toots27mkc wrote:
I’ve only been training for 2 years, but at a very high intensity and I train almost every day, quite often twice a day. For a year or 2 before I started weightlifting, I was only doing bodyweight exercises and cycling. Once I hit the iron, I never went back.
I feel like I’m just starting learn how to build muscle. Lately I’ve been eating a 2000 calorie breakfast consisting of:
1/2 loaf Manna Bread(sprouted whole grain) with CLA butter
stir fry: onions, red peppers, 4-8 oz grass fed steak, broccoli or kale sauteed in extra-virgin coconut oil with spices and salt
smoothie: 2-3 oranges, 1/2 cup hempseed, 1/4 cup cacao beans, 2 raw free range eggs, shitload of kale or spinach
with breakfast I may also drink white or green tea and take rhodiola and curcumin 500
The main reason I started this thread was to get an idea of whether or not I should enter this amateur BB show I saw posted at the gym I go to. I would also like to talk about my diet and training on this thread for the purpose of giving and receiving advice. I also need an ego check because my gym is full of dumbass clowns who do stupid bullshit.
[quote]toots27mkc wrote:
I’ve only been training for 2 years, but at a very high intensity and I train almost every day, quite often twice a day. For a year or 2 before I started weightlifting, I was only doing bodyweight exercises and cycling. Once I hit the iron, I never went back.
I feel like I’m just starting learn how to build muscle. Lately I’ve been eating a 2000 calorie breakfast consisting of:
1/2 loaf Manna Bread(sprouted whole grain) with CLA butter
stir fry: onions, red peppers, 4-8 oz grass fed steak, broccoli or kale sauteed in extra-virgin coconut oil with spices and salt
smoothie: 2-3 oranges, 1/2 cup hempseed, 1/4 cup cacao beans, 2 raw free range eggs, shitload of kale or spinach
with breakfast I may also drink white or green tea and take rhodiola and curcumin 500
The main reason I started this thread was to get an idea of whether or not I should enter this amateur BB show I saw posted at the gym I go to. I would also like to talk about my diet and training on this thread for the purpose of giving and receiving advice. I also need an ego check because my gym is full of dumbass clowns who do stupid bullshit.[/quote]
I’m no bb’ing coach but entering an ameatur contest seems like a great idea. I’ve coached women in figure but that’s a different animal.
You’ve got a damn solid base for only 2 years of iron and if you sit at 160 now that means pre-contest you could sit about 145-150 (fat and water loss). Trouble being if you’re over 5’8" which you look you may come off “skinny” for your height. But who gives a crap, it’s you’re first show. What you’ll learn from the process alone will be worth it.
IMO parts to bring up: calves, lat thickness/width, tricep size (long head) in relation to bicep overdevelopment, and hamstrings. Glutes, shoulders, biceps, quads and abs all seem good. There’s not a good shot of the chest here so I can’t comment.
Not much help I’m sure but the main point is to motivate you to do it! Anything you’ve seriously considered has got to be worth at least trying.
BUT do get a proper BB’ing coach to teach you how to pose!! Jeff Willet’s Posing to Win DVD on his site is a good start.
One of my figure gals her first show hands down had the best body/conditioning (as commented by other competitors coaches and competitors herself) but we trusted her posing to someone who really didn’t help her and her posing was horrid.
She lost at least a placing because of horrid posing. Pose way better than your competition (not hard at an ameatur level) with even a decent body and you could place.
Good base. I say go ahead and do the competition. It will provide you with experience, and then you can come back in a few years and do well with a lot more mass.
I’m not a bodybuilder and post here because I consider weights the best supplementary sport and hold the this site in high esteem.
So take this with a grain of salt, because I’m never gonna compete in bb unless I’ll break a knee in the next years.
Don’t.
You look ok, obviously, and you’ve learnt a lot and made progress.
Especially your diet seems top notch for someone your level. If you continue to gain lean muscle like this, great.
However, competing means dieting.
And your upper body is far from filled out. Your thighs are good, though.
You told us: “I feel like I’m just starting learn how to build muscle.”
If that’s the case, most definitely don’t compete. Your body is getting the hang of it and you’re going to change that? For what? A shitty trophy?
And to put things in perspective: Apart from your quads, I’ve met quite a few athletes in my life that have a better upper body then you without ever touching a weight, @ the same or even lower body fat.
At your height, I’d say reach AT LEAST 185 lbs before competing.
You do have a solid base, but if you cut for a show, you’re going to be surprised how much smaller you get, and to be completely honest here, you may not like how you end up looking. I had built myself up to about 215/220 long before I ever decided to compete, and even though I could see my abs when flexed at that weight, to step onstage, I had to go down to a middleweight (about 175 lbs). So while I do applaud your progress, I wouldn’t rush to the stage just yet.
How old are you? Im asking because if you are entering in a teen division or something along those lines, you may have another year to progress before hitting the stage.
No offense intended by the following OP, I’m just trying to be straight, but why do you think that you are in a position to enter a show? I see this alot with people who have been training for a short period of time, they seem to think that they can put on a bit of muscle and suddenly they are show worthy when they are not and I don’t understand it?
I consider a bodybuilder at any level to have a look that is much bigger than a fitness model and at this stage you do not possess such a look.
Don’t waste your time cutting down and shedding the hard earned muscle at this point, train hard for another couple of years, add a good deal more muscle and then come back.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
You do have a solid base, but if you cut for a show, you’re going to be surprised how much smaller you get, and to be completely honest here, you may not like how you end up looking. I had built myself up to about 215/220 long before I ever decided to compete, and even though I could see my abs when flexed at that weight, to step onstage, I had to go down to a middleweight (about 175 lbs). So while I do applaud your progress, I wouldn’t rush to the stage just yet.
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Thanks Stu. I’ve read a lot of your posts and I value your opinion. I’ve actually decided against this competition because yes, I’m not big enough yet, I’ve also never done a true cut. I’ve also been in a good bulking groove for the past few weeks and I don’t wanna fuck it up. I think seeing the BB poster while in the groove got my adrenaline going or something LOL. Maybe next year. . .
[quote]synergy93 wrote:
Very good “cycling quads”[/quote]
They actually got like that from deep back squats, deep front squats, and Bulgarian split squats. When I used to cycle, I just had a decent vastus lateralis. Now that you mention it, I took that picture after a nice front squat session.