First Cycle Log

Pharma / TRT
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Just got some bloodz back. Iron is very low, saturated ferratin is very low. Haemaglobon has gone from nearly the top of ref range to near the cutoff point, RBC count has dropped but not significantly so, mcv and mchc is low, bicarbonate is high, hints at an iron deficiency anaemia. I had iron deficiency anaemia as a baby for no reason, however this time the reason likely stems from the fact that I’ve been bleeding rectally for about 6mths now (in stool), sorry for graphic detail just posting my observations. I didn’t think it’d actually cause a problem, thought it was just a hemmeroid and would go away… Guess I gotta get that checked out.

I’m not severely anaemic (although my iron is absolutely trash, it’s 5 on a scale of 10-30, Ferratin is 10 on a scale of 20-300 transferrin saturation is 6 percent). I don’t think it is the cause of my random episodes of tachycardia, however it would explain a lot of the issues I’ve been having (dizziness, fatigue, palpitations etc)

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Hapyy to see you are still with is. What is the plan to correct the anemia?

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Take iron supplements (however I eat plenty of red meat), what really needs to be addressed is the rectal bleeding, prolonged blood loss = iron deficiency as iron stores become depleted when the body tries to compensate the blood loss by making more red blood cells. I’ll update soon

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Okay. We will be waiting for an update.

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Going to be seeing a rectal suregon… Probably should’ve gotten this checked out sooner in case its something more sinister… I doubt it though.

Taking iron + vit C (increases absorbtion of iron)

Got a script for a beta blocker (not specifying which one), for fast heart rate. However not taking it until my 24hr halter moniters comes off. Goodbye any shred of glucose tolerance I ever had lol.

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I think that would be a good idea. Especially If the bleeding is severe enough to cause anemia.

I would only take the beta blockers on an as needed basis, unless you like living in slow mo.

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Well Id benefit from them every day, I seem to have orthostatic intolerance. Good news is that for orthostatic intolerance, very low doses (20mg of propranolol/day) appears to be effective, thus reducing the chance of adverse effects (not taking propranolol either, I’m taking one of the newer, less harsh ones)

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Soooo, on the low dose of a select beta blocker of which I’m not specifying, the fast heart rate upon standing (and in general), has disappeared. I also stopped getting what I believe we’re premature ventricular contractions. I feel normal again, my BP hasn’t dropped (due to the dose being so low). I believe it’s possible I have some form of autonomic dysfunction (the doc thinks I do too). I’m going back to gym today (properly, like training really hard), if all is good then I’m happy again, if the session goes bad and I faint or die or something then unreal24278 will be unhappy

I have enough test prescribed to me to use a little extra, say 200-225mg/wk, I need to make sure nothings wrong with my heart before I even think of doing anything though, awaiting results from my halter moniter.

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Dude:

You should probably not be on a cycle with all of this other shit going on.

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I’m not on a cycle, nor am I thinking of doing one anytime soon until I am sure I have a bill of clean health. I’m merely stating I have enough test to run one if I get a bill of clean health. Currently just on TRT, nothing else. I can see how the original post could’ve been misinterpreted, I’ve since fixed it up, either way I wouldn’t be running a “cycle” even if I had a clean bill of health for at least another 3-4 months. I did want to up my TRT dose to 200mg/wk though, because I feel very good on it, still though, need a clean bill of health… Althooouuuuuggghhh I might not ever need to cycle again regardless as I’ve found a few places that, if I have a semi clean bill of health (once again this will be related to the results I get tommorow and some other stuff I’ll know in about a month or so) I can get peptides and stuff legitimately prescribed to me with monitering (which would be rather irresponsible of me to pursue… But… Nope I have nothing to justify that)

There’s a decent chance I’ll never be able to use anything again, I don’t believe my health issues were caused by the little amount of AAS I used for a short period of time though, literature doesn’t back it up (time exposed to AAS less than 20 weeks, dose never escalated over 250mg/wk) I believe I’m just unlucky.

Most likely scenario here is some type of sympathetic nervous system dysfunction (think POTS), or an abnormal electrical pathway (Wolff Parkinson’s white syndrome or something), pots isn’t serious, WPWS is and would probably require cardiac ablation… Which has the potential to cause another set of complications

I actually find out tommorow if there’s anything wrong, how serious the issue may be and whatnot, so stay tuned @The_Myth

To be honest as time goes by I’m becoming slightly less concerned about my health status, I think regardless of what I do I’ll probably end up biting the dust at a young age, this statement could be considered a cop out of sorts or a way of me justifying me doing stupid, irresponsible shit, however considering I don’t tend to do stupid irresponsible shit I’d say it’s just what I think, and so far I’ve been fairly right, things do seem to go wrong alot of the time. At least I don’t have cancer or something terminal though, so I can keep my head up about that.

The nervous system dysfunction theory pans out the most though, as some of my chronic pain (some, not all) is related to nervous system dysfunction, with certain pathways (or so I’ve been told) being overstimulated and others understimulated. The anaemia would also exacerbate a fast heart rate, as would my hypotension (which beta blockers would also exacerbate… But they slow down HR so catch 22 there), and anxiety can fuck with HR

On a side note, when I saw you’re username “the myth” I thought you were Lee Priest and I was like “holy shit that’s Lee Priest” so I clicked on you’re profile and it says in the description you’re from/ in NY so you aren’t Lee Priest BUT it was nonetheless interesting as I’m going to be in NY in a few days, then I’ll be derpling all over the place for a few weeks.

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@unreal24278 your anxiety issues probably stem from being on the spectrum. The two tend to go hand-in-hand, unfortunately.

I’m wondering if some of your heart symptoms might be down to anxiety or panic attacks.

I’ve heard that there’s medical evidence that 300 mg per week of testosterone is safe over a six month period, and that 600 mg possibly is too, so I don’t think that your experimentation will have caused any lasting damage. But I would agree that getting your issues sorted before trying anything else makes sense.

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Yes there’s a few studies showing testosterone at the dose ranges of 3-600mg/wk for 20 weeks is relatively safe and that 2-250mg/wk is safe for 1 year +, there’s also data showing nandrolone can be run at 600mg/wk for 10 wks without any major adverse complications. Same can be said for oxandrolone (20mg/day for a prolonged period of time, say 6-12mths)

As to anxiety and heart issues, the anxiety definately makes it worse than it is (and the panic attacks make is 10x worse), but there’s still an issue at stake even if the anxiety was removed.

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@The_Myth got the results back, everything normal, no structural or electrical abnormalities detected. Nor was a single PVC or PAC detected, so probably anxiety or something.

However what was abnormal was my max HR (on a day with no exercise), 175BPM (from sitting to standing) looks like POTS (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) a type of autonomic dysfunction. Since starting the beta blocker my max HR standing up doesn’t push 100 anymore. Minimum HR was 46, probably because I’m very well conditioned.

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Well shit, I went to purchase a nice suit for an upcoming wedding I’m going to be at and I can’t get clothes to fit me anymore. My shoulders are too wide across and my chest is too big, therefore the suits that fit me have sleeves that go below my hands, I think they’re for tall people, so I had to go a size too small AND with that size that’s too small I still have to get the sleeves tailored, and I need to get the waist tailored smaller. For pants I also need to get them shortened.

I got a mayham shirt tho (the band) so that’s cool, just shouldn’t wear it around my modern orthodox family. (Black metal)… Or anyone religious for that matter

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@ChickenLittle
@charlie12

This is my aunt’s recipie, I just called her for it. This is THE malva pudding recipie, it’s similar, but with different ratios, because apparently all malva pudding isn’t created equal (keep in mind this will create a SMALL batch)

1 cup brown sugar (200g)
2 eggs
1 tablespoon of apricot jam
1 and 1/4 cups of flour (150g)
1 teaspoon of baking soda
Pinch of salt
1 and 1/4 tablespoons of butter
100ml of milk

Says to cook for 45 mins (this malva pudding, I’ve had it before is significantly more burnt in texture, you don’t have to cook it this long, but it is the best malva pudding I’ve ever had)

For the sauce you can use the previous recipie or mix cream (instead of evaporated milk), boiling water, sugar (butter) and a pinch of vanilla essence (vanilla essence is optional, but it adds flavour). The method of making the sauce doesn’t really matter, the cream sauce is thicker, that’s about it.

the previous recipie… Its still nice malva pudding but it isn’t THIS malva pudding. I should’ve just used my aunt’s recipie in the beginning… But I didn’t have the recipie, now I do (had to make a call to get it). Everyone who knows how to make malva pudding will give you a different recipie as many people seem to make it differently with different ingredients and ratios. I’ve had quite a few malva puddings throughout my lifetime, from different people, from myself when I was much younger (I used to bake random things when I was a kid, sometimes I still make random things like curry or shortbread), and from various resteraunts in South Africa and THIS malva pudding is THE malva pudding that I always go on about… It’s so great

@flipcollar use this malva pudding recipie.

I guess it depends though, some people might like the first recipie, others might prefer the one I just posted. In my personal preferance, from like the 6 different recipies I’ve tried the one above is my favorite

Edit: two members of my immidiate family actually really like the recipie I used, I just prefer the one posted here, use either.

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@unreal24278 welcome to the world of custom suits. I live here too :slight_smile:

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Yea and tailoring suits (done by a good tailor) isn’t exactly cheap either… And dress shirts…

It’s like 50 bucks here JUST to shorten the sleeves!

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The worst thing is when your tailored suit no longer fits properly. I got a nice one some years ago, and it’s a bit big these days. :frowning:

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This makes more sense. We used the 8 cans of evaporated milk as you said. 4 for pudding. 4 for sauce. :astonished:.

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I’m sorry you had to go thru so much trouble. But thank you for the recipe! I really couldn’t wrap my mind around the 8 cans of milk. We all know I’m not very smart :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: