Hello Folks, i’m new here. I hope to give/find good informations.
My problem is the following.
I’ve started a steroids cycle of 9 weeks using 250mg/wk testosterone enanthate plus Nandrolone decanoate 250mg/wk; i started just with test alone in the first 2 weeks and after added Nandrolone in the 3th week.
After doing the 250mg/wk Nandrolone injection, the next day i’ve felt pretty anxious and warm, much tired ( seems to be without energy ) and similar in lethargic state. I felt pretty agitated with a blood pressure above 135/90. I don’t know if this is connected to Nandrolone or the sum of the two steroids dosages; i also felt a bit acid gastric reflux increasing ( even i suffer it since a lot of years ). For what i know, as the blood test i did the last year, all my base parameters were good and within normal ranges.
Did you ever experienced similar effects ? And if so, how Nandrolone decanoate could be connected with this ( using just test, never felt this effects… ) ?
Thank you.
David.
So you are 1 day in on the deca and have these side effects? Are you an overly paranoid individual? To me, it sounds like you are very nervous about using aas in the first place and could be over thinking things and freaking yourself out causing anxiety issues, could this be the case or maybe i’m way off?
That’s a very low dose of deca for 1, and to have these affects from it only after hours of first injection I think are very unlikely
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
So you are 1 day in on the deca and have these side effects? Are you an overly paranoid individual? To me, it sounds like you are very nervous about using aas in the first place and could be over thinking things and freaking yourself out causing anxiety issues, could this be the case or maybe i’m way off?
That’s a very low dose of deca for 1, and to have these affects from it only after hours of first injection I think are very unlikely [/quote]
Thank you eatliftsleep.
I don’t exclude your consideration, it could be possible. But i’ve supposed a unbalance of androgens/estrogen ratio. Nandrolone reach a max concentration peak level within 2 days and steadily goes lower to a middle level from 3-4 day forward. This could have a kind of impacted creating some unbalance as i told above. This is just a my assumption. It has a progestinic activity too…
I wonder if someone never experienced something of similar… i feel “dried” as opposite with just test alone ( i felt a leon ! ).
What are your stats and your goals you want to reach with this cycle?
Is this your first cycle? If so you have no business using something as harsh as deca
For your first cycle its best to stick to simply test.
Get a feel of it see how your body reacts to it.
I think your problem lies within poor cycle planning.
These two are long estered drugs and deca is known for shutting you down hard.
Test enanthate takes about 3 weeks to get full effect and probably the deca shut you down which probably explains why your feeling energyless and lethargic. I dont know much about deca but it might be the cause of your blood pressure been high. Test can cause elevated blood presure but your not using a crazy doze of either compound
I would never touch deca tough, its a very powerfull drug with some serrious side effects with it. Some guys claim they had erectile dysfuntion and no sex drive for well over a year after discontinuoing use (its an illegal drug so as far as i know, there arent any official studies on it. Some people think its the remaining metabolites that can keep you shut down).
I dont know any guys that are willing to take that risk, if you are i wish you best of luck.
I am of course taking it for granted your training, recovery (sleep) and diet are on point.
Sleep and diet are the most important while on cycle, if these 2 are in check any type of training will work
Hope this helps. I know its expensive, but have a blood test done. If you dont know what to look for (you should), show it to your doctor and explain how you feel. If you dont have ensurance, your going to have a bad time… but whats more important to you? Your muscles or your health.
I believe half life of deca is something like 14 days… I serioisly doubt what you are experiencing is from the deca, if its deca. but if you want to believe it is from the deca, go ahead. I could be wrong.
Thank you to all. Yes, this is my first cycle.
I will abort Deca at all. I will take just Test Enan.
I don’t think a single 250mg Deca injection will alter so much all my cycle, as i won’t use it anymore.
Anyway, i will do a blood test ( in Italy is not so expensive ). Do you think i can continue Test Enan alone ( 250mg/wk ) even i abort definitively Deca ?
Thank you guys.
Bump the test up to 500Mg a week, inject 250Mg every 3.5 days.
Ok. I’ve heard to use HCG 250ui every 3.5 days too on cycle to keep tests active. But several doctors recommend to do not overcome 15 days of total use of HCG cause desensitization of LH receptors.
There are a lot of opinions it about… and it seems hard what believe…
Just blast it a week prior to pct, however, i’m sure a doctor would tell you not to use testosterone at such dosages as well.