[quote]Sikkario wrote:
For real, I think Wilders is a pussy tho, cuz of that “the sound is a phonebook page being ripped out or whatever.”
He should have ripped out a page of the Koran, and then burned it.
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For once, you rock.
-but don’t you get it? It was a mindfuck. He wanted to offend people with a sleight of hand.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
but don’t you get it? It was a mindfuck. He wanted to offend people with a sleight of hand.[/quote]
Well, it fell flat.
In my opinion, it had nothing to do with a “mindfuck”. If he wanted to screw any minds, he wouldn’t have noted that the sound was a page from a phonebook. The only reason he did it in that way was in an attempt to retain a shred of credibility.
Now all the anticipation and hype he managed to rattle, that was a “mindfuck”!
[quote]lixy wrote:
Now all the anticipation and hype he managed to rattle, that was a “mindfuck”![/quote]
I call it good sales.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Now all the anticipation and hype he managed to rattle, that was a “mindfuck”!
I call it good sales.[/quote]
In this case, it’s more along the lines of attention-whore.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Now all the anticipation and hype he managed to rattle, that was a “mindfuck”!
I call it good sales.
"…attention-whore.[/quote]
interesting.
I find it a very interesting movie.
As a piece of work with an objective i think he’s done very well for himself. Something that has already been said here by a few posters.
I do feel that he totally misconstrued the fundamentals of Islam. Sure, that wasn’t his goal I suppose but stuff like this just fuels ignorant and useless violence the world over.
Now I’m not Muslim but from what I gather, Islam, like most other religions is not a violent religion. It has, and similarly like other religions, been manipulated by certain figures (the ones you see in the film, and more) to suit their own personal agenda.
But hey, I might be wrong.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
Is the 15 Minute version, the full version?[/quote]
Yep.
[quote]swissrugby67 wrote:
I find it a very interesting movie.
As a piece of work with an objective i think he’s done very well for himself. Something that has already been said here by a few posters.
I do feel that he totally misconstrued the fundamentals of Islam. Sure, that wasn’t his goal I suppose but stuff like this just fuels ignorant and useless violence the world over.
Now I’m not Muslim but from what I gather, Islam, like most other religions is not a violent religion. It has, and similarly like other religions, been manipulated by certain figures (the ones you see in the film, and more) to suit their own personal agenda.
But hey, I might be wrong.
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You sure might.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
lixy wrote:
I wouldn’t normally link to articles that are split over several pages (an abhorrent practice!), but this is a must read.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4544952&page=1
But, but, I thought we couldn’t trust the money-hungry, biased American media?!?!?
And you shouldn’t. The idea is to get people doing their own research. It’s not like any of that is unverifiable, now is it?[/quote]
Nope. It’s plenty verifiable. ABC is reporting the standard Muslim kitman. What does Ibn Kathir say about the same verses?
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
If it was intended to demonize Muslims…the creator didn’t fabricate any of the shyt he put into there.
Ya, he drew the picture he wanted people to see, but all the works, videos and anything else in that film, were presented by Muslims themselves.
If you want to make a rebuttal called, Salaam.
And have all sorts of clips about how Islam is about peace, go ahead.
I just don’t find it offensive.
I’m the same guy, who thought it was funny, when Ahlmenijad threw his holocaust party in Tehran, and invited Condoleeza Rice and Merkel.
I’m all about trolling, and I don’t give a fuck if some cry baby muslims, are going to go throw a piss fit and blow themselves up somewhere, cuz they are too retarded to use a camcorder.[/quote]
This is one of your best.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Nice article fishing lixy. What did YOU think about the movie?[/quote]
If he doesn’t bash it his benefactor (whabi) will pull his educational stipend. I wouldn’t take anything he says seriously.
[quote]swissrugby67 wrote:
I find it a very interesting movie.
As a piece of work with an objective i think he’s done very well for himself. Something that has already been said here by a few posters.
I do feel that he totally misconstrued the fundamentals of Islam. Sure, that wasn’t his goal I suppose but stuff like this just fuels ignorant and useless violence the world over.
Now I’m not Muslim but from what I gather, Islam, like most other religions is not a violent religion. It has, and similarly like other religions, been manipulated by certain figures (the ones you see in the film, and more) to suit their own personal agenda.
But hey, I might be wrong.
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This is the best post in this thread.
Islam is for pussies, real men hail Mithra.
Nope, Tenggeri
Yes. Islam is a religion of peace, though they’re issuing death threats about a 15 minute movie that their own mujahideen could have made. Peaceful religion. Everyone back to sleep.
Here we go…
Two die in Nepal mosque bombing
[i]Two people have been killed and at least one more injured after a mosque was bombed in Nepal’s second biggest city, Biratnagar.
Reports say two men on a motorcycle hurled four bombs at the Choti mosque during evening prayers on Saturday.
Three of the devices exploded, and two of the people who were seriously injured died on their way to hospital.
A shadowy Hindu extremist group - the Nepal Defence Army - said in a statement it carried out the attack.
The group first emerged more than a year ago, saying it was fighting to preserve Nepal’s old status as a Hindu state.
An indefinite curfew has been imposed in the district.
Most of Nepal’s small Muslim minority live in the southern plains, where Biratnagar is situated.
For many months the region has seen ethnic tensions, with numerous antagonistic factions emerging.
Violence grounded in religion is rare, but some Hindu nationalists have threatened that it will increase because, they say, there is widespread resentment over Nepal being declared a secular state.
Nepal’s monarchy is closely bound-up with Hinduism. But after King Gyanendra’s royal government fell in 2006 the restored parliament declared the country secular.
Political violence has been steadily rising in the run-up to elections due in less than two weeks. [/i]
[quote]lixy wrote:
Here we go…
Two die in Nepal mosque bombing
[i]Two people have been killed and at least one more injured after a mosque was bombed in Nepal’s second biggest city, Biratnagar.
Reports say two men on a motorcycle hurled four bombs at the Choti mosque during evening prayers on Saturday.
Three of the devices exploded, and two of the people who were seriously injured died on their way to hospital.
A shadowy Hindu extremist group - the Nepal Defence Army - said in a statement it carried out the attack.
The group first emerged more than a year ago, saying it was fighting to preserve Nepal’s old status as a Hindu state.
An indefinite curfew has been imposed in the district.
Most of Nepal’s small Muslim minority live in the southern plains, where Biratnagar is situated.
For many months the region has seen ethnic tensions, with numerous antagonistic factions emerging.
Violence grounded in religion is rare, but some Hindu nationalists have threatened that it will increase because, they say, there is widespread resentment over Nepal being declared a secular state.
Nepal’s monarchy is closely bound-up with Hinduism. But after King Gyanendra’s royal government fell in 2006 the restored parliament declared the country secular.
Political violence has been steadily rising in the run-up to elections due in less than two weeks. [/i]
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Two die in Nepal mosque bombing [/quote]
The Hindus still have 10,797 terrorist attacks since 9/11 to catch up to the Muslims.
The Dutch Jewish population, being no strangers to persecutions and demonization through propaganda, aren’t even mildly amused by Wilders’ work.
Anti-Islam film ‘Fitna’ draws Dutch Jewish condemnations
[i]The newly-released anti-Islam film by right-wing Dutch legislator Geert Wilders drew condemnations from the Netherlands’ Central Jewish Board, which Friday called the film’s focus on anti-Jewish preachings by Muslims “counterproductive” and “generalizing.”
In keeping with Wilders’ belief in a Judeo-Christian partnership in the face of “the threat of Islam,” the 15-minute film, entitled “Fitna” - Arabic for strife - shows clerics calling to behead Jews, Koran passages equating Jews to “apes and swines” and photos of demonstrators promising “another Holocaust” and praising Adolf Hitler.
In a statement following the film’s online release, the board said that Wilders - the leader of the Party for Freedom - was guilty of serious generalizations. “Wilders presented demographics on the increase of Muslims in Europe with pictures from scenes of terrorist attacks, suggesting all Muslims are potential terrorists,” head of the Hague-based Center for Information and Documentation on Israel, Dr. Ronny Naftaniel, Saturday told Haaretz.
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While the anti-Semitic material Wilders compiled “demonstrates some Muslims have terrible ideas about Jews,” the way Fitna portrays reality serves to “polarize Dutch society,” the board said, adding this was counterproductive to the fight against extremism.
Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said he was “proud” of Dutch Muslims for their peaceful reaction to the film. Parliament is due to discuss Fitna on Tuesday.
The government feared religious riots if the footage was deemed offensive, but the umbrella group for Dutch Muslims said that the film does not insult their religion.[/i]
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/969825.html
This reaction has even more weight given that Wilders is the closest notable Dutch politician to Tel-Aviv.
So the film is having a positive effect.
In that is portrays Muslims in the West as violent, it encourages them to be non-violent to slough the stereotype.