^^^
well put.
When I used to work in a gym I’d ask new clients what kind of body they were looking for so I could give them an appropriate routine. Not once did anyone say they wanted the “shredded” physique of a distance runner. Running that sort of distance would get you fit but would be extremely catabolic.
[quote]OldSchoolSwole wrote:
Running 2 miles, 3-4 times per week at a challenging pace helps me to lean out, feel healthy, and is very good training for my cardiovascular system.
I am a muscular guy, and relatively strong, but I understand that I am never going to step onto the professional bodybuilding stage. I have no desire to build 20 inch arms or squat a thousand pounds.
I train to live.
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Yeah, but that’s not what the OP was talking about. You can run 2 miles in less than 20 minutes easily. He was talking about running 5-10 miles, 2-3 times a week.
I agree with the OP. Arnold probably would have won like 6 more Olympias if he had ran 25 miles a week. Someone should send this shit to Kai, just the edge he needs for the upcoming Olympia.
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
Forced laborers in concentration camps ARE lean.
Bodybuilders WANT to be lean.
Forced laborers in concentration camps are starved and become lean.
thus…
Bodybuilders should starve themselves and work in forced labor camps! You see its not really that complicated!
To the OP. This is a good example of taking an idea that may work for you, and without applying it to other people to test your theory, just running with it like its a fact.
Some people can put alot of mileage on their body running and still maintain a good level of muscularity. In my experience this almost entirely because of an individuals make up, and almost nothing to do with running.
If you keep using your body for endurance, it is going to be good at endurance exercise and it is going to get worse at strength exercises. It is also going to start working poorly. Your not going to be able to do good deadlifts and squats while putting 20 miles a week on your body.
Running on pavement in shoes at the same speed is not natural. Sprinting from time to time is natural.
Even if you dont want to look like a bodybuilder, you would be in much better shape doing circuits than running. Face it man, running sucks, its just the way it is.[/quote]
If I ever open a gym, I am going to call it “Forced Labor”. Get shredded.
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
What about guys in the military?
There are plenty of big guys with plenty of muscle in the military and you know they run a lot.
Where do they fit in?[/quote]
I would think eating a shit load fixes this. I am by no means a 250lb BBer, but I run quite a bit and am not rails skinny either. I think hungry is in the Marines if I am not mistaken. Also, I think HolyMax is in the Army and he has plenty of muscle.
[quote]Fandango wrote:
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
What about guys in the military?
There are plenty of big guys with plenty of muscle in the military and you know they run a lot.
Where do they fit in?[/quote]
I would think eating a shit load fixes this. I am by no means a 250lb BBer, but I run quite a bit and am not rails skinny either. I think hungry is in the Marines if I am not mistaken. Also, I think HolyMax is in the Army and he has plenty of muscle.[/quote]
I think you’re 100% correct here.
Yes elite runners are very skinny but:
- They have naturally skinny builds.
- They limit their calories to avoid having too much muscle (for their sport).
- They avoid hard lifting for the same reason and because it isn’t running specific.
I’m sure running isn’t helping people get huge, but I think a lot of people overstate its negative effects. Someone who runs, eats a lot and lifts hard can still get pretty big.
[quote]Fandango wrote:
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
What about guys in the military?
There are plenty of big guys with plenty of muscle in the military and you know they run a lot.
Where do they fit in?[/quote]
I would think eating a shit load fixes this. I am by no means a 250lb BBer, but I run quite a bit and am not rails skinny either. I think hungry is in the Marines if I am not mistaken. Also, I think HolyMax is in the Army and he has plenty of muscle.[/quote]
“A lot” of running really depends on who you ask, as does “plenty” of muscle. Most guys in the military that I know don’t run what a track or cc runner would consider “a lot.” Most are also not what most people here would think of as huge. The general public maybe, but not bodybuilders and powerlifters.
Personally, I do about 30 mi/wk, and I’m 6’2" and walk around at about 210. I also hit the weights pretty hard to maintain just the muscle I have. For comparison, before I went in I was 240lbs and my squat was 100lbs heavier. Yes, I can stay pretty big, but I do it in spite of the running, not because of it, and I’ll never hit my PL PR’s again until I don’t have to worry about running sub 21-min 3 milers.
[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
[quote]Fandango wrote:
[quote]ANIMAL M0THER wrote:
What about guys in the military?
There are plenty of big guys with plenty of muscle in the military and you know they run a lot.
Where do they fit in?[/quote]
I would think eating a shit load fixes this. I am by no means a 250lb BBer, but I run quite a bit and am not rails skinny either. I think hungry is in the Marines if I am not mistaken. Also, I think HolyMax is in the Army and he has plenty of muscle.[/quote]
“A lot” of running really depends on who you ask, as does “plenty” of muscle. Most guys in the military that I know don’t run what a track or cc runner would consider “a lot.” Most are also not what most people here would think of as huge. The general public maybe, but not bodybuilders and powerlifters.
Personally, I do about 30 mi/wk, and I’m 6’2" and walk around at about 210. I also hit the weights pretty hard to maintain just the muscle I have. For comparison, before I went in I was 240lbs and my squat was 100lbs heavier. Yes, I can stay pretty big, but I do it in spite of the running, not because of it, and I’ll never hit my PL PR’s again until I don’t have to worry about running sub 21-min 3 milers.[/quote]
I take it that you are in the Marines running 3 milers. I definitely know what you mean about never really hitting PL PR’s while keeping a good distance run time. Many years in the future when I am done with the Army I don’t know if I will ever do distance running again.