So, 100mg drol, 50mg winny… how many mg for the primo?
It’s funny how most people said that I’m stupid to use two orals at the same time… now we’re talking about three! ;o)
you already using drol its not like you can get more liver toxic lol
The fact that it’s only two weeks on at a time is one thing… but wouldn’t the three of these be overkill? Clearly it will cost more but money isn’t an issue for me. I’m looking for the best possible stack I can do with my ‘pussy’ restrictions ;o)
[quote]vin_mancini wrote:
The fact that it’s only two weeks on at a time is one thing… but wouldn’t the three of these be overkill? Clearly it will cost more but money isn’t an issue for me. I’m looking for the best possible stack I can do with my ‘pussy’ restrictions ;o)[/quote]
Nope theyd be awesome! if you can find them and afford them then hell ya get them!
If I can just find out how much Primo I’d need to take then I’ll definitely consider giving the above cycle a chance and will post my results. God, the thought of it at this point is almost scary. I mean, I’ve tried all kinds of supplements during the years and all of them were a complete waste (other than Creatine). But still, even Creatine’s gains are minimal at best.
To know that I’ll be putting something in my body which is actually going to make me grow… wow. It’s like you get used to taking shit and know it’s not going to work and now you’re finally given something that WILL work. I’m sure all of you felt something like this when you started out.
All I need now are the Primo mg’s, hope that the source I’ve pretty much decided upon comes through, and that will be that! I can’t wait to post my results here.
if i were to run var or primo id run the var at 75-100 mg ED and the primo at 200mg ED be prepared as this will make you lose weight…because of yoru wallet getting lighter
[quote]vin_mancini wrote:
If I can just find out how much Primo I’d need to take then I’ll definitely consider giving the above cycle a chance and will post my results. God, the thought of it at this point is almost scary. I mean, I’ve tried all kinds of supplements during the years and all of them were a complete waste (other than Creatine). But still, even Creatine’s gains are minimal at best.
To know that I’ll be putting something in my body which is actually going to make me grow… wow. It’s like you get used to taking shit and know it’s not going to work and now you’re finally given something that WILL work. I’m sure all of you felt something like this when you started out.
All I need now are the Primo mg’s, hope that the source I’ve pretty much decided upon comes through, and that will be that! I can’t wait to post my results here.[/quote]
Well, I would just do the two for your first go round personally. Remember that two weeks is as short as it gets with AAS pretty much. That's part of the reason one can use a higher end dose of said AAS. Toxicity is more time related than dose related when it comes to orals I believe. There isn't enough time to cause too much liver damage. Of course you could prove me wrong if you ingest a shitload of several, but you see what I mean.
Most people need at least 80mg a day of Primo to get a noticeable effect from it. Oral strictly. I've used it at 60mg/day with mild results and absolutely zero sides as is the norm with primo. 100mg/day would be a more noticeable amount to obtain some amount of lean mass from.
The two first mentioned are putting you at 1050mg/week right there. Mind you a good deal of that is going to be processed by the liver, thus the need for a higher dose than with an injec. Now if you added 100mg/day of primo, you would then be at 1750mg/week. While pretty high, certainly doable for a short duration I would think, especially since 700 of that is a very mildly liver toxic oral, aka primo. I'm no expert though, and you are new at this. So you might want to go with just the two drol/win, or a different classI/II like Bushy was alluding to for your first rodeo.
You need to hear from Bushy before making any further decisions I would say. That's my advice to you. Try a pm to him as he gets busy and might not see this for a bit. Don't get too excited or set in your decision until you have heard a bit more about things, while I was saying the primo could be added in my case, I might have some reservations about recommending it to you as I don't know how your body reacts to these compounds. Chances are it would be fine, but I'm just being honest with you and want you to talk to Bushy first. He could have a better plan for your first run.
good luck,
ToneBone
Thanks Bushy, greatly appreciated. I think I’ll go with this. Obviously it’s going to take a bit of time for me to procure this (shipping times) but I’ll definitely post my progress. I want to thank all of you for taking the time to answer my quesions instead of just blowing me off like some people in other forums did. Hats off to you guys!
Good for you Vin.
It is very rare that someone gets an ‘ultimate cycle’ laid out for them.
If you decide to progress and want to have a go at injectables PM me for advice if you wish, I had similar fears that I overcame very quickly, I will be happy to give you help on over coming your phobia.
Thanks electric,
I don’t think this thread has what it takes to be made a sticky, but if there was some way for noobs to read this post before asking questions I’m sure it would help them out alot. Most of them, like myself, probably want to start with the oral route and the information for orals is minimal from what I was able to find. Everything is laid out very clearly here. Anyway, I’ll probably be ordering today. Thanks a million guys!
Well, I’m able to find 50mg Anadrol and 50mg Winnie, but the anavar only comes in 10mg tabs. If I did 4 cycles of 2 weeks on and 3 weeks off I’d need to take 10 tabs a day, 140 tabs per cycle, or 560 tabs for the whole thing which would work out to about $650 compared to roughly $200 for the Anadrol and the winnie combined! That’s a big pill to swallow (no pun intended!). So $200 for anadrol and winnie or $850 if I add anavar… .yikes! Is it really worth it?
[quote]vin_mancini wrote:
Well, I’m able to find 50mg Anadrol and 50mg Winnie, but the anavar only comes in 10mg tabs. If I did 4 cycles of 2 weeks on and 3 weeks off I’d need to take 10 tabs a day, 140 tabs per cycle, or 560 tabs for the whole thing which would work out to about $650 compared to roughly $200 for the Anadrol and the winnie combined! That’s a big pill to swallow (no pun intended!). So $200 for anadrol and winnie or $850 if I add anavar… .yikes! Is it really worth it?[/quote]
This is what I was talking about. Both Anavar and Primo are very, very expensive unless you get a hold of a UGL source or a lucky break. The old feline friend of ours called R…icat, had some better pricing, but he’s no longer around unfortunately.
ToneBone
Well, not wanting to piss Bushy off by any means, but I’ll probably just start off with the Winnie and the Anadrol like Game had originally suggested and hope for the best. It will also give me a chance to test out my online source without having to lose too much dough all at once. I’ll keep you posted.
yup i stole that one directly from the above two posters lol tone for recording his rounds with it and bushy because well… you guys should know that already lol
Had a need to ressurect this thread with another question…
As decided, I’ll be taking 100mg Anadrol with 50mg Winnie ed in a 2 weeks on, 3 weeks off type of cycle. I would also very much like to drop my bodyfat down as it’s probably in the high teens right now. Would there be any benefit to adding Clenbuterol to my cycle or will the cycle alone have some decent fat loss effects?
do some extensive research on clen and see if you really wanna use it. IMO you’d be just as good to go with an ECA stack or even HOT-ROX for that matter. just my 2 cents
From what I’ve read it’s excellent at burning fat and I know that it shouldn’t be taken for longer than six weeks at a time since it works by elevating the body temperature. I just haven’t found anything that states whether or not it would work well with anadrol or winnie…
I know what HOT-ROX are (have seen mixed results on the net)… will have to figure out what eca is…
ephedrine, caffeine, and Aspirin.
Haha… I had edited my post above to state that I had figured it out on my own… but the edit didn’t take :oP
I’ll still to bulking up as much as possible for now (as per your pm) and worry about cutting later on.