half-assed my workout because of schedule constraints, then feasted. Today I’ll be nicely on track. But I confess that I believe there can be such a thing as compulsive behavior in moderation.

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100% recognized. Men in my family tend to exist on the obsessive and self destructive side of the spectrum, and though I didn’t hit the bottle like is the typical for my family, I still find a way. If I can get my doc off my back after Jan, I intend to repair my relationship with food, but right now it is a means to an end.

I also appreciate your concern. It means a lot.

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I don’t get it. How is what you’re doing disorderly. Your behaviours seem to reflect a rational consideration for efficiency, and there are no emotions tied in

Anna, you don’t get it because you have an eating disorder. This will appear normal to you.

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I agree 100% In fact, it’s my little girls birthday 2 days ago, and a party for her tomorrow. I will not be considering lifting or calories when I enjoy both of these events and if situations present themselves in life to enjoy myself with my family, I’ll do that without trying to contorted the experience to fit diet or fitness goals. In between those events though, I try to think of food as a recovery tool because if I think of it other ways I get really, really fat.

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Turkey can be good no doubt, the one we had yesterday was great actually. I think I’ve only had like 3 or 4 truly bad turkeys on Thanksgiving my whole life. It’s just, compared to all the carby, fatty goodness that joins it, it just becomes a protein source to me haha.

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I enjoy the drumsticks, because I can pretend I am Conan.

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Mediterranean countries, in general, are bad. Italy comes to mind first.

But Israel is particularly bad both because of a mix of road types — very modern, state of the art, and whatever system Jerusalem has that is 3500 years old based on how goats wandered one day.

Then you have all the people expelled from the surrounding counties, then Germanic style driving, then Soviet style driving.

And then lots of tourists that rent cars.

It’s truly a unique mess.

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