First Cycle

Pharma / TRT
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Hey everyone. Been here for a bit. Almost ready. Lifting pretty seriously since the age of 20, now am 31. Occasional layoffs due to injury, etc… Never competed, do not plan to, unless i one day feel my numbers are good for a powerlifting meet.

I am 5’10, 195. Never have checked BF %, but my abs are pretty visible, forearms and bis pretty vascular. Best lifts: 455 dead, 375 below parallel box squat, 275 bench. My goals are to get stronger, fuller and maybe a lil bit leaner… I do not want to lose much definition, Ill put it that way, first cycle and its summer time and I wanna be lean. Not looking to put on a whole bunch of weight. So here we have it, I have two thoughts for this run:
option 1:
test prop 500 mg per week divided into EOD doses x 8 weeks
weeks 5-8: anavar 40 mg/winstrol 25 mg (combined into one 75 mg pill) class 1/2 synergy- keep it at 4 weeks or less d/t liver enzymes and dont wanna totally wreck my cholesterol values- which are very good btw.

Option 2:
Test Prop pinned EOD at 650(ish) mg per week for 6 weeks
var/winny caps (40/25) weeks 3-6 or 4-6

HCG throughout cycle (need to acquire, will not start until i do so)- need to do some research on dosing, I know theres tons of threads here on tnation which will help me with that. Something like 250 iu 2x per week throughout cycle.

Aromasin 12.5 mg will be run throughout cycle.

PCT is as follows starting 3 days after last pin:
week 1 :clomid 50 mg, nolvadex 20 mg, aromasin 25 mg per day (asin does not interfere with SERM activity)
week 2: clomid 50 mg, nolvadex 20 mg, aromasin 12.5 mg per day
week 3: nolvadex 20 mg, aromasin 12.5 mg per day
week 4: nolvadex 20 mg aromasin 6 (ish) mg per day
week 5: aromasin 6(ish) mg per day.

My thoughts with the 8 week run are that it would give me a good 4 weeks to see how i respond to test and aromasin
My thought on the 6 week run i can bump up the test dosage and possibly recover faster than if i were to run a full 8 weeks.
4000 mg prop on hand.

Will get labs drawn after PCT. T level currently around 650 but below avg free T. High SHBG. Dont have the paper in front of me.
BMP values all within very healthy ranges. BP usually runs around 110/60.

Thanks in advance guys. And shout outs to all the vets who take the time to educate newbs like myself.

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disclaimer: this proposed cycle is based on fantasy role play… by no means would I or do I intend to acquire or possess any illegal substances. :slight_smile:

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Why do you think you need to deviate from the standard first cycle protocol of 500 mg/week?

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well, i dont really think that. My original plan was to run 500 for 6 weeks and then throw in the var winnies for the last 3 or 4 weeks to tighten up the gains a bit. Stumbled across another bottle of prop (in my role playing adventure video game of course)… So I figured I could run 8 weeks at 500 mg, the last four including the orals.

However, I was contemplating running a 6 weeker, because it might be an easier recovery than an 8 weeker. Who knows, maybe it won’t be. And if i use hcg it probably does not make any difference. 500 would probably be easier for me to manage side wise. 500 for 8 probably would be better i presume.

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You should recover just fine from an eight week cycle, especially considering you will be using HCG.

Pin Test P every day! You could even throw in some Mast P at 50 mg/day but probably overkill for your first cycle.

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Sounds like you’ve got a pretty good game plan going. I was just asking out of curiosity.

Man your WoW avatar is about to blow up!

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Thanks guys. Much appreciated. Its kinda funny thinking back on the ideas I had for my first cycle. I was afraid of test thinking if I avoided injectables I would minimize suppression. Then it became clear after a while, even though i had been reading… once I introduce foreign exogenous hormones into my body, my test will be suppressed, and that is the hormone our bodies are designed to run off of! I am glad I waited until now to use the gear.

BTW seal clubber… In my role playing video game I did come across some mast E from a gypsy. I was thinking that would not be necessary for this run, esp with the dht derived orals. Was thinking abt saving for second hypothetical cycle, with some test e. Something like test e/ mast e/ and mayb some dbol at the beginning, or frontloaded with preworkout dbol thrown in the mix here and there. Thanks again.

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[quote]aaron777 wrote:
Thanks guys. Much appreciated. Its kinda funny thinking back on the ideas I had for my first cycle. I was afraid of test thinking if I avoided injectables I would minimize suppression. Then it became clear after a while, even though i had been reading… once I introduce foreign exogenous hormones into my body, my test will be suppressed, and that is the hormone our bodies are designed to run off of! I am glad I waited until now to use the gear.

BTW seal clubber… In my role playing video game I did come across some mast E from a gypsy. I was thinking that would not be necessary for this run, esp with the dht derived orals. Was thinking abt saving for second hypothetical cycle, with some test e. Something like test e/ mast e/ and mayb some dbol at the beginning, or frontloaded with preworkout dbol thrown in the mix here and there. Thanks again. [/quote]

Never by anything, hypothetically or oterwise from a gypo. LOL

Good luck!

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Thanks guys. Couple quick changes then ill let this thread go to the archives lol.

  1. after some reading, seems like pinning ED would keep me a lil more stable.
  2. Figured id divide my aromasins into thirds instead of halves. So gonna start with roughly a third of a 25 mg asin per day (8.3333333333333 mg LOL). Have nolva on hand and can always up the dose. Dont wanna be too dry as I already have some shoulder, elbow, knee, hip, and back issues LOl. So if i could retain just a tad more water that might be beneficial.
    HCG here… provigil hcg from india. Read up on it and saw a pic looks gtg. Vials and bac water should arrive tomorrow.
    Frontloaded 150 mg prop today. 70 mg per day from here on out. Will rotate shoulders and glutes. First cycle may as well pin ED right? LOL
    Im thinkin 250 ius twice per week will be cool with the hcg, then 750 ius the last couple weeks to use up the 5000 iu’s. Then start pct.
    My friend started today, so I figured I may as well too LOl. Hes gonna run npp 300 mg per week with 350 test per week for eight weeks as a first cycle with caber, ai, and nolva pct.
    Thanks again guys. Tnation rocks!
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K im done after this one. Just wanted to say that PROP pain is REAL. LOL… trained deads and glutes/hams after 150 mg inject… I am walking with a slight limp now LOL. Did tweak my back a lil on deads today cause some unwanted female onlooker kept asking how much weight is that… is that healthy, is that healthy??? wanted to tell her to shut the hell up… think she ruined my focus.

Anyways the bright side is the prop pain is definitely overpowering the back issue, which seems to be better now. Popped 25 mg dbol after and eating /drinking alot… hoping the dbol increases the healing process, as I read that it can do so.

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hi guys im going to be doing my first 10 week course test-e at 500mg(x2@250mg Sunday Thursday) with 40mg d-bol (first 4 weeks) so will run both weeks1-4 then just test-e for the last 6weeks.i have nolva on hand for pct run at 100/40/20/20.do anyone have any tips if this is wrong
age 31
height 5.8
weight 11st.

was thinking of starting bk up after my 2week break after last jab so would miss pct this time and just go bk to the start after the 2week break would that be ok???