I confess that I deleted Facebook from my phone and may not re-activate it until I’m officially a gigging musician again. Negativity had seeped out of the virtual world and into my real world, which absolutely nobody has time for.
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If this is refering to while working out, I’d imagine this is probably more dangerous in the short term than COVID for most regular gym goers.
Breathing with a regular mask (not a respirator) on is not inhibited, it wouldn’t be dangerous, just really annoying.
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I deleted it nearly 5 years ago. Half of my friends were from my liberal hometown in NY and the other half were from the Marines and the South, I couldn’t handle how retarded everybody was on both sides, and I got tired of asking people if they even ran a simple google search on ANY of the bullshit they post or send on.
Combine that with the fact that social media surrounds you with suggested articles that fuel your already entrenched beliefs, and that social media/YouTube is where most people get their news nowadays, and it’s really no surprise things are the way they are.
Anyways, this is dangerously close to PWI content, so I’ll cut it off and just say, good on you, you won’t regret it.
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Thanks for the encouragement. Same-ish situation. Former manufacturing worker from a suuuuper redneck town, with college friends and music friends. Wildly different, wildly dumb, wildly unfounded stances abound. Looking forward to staying the hell away from the cesspool.
Do you gig at all still? Any gig promotion tips without facebook? You can respond in my log if you’re not wanting to derail this any further.
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this is the bullshit that, time and time again, has chased off EXCELLENT lifters. They get called out for no goddamn good reason, and they know that there is absolutely no incentive to continue to engage with mindless underachievers. I’m not speaking about you specifically, jshaving. Just the concept I’ve seen time and time again. I truly don’t understand why it is is that anyone on here who has extraordinary results is suddenly a liar. We have waaaay too many examples of guys who have been awesome and proven themselves right before saying ‘peace out fuckers.’
Do I know FOR SURE that nutty was legit? No, I’ve never met him in person. But I’ve met multiple TNation members who people didn’t believe were ‘real’. And if the basis for the argument is ‘he claimed to squat 500x3 at 185 bodyweight’, or whatever, you can fuck off with that. I’ve done that, and I train with another guy who could do that today. I train with a lifter who, in the last 2 weeks, squatted 600 in sleeves, deadlifted in the mid 600’s, and axle clean and pressed 280 for a TRIPLE. And he weighs under 190.
Consider this possibility: What if I never shared pictures or videos of myself? What if, 7 years ago (or however long it’s been since I started really making improvements), I never posted anything but my stats. You guys would have seen a guy with like a 900 lbs powerlifting total go to 1500, win a bunch of strongman shows, total elite in PL, walking around at 200 lbs but making weight at 181, telling you ‘I eat poptarts and ice cream every day and I’m fucking ripped, like 8% bodyfat year round’. That’s ridiculous, right? Everyone would have called me a liar. And if I had been a more private person and not wanted to ‘prove myself’, if I had just been here to share a success story but not wanted to be personally identified (plenty of good reasons for that, to be sure), I would have been called a liar at every turn, and I would have likely disappeared with no reason to further explain myself.
Just something to think about.
Great example of exactly what I’m talking about. I met yogi in Edinburgh, Scotland several years ago while I was on vacation there. He is 100% the person he said he was. Really fucking cool dude, the next time I’m in Scotland I’m sure I’ll reach out again.
Yogi definitely looked better than most posters I see on here who shit-talked him. And when I saw him, he wasn’t even in shape by his own standards.
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At the risk of derailing this already derailed thread, your situation would still be way different than Nutty’s, your PL totals can be found online, your strongman finishes can be proven, and even if you didn’t do any competition and didn’t want to prove anything because of privacy, you’d still be in a different situation because he repeatedly promised people all sorts of proof - that was not something that he had to do. Nobody even took a second glance at him until he wrote his “beginner’s program”. I never thought twice about anything Yogi said even before I heard you’d met him. The basis for everyone’s argument was NOT that those lifts are unachievable at all. It was that he was offering up all sorts of proof and then reneging every time people asked, plus he had posted now-deleted videos of himself in the past to check form. Maybe others feel differently, but nothing that he did screamed “unachievable” or “impossible” to me whatsoever.
Also - it’s the internet. We had the @physiolojik episode not long before all of that. So as likely as it is that he was telling the truth, it should be equally as likely, if we’re not being naive, that he was one of the countless people on the internet who just make stuff up for the kudos.
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yea I guess I should clarify that in the scenario I was describing for myself, I would have been avoiding identifying myself entirely. Meaning, you could not look any of my accomplishments up online.
Nutty just logged waaaaay too much, and was too smart about training to come off to me as a liar. Like I said, it’s possible. But as far as I’m aware, we have not hand anyone come through TNation who logged so many workouts, and then ended up being ‘fake’. And I personally don’t think the fact that he initially offered proof and retracted it was evidence of anything. I feel like you’re forgetting that that is EXACTLY what Yogi did. He said over and over and over again that he would post some pictures, videos, etc, and always failed to follow through. And actually that’s a big part of why some people (obviously not you) called him out as a liar. Yogi, and potentially nutty, wanted to prove himself, but just couldn’t pull the trigger on it for one reason or another. It’s understandable to me.
While I understand that some trolls just troll to troll, and their actions are really difficult to understand, I just don’t see any reasonable end game for nutty to lie. He described very reasonable progression running programs that are, you know, good programs. I remember when he started out, and he was so clueless. He listened to the good advice, and then he came back and told us the good advice paid off. I can’t think of a single instance where he didn’t come off as insightful. And again, I know this isn’t proof that he is who he said he is, I just don’t see a good reason to believe he isn’t.
If all I was seeing here from some of you guys was ‘I’m just not sure’, that’s one thing. But that’s not what I’m seeing. I’ll go back and look through some of his posts, maybe I’ll see your point of view better if I read his last posts with that in mind.
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Dunno - you’ve been here way longer and have way more of a good picture of what goes on here than I do, I also don’t think my opinion holds enough weight to disprove anyone else’s. I’d probably just stick with my gut if I were you. I’m a bit of a cynic when it comes to the internet. It’s all pretty inconsequential, and I know a few of us would actually be really tickled if Nutty came back, posted a video where he shits on all of us with proof, and then fades into the darkness doing the Carlton dance. I definitely feel pretty strongly that he was full of shit, but I have no way of proving anything anyhow. I will say that your explanation does make me stop to think a bit more about it than my initial knee-jerk reaction, though.
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Back on topic, after years of not bothering with much direct ab work, I confess I’m now an every-day-abs guy, and it seems to be working.
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I trust my gut, but I trust yours too. lol. You’re not saying this for no reason, and I’m always willing to change my opinion with new evidence. I’ll look through some old posts.
is it b/c he’s been an every-day-abs guy now? makes a strong gut an all
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I confess I’ve never posted a lifting video, sure, I trained at busy gyms, but if I’m being honest, I’m just lazy 
Same goes for implementing band and chain stuff
Cost of being doxed isn’t worth it. I’ve only connected with four people outside of this site, because I waited for the likliehood of them trolling to diminish. Yogi being one.
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Does it matter? I mean really?
Some people (flip as an example) have provided me with helpful advice. If flip was some 150lb weakling would that in anyway diminish the effectiveness of the advice. No. It was good advice. I’ll take it and be thankful. Sure some peoples advice is more trusted based on their achievements.
Perhaps if you felt like you had a friendship with nutty you can feel let down. But in reality we lost a good guy.
Nutty was the single most positive person on the forum. His replies to what were some plain stupid people were brilliant. Patient and understanding. I genuinely had so much respect that. But either he felt to earn everyones respect he had to lie OR continuously validate his performance.
I dont care if he was a liar. He helped me more than once and he was pleasant over the internet to people he didn’t know. Those carry a lot of credit compared to adding few lbs to your squat to impress a few guys on the internet.
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Make a boxing training montage. Do you have access to a snowy mountain and an old barn? Or maybe it’d be easier to just go to Philly.
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If I have to fight a pro boxing match, I’m going with Ivan’s training montage, in a hot boxing gym that much more closely mimics fight conditions, with all sorts of machines, tons of trainers, tracking progress, actually sparring with people, and of course, taking steroids. Virtually none of what Rocky did even made sense.
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I would hope nobody would just undo progress made as a result of someone’s advice if they were found out to be a liar after the fact, but shit, if it doesn’t matter if someone’s a liar, then integrity means nothing anymore. That’s a slippery slope.
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really? i was pretty sure i’d seen some videos from you. squatting maybe?
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Oh yeah… but those were for form check and a LONG time ago. I hate how I have to first upload to Youtube before I can post
Also, my school email doesn’t let me post on youtube, so there’s that now
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