First solid AAS cycle 16yr old

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Well, what did you mean?

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How about this.
You skip the whole hormone cycle thing and start a training log here.
We will all then help you develop a training program as well as a diet.
Where you can cycle in and out of training and dieting phases as we all did in order to get to where we all are now.

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Im on a bro split.
Monday, chest
Tueasday, back
Wednesday, shoulders
Thursday, arms
Friday, legs

Im on a high carb diet, around 300g
High protein, around 180g
Rest of my calories are in fats atleast 75g
Does this seem good, or do i need to change anything else?
Thanks

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Looks like an ā€œOkā€ start.
Now put this in the training logs section and we can get started on getting you some gains you can keep well into your old age.

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Itā€™s not ideal for your goals (which seem to be image based), but you can learn a lot about your anatomy and muscles by doing it. Consider a full-body split in a year or so, like starting strength or 531.

Just learn how to eat. Do a 33/33/33 and nail your nutrition around a workout.

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Your 195lbs @ 18%. Thats 160lbs LBM. If I were you at these specs my diet to grow would look like this.
160lbm x 1.25 for protien = 200g 800cals
160lbm x .4 for fats = 64g 576cals
Fill the rest with carbs 350g = 1400cal
This would put you at 2776cals to start
Start a training/diet log in the training logs section as was mentioned above. WE will help you on that front but not drugs. You donā€™t need them. You need to eat and train properly for your goals.

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That is likely for TRT, not AAS for adding muscle. And like I said, because I reaped what the youth of my time caused and it persists to this day, you too will be reaping.

You have free healthcare. Make an appointment with a doctor and ask him what AAS to take and dosage and duration. That is exactly how it worked in my case.

Just know that when it was okay for doctors to prescribe AAS, not every doctor was willing to do so. It could take a few tries to find one. You have some leg work to do. It was just the case that the doctor of my youth and teen years was willing to prescribe anabolic steroids me, until he retired. And then I was on the hunt. Misery loves company. Go to work.

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Alright that sounds good.
I will see a endocronoligist and a doctor to see how my body is maturing. I will also ask him about AAS.

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Alright that sounds good.
I will see a endocronoligist and a doctor to see how my body is maturing. I will also ask him about AAS

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Thanks, i will consider posting on there.

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Thanks, i have not heard about a full body split, but i will learn as much as i can on it and ask/design a good routine. On the workouts forum.

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Thank you for the dietplan and for not encouraging me on any anabolics.
I will clean up my diet and add the advice you gave me. I will track my improvements on the diet and workout forum in the future.

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Average male height in the Netherlands is actually six foot

Netherlands is one of the worlds tallest countries

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To be fair didnt Arnold cop his first prescription at 15?

It was a different timeā€¦ knowing the risks doctors arenā€™t going to dish out prescriptions like they used to

But clinic still exist in the USA where you can get some Deca, anavar, winny etc

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For whatever reason during my three decades of competing, we never discussed what Arnold took as it pertains to AAS, or when he started taking steroids. About all we discussed was how much bigger than Arnold that competitors were getting from the addition of HGH and insulin to their PED protocol, which seemed obvious that Arnold didnā€™t take (or at least get the size benefit of their addition.)

Yes it was. But when the hammer came down, the risk that concerned the doctors was losing the license. That caused the abrupt stop of doctors prescribing steroids.

There were plenty of doctors back then that feared the health risk. It took a while for someone to find a doctor who would prescribe AAS. And when a willing doctor was found, his name was shared with others very fast.

These were not in existence when I competed (1970 through the 1990ā€™s.)

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Youā€™re in the Netherlands, just eat horse meat.

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Sure. My local butcher sells it.
I will try it and post it on the food porn page

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