[quote]Max8950 wrote:
I know I will get to a 1500 total in no time[/quote]
How close are you now?
Also, I don’t really understand this thread at all. You train for powerlifting, have been training for this meet specifically for 6 months, and you came up 5 pounds short against a bodybuilder with a bad back who doesn’t even train with barbells. Am I missing something here? Don’t get me wrong, powerlifting’s my thing, and I think your enthusiasm for the sport itself is fantastic, I just don’t understand why you’re comparing your numbers to someone who, based on your description, doesn’t seem to care about his powerlifting total in any capacity. Perhaps your new gym will benefit you a great deal, and put some things in perspective.
As a side note, I see your profile says you’re in Texas. I am as well, what part of Texas are you in?
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Also, I don’t really understand this thread at all. You train for powerlifting, have been training for this meet specifically for 6 months, and you came up 5 pounds short against a bodybuilder with a bad back who doesn’t even train with barbells. Am I missing something here? Don’t get me wrong, powerlifting’s my thing, and I think your enthusiasm for the sport itself is fantastic, I just don’t understand why you’re comparing your numbers to someone who, based on your description, doesn’t seem to care about his powerlifting total in any capacity. Perhaps your new gym will benefit you a great deal, and put some things in perspective.
As a side note, I see your profile says you’re in Texas. I am as well, what part of Texas are you in?[/quote]
I think the whole deal was to prove a point that the bodybuilder isn’t as much of a god as he says he is, when a person who hasn’t lifted can train for 6 months (powerlifting training) and almost beat him, and who is considerably smaller. Hopefully, it humbled him to not walk around with his lifting straps.
That still makes me lol, like straight out of a cartoon. What possible gain in your everday life could you get from your lifting straps besides a bunch of people asking you why the fu** do you wear your lifting straps you idiot?
[quote]dzirkelb wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Also, I don’t really understand this thread at all. You train for powerlifting, have been training for this meet specifically for 6 months, and you came up 5 pounds short against a bodybuilder with a bad back who doesn’t even train with barbells. Am I missing something here? Don’t get me wrong, powerlifting’s my thing, and I think your enthusiasm for the sport itself is fantastic, I just don’t understand why you’re comparing your numbers to someone who, based on your description, doesn’t seem to care about his powerlifting total in any capacity. Perhaps your new gym will benefit you a great deal, and put some things in perspective.
As a side note, I see your profile says you’re in Texas. I am as well, what part of Texas are you in?[/quote]
I think the whole deal was to prove a point that the bodybuilder isn’t as much of a god as he says he is, when a person who hasn’t lifted can train for 6 months (powerlifting training) and almost beat him, and who is considerably smaller. Hopefully, it humbled him to not walk around with his lifting straps.
That still makes me lol, like straight out of a cartoon. What possible gain in your everday life could you get from your lifting straps besides a bunch of people asking you why the fu** do you wear your lifting straps you idiot?[/quote]
OP’s been lifting for 2 and a half years, not 6 months. The 6 months was the amount of time he spent training specifically for this meet. He already had somewhat respectable numbers.
I have to wonder why anybody cares about the bodybuilder walking around with straps permanently attached to his wrists. I’ve seen this plenty of times, and I’ve seen well-developed guys do it. What difference does it make? I’ve done it when I haven’t wanted to haul my gym bag around the gym. It’s convenient.
As for the bodybuilder needing an ego check, as you seem to believe, I disagree. Most bodybuilders don’t give a flying fuck about what numbers they can put up in the gym on the big 3. Some do, but it’s rare. The Mighty Stu has pointed out numerous times on this site that he made his best strides towards his bodybuilding goals when he stopped caring how much weight was on the bar. Jay Cutler doesn’t squat above 400 in training. So what? He’s not a powerlifter. He’s still a badass.
This whole thing just seems like everybody wants to hate on the bodybuilder, who I’d be willing to bet looks a shit-ton better than the OP. Everybody has different goals, but we’re all brothers in iron. I see no good reason to laugh at each others differences.
The OP’s words about bodybuilder guy:
"Every day in the break room he flexes in front of the mirror and his gold chains keep getting bigger and bigger.
according to him this will be like “taking candy from a baby”.
I know he is the lifting strap guru. Sometimes he walks around with them on at work!"
I thought this thread was entertaining as heck, and I was rooting for the OP. Not everyone has the mental strength and inner peace of Gandhi.
It is a David vs Goliath situation, and where Goliath is a douche, as pointed out exactly by the post above me. Anyone that walks around checking themselves out in every mirror, in public (in private is fine), and walks around with lifting straps WHILE AT WORK is a douche.
Agreed, most bodybuilders dont’ care what they lift, and they shouldn’t, that’s not their goals But, as a person, sometimes you gotta be knocked down a peg, and this is what the OP was trying to do. Obviously he wasn’t going to be able to gain 50-60 lbs of muscle and be defined like a bodybuilder in 6 months, but one thing he could do is be stronger.
The thing is, we aren’t hating on bodybuilding, we are hating on the specific guy, who happens to be a bodybuilder, BIG difference.
If I saw a guy walking around with straps on his wrist at work, and I think they are teachers, I would just laugh in the guys face, because it obviously doesn’t require lifting straps to lift a 3 lb academic book.
OP forgot to mention that he worked at a barbell factory and the resourceful bodybuilder was just making his job – carrying the product from the assembly line to the shipping crates on the other side of the factory floor – easier by using the tools at his disposal. All of this anger is misplaced.
We are both teachers. We both use to be coaches. If you a teacher you should never have lifting straps at work. Bodybuilders work hard and some look great. This guy has a nice physique but all my co workers were convinced he is also the strongest guy on the planet. He is not. He chickened out of the competition until 3 days before it when I rolled my ankle. The facts are if he trained for powerlifting he would have crushed me. I guess that is why they have weight classes.
One of the main reasons this guy has a bad back is because in between taking tank top selfies at the gym and posting them to facebook he trains only the muscles in the front of the body and not as much on the back. I have offered to help him get his back up to speed but he is not interested in anything that is hard to find in a mirror. It was a great event and I will keep yall posted on future stuff.
As a result of the meet I got reacquainted with some weightlifting people I knew before I was into training. They have taken me under their wing and helped me with technique and programming. The future looks bright.
Final results
(powerlifter , bodybuilder)
Squat(no reps full depth) 315x5 320 x 5
Bench 225x1 315 x 1
Deadlift 345x5 255 x 5
What kind of contest had you repping squats and deadlifts?
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
What kind of contest had you repping squats and deadlifts?
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Agreed. Weird as fuck.
Also what kind of “6’2’’ 240 pounds 10% bodyfat” moves such shitty numbers. Even his bench is garbage for someone that size. I’m very suspect of the numbers provided for him because something doesn’t add up. I know a guy about that size (but a fair bit higher BF) who mostly trains for BBing, but is a little above 500/400/600. While I realize that not everybody will have the same strength, this guy’s numbers are questionable to say the least, unless he had killer injuries preventing him from performing on any lift. If he’s planning on competing he’s going to be in for a rude awakening if he thinks he can skip legs and back all the time and place well.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
What kind of contest had you repping squats and deadlifts?
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Agreed. Weird as fuck.
Also what kind of “6’2’’ 240 pounds 10% bodyfat” moves such shitty numbers. Even his bench is garbage for someone that size. I’m very suspect of the numbers provided for him because something doesn’t add up. I know a guy about that size (but a fair bit higher BF) who mostly trains for BBing, but is a little above 500/400/600. While I realize that not everybody will have the same strength, this guy’s numbers are questionable to say the least, unless he had killer injuries preventing him from performing on any lift. If he’s planning on competing he’s going to be in for a rude awakening if he thinks he can skip legs and back all the time and place well.[/quote]
THANK YOU.
This whole thing reeks of bullshit, and the OP sounds like such a prick. I feel like the OP is exaggerating nearly every detail to make this seem like the previously mentioned David v. Goliath scenario. I don’t buy it. The competition sounds fishy too. Fortunately, there is an easy way for the OP to prove that he competed with this guy in a meet.
OP, what specific meet did you compete in, and what weight classes were you and the bodybuilder in? You’ve already shared the numbers you and the other guy allegedly put up in the meet, so it should be easy to find you guys, even without knowing your names. All I have to do is look for the 240 lb guy with shitty squat and deadlift numbers, lol.
It was a competition they did head to head from what I gather when reading the thread / op’s posts. Regardless, the results are most definitely odd, not in terms of numbers, but in terms of what the hell they did haha.
Those numbers aren’t shitty for the 240 lb guy. Not all ripped dudes are strong. Jay Cutler is a massive human being, but for what he actually does in terms of numbers are not impressive, not impressive at all. That’s not his goal, so it shouldn’t be. Compare him to Eric Lillibridge, about the same size dudes, Cutler is like 4-6% bodyfat, lillibridge probably like 10, and lillibridge just did damn near 2400 in a meet, I bet Cutler could do around 1500.
At 240 with 10% bodyfat, he is looking at around 220 lbs of muscle in his body. When I was down to 275 and 18% bodyfat, those were pretty much my numbers also. That put me at around 220-225 lbs of muscle also. And, I wasn’t training for a powerlifter like I am now. Now I’m like 320 with probably 25% body fat, but my numbers are much, much better. I am a poor example of a comparison, but am a comparison. When I did start training squat and deadlift, they have shot up. Squat has increased about 200 lbs in 6 months, deadlift went up around 100 lbs in the same time. Bench has never been strong for me, went up about 45 lbs in that time. I don’t attribute those gains to hard work and eating a shit ton (it was definitely a part of it), I attribute it to learning how to squat to get the maximum load pushed, learning how to arch on bench, deadlift, well, that is just strength gains as my form still sucks. Point being, if he trained those 3, he would get big numbers, if he doesn’t train em, they will be small numbers, pretty simple logic.
The size of your muscles in correlation with your “rippedness” means jack shit in terms of how strong you are, which is what the OP was trying to prove. It doesnt’ mean that because you are jacked you are weak, far from it, it just simply means that you aren’t automatically strong.
Frankly, if you bodybuild and don’t do squat, deadlifts, or bench in your routine, you simply aren’t going to put up the best numbers you could, and it doesn’t matter, as that’s not your goals. This is obviously what the bodybuilder did in his case, minus bench probably, as that’s a glory muscle that is worked. Again, nothing wrong with that, just is a statement.