Hey guys I’m new here and this is my first post so forgive me if it’s in the wrong category or something stupid.
So here’s what’s going on. It’s my first cycle and I started running 250mg twice aweek test E and 300mg/week deca. I’m currently on my 8th pin and my pip has gone down to little to nothing, last pin I had no pip couldn’t even tell it happened. However after my second pin I started getting test flu (lethargy, headache, mild sore throat) 12-24 hour after the pin and it would last for 24-48 hours. (If it lasted over 24hrs symptoms would significantly decrease for the remainder) I get this every pin now and it really sucks… the headache and tiredness is quite bad.
So after the 5th pin I dropped my dose to 200mg twice a week of test e and I’m still getting it. My questions are as follows:
What can I do to help ease the test flu?
Should it stop happening soon?
Will heating the oil before the pin help? And if so how hot?
Should I try changing esters and if that doesn’t work change brands?
Thank you!
For a first cycle why are you running 550mg of gear/ week. It’s excessive, secondly why use more than one compound on a first cycle, it could easily be the nandrolone causing these sides, youll now never know. How is your blood pressure, resting heart rate? I don’t take nandrolone because I find it makes me feel strange after injection, makes me slightly short of breath, very minor effect but still enough for me to notice and go like “nope” even if it helps with joint pain, fuck that.
If you only feel ill post pin it’s possible your gear isn’t adequately sterilized, and the sickness is your body fighting off infection.
Thanks for the replies! I don’t think it’s the deca as I get it after every shot. The reason I’m running deca on top of the test is a got it all free from a friend thats competing in this year’s Popeyes in Vancouver canada. So I figured it wouldn’t hurt as well as I’ve always been a skinny guy and have a hard time eating enough to gain wheight and I was hoping that the deca would give me an appetite boost.
That being said you guys really think it could be the deca?
Keep in ming I have dropped the test from 500mg a week to 400mg a week and am still feeling like shit for 1 or 2 days after a shot.
My resting heart rate is a little up but not excessive. My blood pressure is good as well. Tested last week and I completely forgot the number but I’ll test again tomorrow.
I’m assuming you are still doing 150mg x 2 /wk of deca? Why wouldn’t you think it was that?
Pretty easy to test out just don’t do the deca next injection.
Did you do any blood work before jumping into your first cycle? Hrdlvn gave you the best advice. Dont inject both and process of elimination will tell you all you need to know.
No blood work. I live an hour away from the nearest clinic not that that’s a good excuse but that’s why I haven’t done it. And ya I’m pretty sure it’s the test considering I do one 300mg shot of deca per week and 2 200mg shots of test a week and I get sick every shot
Some people say that it’s the short ester of test that causes it and others say it’s the B.A. content. So I was thinking I would try to heat it up to see if I can lessen the amount of B.A… if I were to do that how hot should I get it? Put it in shallow boiling water for a bit?
Thanks again for the help guys I really appreciate you guys taking the time.
All that being said I’m not against cutting out the deca completely as I have done as a decent amount of homework and my original plan was 500mg of test a week plus arimidex then clomid for pct but because I got the deca free I figured id throw it in but it’s definetly not a bad idea to take it out completely. Tomorrow is my next shot so I will take my blood pressure and try to boil the B.A. out of the test and see how it goes
Blood pressure is 147 over 86 so not good but not dangerous. Last shot I got sick for 4 days but the 3rd and 4th wereuch better than the first 2. So I’m citing the deca out and cutting me test dose done to 350mg a week and going to see how it goes. Hopefully I’ll be okay and if I am I’m going to try to up the dose to 400-500mg. Thank to the advise everyone
If you have not had high blood pressure issues in the past your high pressure now could be your blood has gotten too thick. HCT can really go up on some guys running high T injections. When was the last time you donated blood? If your answer is 3month to never you might consider donating a pint at your local blood bank its free. Then test your blood pressure again if it is normal then you know your blood got too thick. If the pressures the same you’ve done no harm by donating.