First Cycle, Need Some Insight

Pharma
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im going on vacation to las vegas in about 3 and a half months and my goal is too look my best as possible (lose as much BF% while gaining as much muscle as possible)

im 21 and o naturelle for now
16%~ BF
5’7
181 lbs
been training sense 14 to 16 at home
solid training at the gym sense 16 to current
goal from cycle: gain 25 lbs and become 10-12%BF, however im gonna be realistic and expect anywhere from 15-20 lbs gain.

the cycles im debaiting on is as follows

Cycle A
Week 1-4: Cypionate 500mg/week, deca 400mg/week, wintrol 100mg/EOD, a-dex .25mg/EOD or ED (forgot what i was told)

Week 4-8: Cypionate 500mg/week, deca 400mg/week, a-dex .25mg/EOD or ED

Week 8-12: Cypionate 500mg/week, deca 400mg/week, wintrol 50mg/EOD, a-dex .25mg/EOD or ED

Week 12-14: off

Week 14-17: nolva dex for pct

i would be spliting my cyp shots into 2 per week at 250mg.

this was the cycle i had planned, but after some thought im not so sure it will be too good. the thing about this cycle is i havnt done enough research (hate to say it) on how well cypionate will stack with deca/winstrol. im also worried that winstrol + a-dex might be overkill on my joints. im also concerned that the deca ratio too the test might be too high?

Cycle B

Week 1-8: Propionate 400mg/week, deca 400mg/week, winstrol 100mg/EOD

week 8-10: off

week 10-13: Nolvadex for pct

prop will be split into 3 shots EOD 2x 150 and 1x 100

im starting to lean more towards this cycle because it seems like the better conidate to give me the results i want (more muscle, less BF) but im unsure if i will need to cycle prop with a-dex, let me know about this one.

daily diet:
4-5k cals
400-500 clean carbs
1.5g-2g of protein per body pound

following this diet, with 3-5 days of non-intensive interval cardio: jog 2 min, walk 1 min; 30 min total, is what i will be doing. if you got better suggestions for putting alot of lean muscle while losing as much BF let me know.

another thing is i also have some albuterol, and i was thinking maybe i should try to cut a lil now (against my better judgement, cutting before bulking is useless imo) take 2 weeks on albuterol and as soon as im done hit up my cycle. i really want to lose as much BF as possible for when i hit up vegas, but chances are i wont end up taking the albuterol for a long time. (most likly going to take it a good few weeks after my PCT is done)

so if anyone could tell me which cycle i should take, or perhaps modify the gear i already have to make a better cycle please let me know.

thx for your time,
juicy.

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you want a 4-6% drop in bodyfat, with 15-20 pounds of added mass…i think your goals are unrealistic, and your outlined cycles are poorly planned, especially option B

keep your cycle simple (test only, or test stacked with one other compound), and modify your goals…

and for God sakes…don’t post retarded shit like in the last paragraph…

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thx for 2 cents bro i will go back to the drawing boards. if anyone else can help a brother out it will be much appriciated.

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o ye i really need to know where to find some 20 or 10 ml multi dose vials because my gear comes in sachets. i went to the pharmicist and she showed me a vial u urinate in… i left empty handedly.

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I’d say run some enanthate,deca,and dbol then for the last 4-6 weeks add in some winstrol and cut those calories

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I will be running pretty much the same thing as ur cycle A, if u can, put up some stats every couple weeks to let us know how it is working for u.

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if i do decide to do a 12 week cycle u guys recomend doing wintrol 100mg/EOD first 4, break from it for 4 weeks, then it up again but at 50mg/EOD for the last 4 weeks? or to stick with it the whole 12 weeks at 50mg/EOD?

i only have 40ml of winny 50mg/ml

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the enanthete cycle sounds sweet but the enanthete from my sources are suposibly dirty… and as for orals im going to avoid them for now.

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yea well since you wanted to gain some muscle and lose fat i though u could run the dbol for 4 weeks the deca and test for 10 then add winny in towards the end to shred you up a bit but its understandable not to want to take orals i try not to either

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im a little confused on how much arimidex i should be cycling in with my cycle. assuming i do something along the lines as cycle A should i be cycling adex with it at .25/ed, .25/EOD, .50/ED, or .50/EOD??? i see many saying to cycle adex differently so im really unsure. i really dont want the bloated look and im willing to sacrifice some gains, so assuming i do cycle A how much adex should i be cycling???

thx,
juicy.

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.25 mg of Adex ED should suffice. Although it all depends on the person and the compounds used.
I was just using .25 but have recently upped that to .5 ED as some undesireable symptons started to arise.
See Ya

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based off the drugs you posted, this is what i would suggest:

Deca: 400mg/Week 1-9
Test Cyp: 500mg/Week 1-10
Winny: 50mg/day Weeks 7-11
Nolva: 20mg/day Weeks 12-14

Also, HOT-ROX Extreme and Rez-V throughout, and add in Alpha Male at Week 12. Adjust diet to 2 g of protein/bdwt and 1 gram of carbs/bdwt.

Hope that helps…

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deca needs to be run longer than 9 weeks i would suggest, i usually run it 12

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Nice and simple for ya here man!!!

1st is this your first cycle or what??

TEST-E 400mg weekly 1-10
Equipoise 400mgweekly 1-14

that ota get you right into your time to go to vegas, i would suggest doing EQ no less than 12 weeks tho!
again is this your 1st cycle man… because if so your receptors are fresh and this above cycle that i stated would blow you apart nicely!!!

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what are, what do they do, and where do i get HOT-ROX Extreme and Rez-V?

so running the winstrol for the last 4 weeks be better then running it during the first 4 & last 4?

also for the suggestion of test-e and EQ sounds pretty bad ass but unfortunatly i dont have that gear right now and to get it id have to order and who knows how long that will take.

oh yeah, it will be my 1st cycle.

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test and deca need to be run at 5:3 ratio
soo 500 test and 300 deca or
750 test and 450 deca

make sure u do this

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JB,
i agree, but i don’t think he’s got time if he wants to have PCT done before he gets to Vegas (with what i suggested he would finish PCT right when he left).

Juicy,

HOT-ROX and REZ-V are suppliments. click on the STORE link to veiw them…

as far as the winny…you said you had 40ml, which equates to 40 days, i.e. 5.7 weeks. so yeah, i think it would be better to use it at the end…that way you could harden up, and it would work along with the test and deca that’s built up in your systm.

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thx guys u been more then helpful, my cycle will be like this

week 1-7:
cyp 500mg/week
deca 300mg/week

week 8-12
cyp 500mg/week
deca 300mg/week
winstrol 50mg/ED

hmmm im debating if i should throw in the albuterol for weeks 11-12 let me know your input on how bad an idea that is.

thx,
juicy.