It happens. Some guys never recover back to their prior levels. Some guys never even come close.
So sad hope time will figure this outā¦
Does anyone know will just testosterone raises prolactin, i know tren and deca will for sure but how about sustanon?
Yes it will. It will raise E2 and prolactin if taken alone. Why do you want to raise your prolactin? Are you trying to grow manboobs?
Sorry no. I want to check also my prolactin level if its elevated and causing suppression to my HPTA, havent recovered in 5 months after Sustanon cycleā¦ Also one question i think i started my pct way too early because undecaonate has 21 days HL, so that means my last injenction is cut to half (50mg) as sustanon contains 100mg undecaonate but my other injections couple days before that and couple of weeks before is still running around my body ? Am i right or really wrong?
Its been 2 monhts since you quit right? PCT or not you have have recovered by now. You arenāt taking anything(sarms peptide, aas) to keep yourself shutdown are you?
I quit my injections 4.11.18 then i was three weeks off before i started my PCT which was Nolva 40/40/20/20 and after 2 months i got my blood
Free test 110 pmol/l (155-800)
Total test 5,9 nmol/l (10-38)
FSH 2,2 U/l (1.0-12.0)
LH 1,4 U/I (1,5-9)
SHBG 20 nmol/l (10-57). I was told to wait another 3 months to check them again but now im only taking low dose clomid and AI as KSMAN suggested for HPTA restart and on start on june i will check my bloos tests again but that else should i add to my blood test i will do thryoid panel and e2 and prolactin is there anything else cholesterols and lipids are fine they were also checked last time. So at this point im not taking any sarms peptises or aas.
What do you think @hrdlvn @iron_yuppie @zeek1414 @blshaw
IMO you are still shutdown. The question is why. Why has your pituitary gland not fired back up?
Are to taking HCG? If not something is up with your pituitary gland. This is not your balls fault. That said I have to be honest with you I have no experience with sustanon that long ass half life could still be a problem. Time might be all you need or hell if you have the funds buy another PCT it canāt hurt while you wait.
Yes i am currently taking some clomid and slowly tapering it off and 4 weeks after that take the labs hope they have came better but i think PCT is just kickstart to HPTA and after pct, you still need recover time as T levels raises gradually after that, i think after PCT younare not straight where you were before AAS ? Am i right? Sorry i should have more knwoledge of these shitty long Half lives etc before even start to cycle, so im sorry for my stupud questions and yes i have not used HCG never i think its suppressive to HPTA at this point and i should used it in cycle
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Another example of a miss timed PCT, thatās all. Sustanon has the decanoate ester hence why your SERM did not work. You only waited 3 weeks after your last pin, with decanoate I would have waited at least 4-5 weeks.
SB
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Yes i hope this second roune of clomid will help me get back on track but im doing low dose, first 4 weeks was 50mg EOD then 2 weeks 25mg EOD now 12,5mg EOD, hope this will be enough or what do you think @Singhbuilder
That should be sufficient.
SB
Good to know thanks mate @Singhbuilder
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People wait exactly as the half life of other esters why sustanon longer?
Do you understand that the half life of a compound refers 1 shot. If the half life of the enanthate ester is 2 weeks, it does NOT mean that 2 weeks after a 10 week cycle the amount of drug in the system is only half of the last shot. There is a build of drug from all the previous shots.
Please research half lives, drug build up and drug elimination times.
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Yes I know that but I havenāt seen anywhere suggesting wait longer than half life of longest Ester
Do you have any sources for this
There doesnt always have to be a source for everything. Its common sense sometimes, why would you start using a SERM when there are high levels of exogenous hormone in body exerting negative feedback?
Having said that, I did see a study that showed levels below 100mg/wk plus SERM worked to bring the HPTA back.
SB
But thatās counter to common sense. Half life refers to how long it takes for half of the original dose to be eliminated. So a two week half life means you still have more time to go before itās gone.
Ye but there is also massive experience gathered over the years
Then why it didnāt become common practice to wait like 2x of longest half life Ester?
I have read so many different sources and guides. If I recall correctly all suggest wait until the half life of longest Ester
It also comes to me logically that it would accumulate in body. Maybe something we missing here?
I will write a software to see how would it released into body mathmetically based on half life of esters
Why is it common practice? Probably the same reason that ancient Greeks read bird entrails to predict when a battle would begin or why people have a āsystemā for gambling. In other words broscience.