First Injection T400 - Pain and Swelling

I’m 36 6”2 210 lbs been feeling sluggish with work the gym kids. Energy levels are not what they used to be. Decided to try test to help keep me going in my personal life and give me the boost I need at the gym and if I like it fulfil that dream of getting on stage. Got talked into a t400 like an idiot. Like a donkey I was attracted to the lower mls per m and the cost savings clearly should have done research into higher concentrations and risks associated with the ba content. If in a medical setting they only jam 250 into an ml wtf was I thinking trying 400 per ml into virgin muscle.

Anyways (200mg e, 200mg d) let it sit in my closet for 8 months before diving in and taking my first shot. Used a 1 1/4 inch 25g into left quad. Read and watched countless videos to identify and hit the right spot. I swabbed the top of the bottle with alchol pad. The injection site as well. Let the alchol dry before administration. I drew the test with one needle and swapped before injection. I slowly injected over about 30 seconds about .8 mls. Went in like butter. I was shocked. No pain didn’t even feel it. Massaged the area for about 30 seconds and went about my day. Hit the gym that night with no problems.

On my way home I started feeling a bit of muscle soreness. Nothing serious. Had a shake. A midnight meal bed. Next morning woke up and there was more pain. Couldn’t bend my leg fully without the muscle feeling like it was being over stretched. Chalked it up to pip. Took a hot bath. A shower. Heating pad. That night I noticed the swelling start around the injection site. And it was tender to touch. At this point I decided to skip leg day. Squatting was extremely uncomfortable yet not unbearable needed a rest day anyways. Next morning woke up and the swelling was considerably worse. The pain went down to my knee I’m assuming some oil leaked out and down my leg Subq causing this. It was slightly warm to touch. No discolouration but noticeable swelling had me wondering if this is more than pip.

That day took some Advil and Tylenol. Was using heating packs but seems to make the swelling worse. Switched to ice to get the swelling by down. Went back and forth between cabbage wraps and ice packs for most of the afternoon. By night I had a slight fever 100 f that ended up going away with some Tylenol. I went to sleep with cabbage wraps around my leg. Swelling is gone from my knee about 6 inches up and is now localized around site.do have some discolouration slight redness around quad. No longer warm to touch. Fever hasn’t come back. But the swelling is still noticeable and no way I could work legs today. Bending my leg feels like my quad is a fully stretched elastic band about to snap.

I realize I made a rookie mistake with the t400 stupid move and I should have stuck with the tried and true test e - give me shit. Roast me. Prob deserve it. I think my pin was solid and sterile. Is this just the solvents from the trash product. Virgin muscle. Pip. Should I see a doc? Infection or hematoma? First timer things? Not sure what my next move is. Prob trashing this t400 got some 250 t e but not sure if it’s a good idea to push on or stop altogether pending results of a doc visit. Any advice would be appreciated.

I am not a big fan of pinning quads, but it sounds to me based on your deseciption that you have tainted gear (not to be Captain Obvious). I would trash it for sure and start over.

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Should I wait it out and hope this goes away or see a doc sooner than later. Today is day 3. Redness just started and swelling is noticeable.

You made two rookie mistakes. The first is the concentration of T400. For the life of me I don’t know why anybody purchases stuff like that. Second, you pinned a quads. Quads IMO can be one of the most painful spots for PIP regardless of concentration and the oil can travel down the muscle (ie gravity).

It will probably go away on its own. I’ve used cold packs and lots of massage when I’ve gotten bad PIP before.

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Personally, I would see a doc but I always error on the safe side when it comes to my health. Pulling for you to get better…those situations suck.

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How long did it take for yours to go away? Did you get considerable swelling? Im only on day 3 maybe im being a pussy idk. But the swelling is pissing me off.

Next stab will be in the vg with a 250 mgml te.

Yeah considering it’s my first time it’s a shitty situation. T400 is fucking trash and prob never pinning quads again. Limping around like an idiot

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I’ve only ever gotten PIP from Test P which stings and swells for a bit. Usually lasts 3-5 days before noticeably getting better.

We had this back in the day, called it SuperTest. Hurt like a bitch every time. I would stick to 250mg/mL and below

Did it cause swelling? How long did pip last?

Update. Was reading more about t400 crashing and crystallizing in muscle. Best way to resolve crystallized calcium deposits in the body is apple cider vinegar. Been chugging that shit and swelling is almost gone. Coincidence? Still trashing that t400