This sounds relatively rational when compared to the logic I encountered in the posts about dealing with public servants I deleted cos I gave too much personal info. However, it’s why I just go nuts when reading that forum since it reminds me of them.
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I confess I have a feeling Asians of the Oriental(trust me, this term is NOT racist) variety take exponential growth when it comes to COVID more seriously because we play lots of mahjong.
Example:
1 Tai: $ 4
2 Tai: $ 8
3 Tai: $ 16
4 Tai: $ 32
5 Tai: $ 64
Tai = something like points.
EDIT:
Deleted some stuff(NOTHING RACIAL nor Xenophobic. Not even sexist so don’t panties in a bunch). Not going any further than this to avoid anyone getting offended.
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I confess that I can spot some guys right off as having come in with the new forum, because they are so friggin’ weird and type pointless posts asking bizarre questions about fairly useless things. Thankfully some decent guys came in from there too, offsets the loony contingent. “Inroading”. How about lift something and stop philosophising needlessly? I’ll also confess that theses guys appear to be trying to come off as deep or intelligent, but in reality appear to be utter morons.
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It’s like an interesting combination of Yoda speak and Old Timey.
Surprised I am, that there have been no challenges to fisticuffs. Yet.
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I confess that I read through half of that thread and I’m still not really sure what it’s about
I confess that I’m probably going to drop dead tomorrow.
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Told you all Arnold’s already dead and it’s been his stunt double from T2 pretending to be him all this time.
Believe me now?
Would the real Arnold have starred in:
Last Action Hero
Junior
Jingle All the Way
Batman and Robin
The other 3 Terminator films?
This is what the fake Arnold we’re seeing today really sounds like. They thought they could cover it up but it got hacked and leaked online by the Russians:
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This year I looked at TRT - and took a phone call from the clinic. I was honest with the guy about why I was looking (exposure to the idea through a weight lifting forum) and in the most English of ways he ripped into “internet doctors”.
At no point did he any anything rude or offensive. But it was comments like “I don’t think I’d feel comfortable giving out complex medical advice over the internet. Especially if I’d spent less than half an hour researching on line.”
Confession:
I’m on the fence with getting a blood test for TRT. The self evaluation questionnaire came in “possible low T”.
And the pin prick test is only £40.
Whats stopping me is the proper blood test. I pass out every time. And its not the passing out that’s the issue. Its the nauseous feeling for quaver of an hour after.
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Not even talking about doctors here, but in my profession, I would never give anyone any specific advice just like that if he knew my profession and regarded me as an authority on the subject because I would open myself to being sued if he took any advice I gave him and relied on it when he made a loss. I would only do this if he engaged my services and then there’s a whole lot of stuff to be done before I can even make specific recommendations.
I can’t even imagine what the liabilities would be like for doctors, especially in the US where people seem to love suing.
Confession:
I wish some sort of case like this can be made for people who establish themselves as authorities on TRT and post advice on public forums since TRT doctors are widely available, I just wanna see how many of the current guys will have the balls to do so after that happens.
Not talking about people who give advice in steroid forums because there’s no other way to get any form of advice on steroids.
Yeah I think its inevitable . There is a very fine line between:
Have you asked about swapping from weekly to E3.5D pinning
&
Your Doc is an idiot. Here’s how to manipulate the tests and results.
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The thing is I don’t know how this can apply to a non-professional giving his “opinion”.
BUT:
@EyeDentist, @whang, @Jewbacca
Correct ne if I’m wrong, but I have a feeling a doctor doing something like this would be subject to both civil and criminal suits if something goes terribly wrong if the victim relies on his advice based on him being an authority on the subject because of his profession.
So giving advice like this is just morally fucked up to the max if you don’t even have a medical background.
Regardless, I would REALLY LOVE to see whether these guys arguing their asses off and trying to assert dominance would even dare make a post if they were subject to any liabilities.
This is correct. As a physician, the liabilities and problems stemming from informal internet doctoring are multiple. The core issue is that if you 1) present yourself as a physician, and 2) offer someone specific medical advice, you have entered into a doctor-pt relationship with that individual, with all the medicolegal entanglements thereof. These include:
–The medical board in the state in which the physician is licensed will be interested as to whether the care provided met the ‘standard of care’ for the practice of medicine in that state. Tell us, doctor: Did you take an appropriate/complete history? Did you do an appropriate/complete physical exam? Also, we will need to see the formal medical record that was created to document the initial and all subsequent encounters. (What’s that you say–you didn’t create a medical record and store it in a HIPAA-compliant manner? Oh dear.) If all of this is not up to muster, odds are the board will suspend the physician’s license, as well as require them to get extensive (and expensive) continuing medical education regarding the ethics of medical practice. As you might imagine, sensible physicians are reluctant to risk losing their income and shelling out cash for the privilege of providing free medical care to strangers on the internet.
–Similarly, in establishing a doctor-pt relationship with the advisee, the physician is de jure practicing medicine in the state where that individual resides. Is that a different state than yours, doc? If so, the medical board in that state will be very curious as to whether you’re licensed to practice there. And if you’re not, you could go to jail for practicing medicine without a license. (Not to mention, the board in your home state won’t be thrilled with this either.)
–Finally: In establishing a doctor-pt relationship with the advisee, the physician has opened themselves up to all the medicolegal vulnerabilities that adhere to such a relationship. Put bluntly, the advisee can sue the physician for malpractice if s/he is unhappy with the medical care provided. And if the suit is successful…Because the care provided took place outside the scope of their license, the physician’s malpractice insurer ain’t paying the judgment–the physician him/herself is, personally.
I’m certain the lawyers can explicate any number of other unpleasant implications of informal internet doctoring.
I hope folks can see that, if someone claiming to be a doctor dispenses medical advice in an informal setting such as an internet forum, it follows that either s/he has very poor judgment, or isn’t actually a practicing physician at all. Whichever it is, caveat emptor.
Indeed, such individuals are opening themselves up to a charge of practicing medicine sans license as described above, and potentially going to jail for it.
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I confess that sometimes the questions I read on this site make me want to snap.
Then I realize it doesn’t matter and I calm down enough to not burst a blood vessel.
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Thanks for the long write-up. It is similar in principle to my profession, just that we are only open to civil liabilities, which is why we have our own unspoken code of ethics when dispensing advice or even helping out a person to a certain extent.
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I kinda guessed this was the case, which is a major reason why I stopped posting in the steroid forum right at the time one guy did this because it was the final straw when people started believing and taking him seriously which made me realize the collective intellect there and the willingness to purchase snake oil didn’t justify my participation any longer.
I only posted there because there was no other place steroid users could get information and getting somewhat “proper” advice other than their dealers so it would result in at least a better outcome for them without the existence of “steroid doctors”. I would, and have never posted in the TRT forum other than in the thread about “stupid things doctors say”, which disgusted me a little, and in one where a guy previously posted in the steroid forum was clearly suffering greatly where I was telling him explicitly to get the fuck off the internet and listen to your doctors.
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^ backround to last part:
Short summary:
Dude suffers from major depression from abuse of 2g of testosterone a week. I tell him to go see a doctor and DON’T omit any details pertaining to his steroid use since he lives in a country where such use is legal. Idiots in the steroid forum tell him it’s due to high E2.
Same Dude gets diagnosed with adrenal insufficiency which supposedly caused his depression.
Comes back with a severe outbreak of full body acne. I tell him to stop cruising with 400mg a week and listen to his doctors and don’t omit any details of his steroid use. Idiots tell him in the TRT forum tell him it was due to too much E2…
Darwinism in action. Let it be.
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Jesus Chirst the madness in the When is TRT not TRT thread is still going on.
I confess I just wanna post something stupid but sounds like I know what I’m talking about like:
(Note to non-degenerate roid users: Testosterone suspension is just testosterone normally injected mixed in water and it HURTS like someone just hit you with a hammer at the injection site.)
“A meta-analysis of 12,725 studies has shown that intratesticular administration of testosterone suspension preparations results in 10-24 times more gains in total skeletal muscle tissue when compared with other testosterone based compounds”
“A recent study has shown that intratesticular injection of testosterone(T) suspension upregulates Type 1 IGF receptors of the Leydig cells whilst preventing testicular atrophy, therefore eliminating the need for HCG for preservation of fertility in 20,000 male subjects”
“Frequency of administration was based on estimated half life of each ester or lack thereof”
"T enanthate administered by intramuscular injection into the medial deltoid was frontloaded in the amount of 3x the specified weekly dose to reach peak plasma levels on day one, followed by by the specified weekly dose administered over 2 days a week.
“The same weekly dose of T suspension was administered over multiple daily doses spaced 2 hours apart, 6x the 2 hourly dose was administered prior to sleep to maintain steady state plasma levels.”
“90 percent of subjects in the T suspension group experienced increases in total lean body mass by 2,354% more within an 8 week period when compared to the testosterone enanthate group.”
“10 percent of subjects in the T suspension group had to be prematurely removed because 4% had frequent sightings of dead relatives while 6 percent had to be physically retrieved from a portal of unknown origin by a psychic midget lady.”
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Instead of a meme generator, the world needs an abstract generator. You plug in a subject and some key words and it generates a comical but real sounding abstract. Like Mad Libs but with sciency words. Like blumpikinesiology or flatugogical.
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