Just out of curiosity since my question on another topic was deleted.
Seeing as tren has no aromatization what are the worst side effects one could get?
[quote]Rippemanewone wrote:
Just out of curiosity since my question on another topic was deleted.
Seeing as tren has no aromatization what are the worst side effects one could get?[/quote]
well lets see.
blood in urine from kidney damage
Gyno that is not caused by estrogen along with actual milk production
insomnia
hightened aggression
Erectial dysfunction
I can’t think right now but I know there is more.
Fina or Tren whatever you want to call it,can be either a horrible compound or a wonderful one.
its not for everyone,it can be quite harsh really.
Do not take it alone
There are more than one feminizing hormones - prolactin, progesterone - not to mention the estrogen provided by drugs used alongside tren and occasionally the natural levels of estrogen in male physiology can cause problems when on a drug that is a progestin.
While Tren does not aromatise, if estrogen levels are of a moderate level due to other stacked drugs used, then Trenbolone is able to make that estrogen more ‘effective’ meaning that levels that would not normally cause problems now can - and coupled with heightened prolactin and progesterone, the inclusion of estrogen can bring about an ideal environment for lactation and gynocomastia.
This is easily avoided.
It is a powerful powerful androgen, 5x more androgenic than Testosterone - which i believe means it has 5x the affinity for the Androgen Receptor. This is the reason it is often considered a very harsh drug. All very powerful androgens are kind of ‘harsh’ (harsh is a personal description by me, not a generally accepted term).
Drugs such as Methyltrieniolone, Fluoxymesterone, Trenbolone all seem to cause a certain amount of discomfort and the orals tend to be some of the most toxic preparations available.
Tren is known to cause insomnia, very heightened aggression in even mild mannered men, acne, night-time sweating, reduced aerobic capacity and also a loss of appetite.
I may have missed some negative sides, but even though i often have the product in my keep - it is not one i use…
Many use the drug in dosages of around 350-500mg/wk. Those who are very concerned about the side effects, most often insomnia and aggression, will use it in dosages of 150-250mg/wk.
This would be my personal range also.
Trenbolone is an advanced drug to use. it is an effective anabolic but due to the side effects it is very difficult to use to attain maximum size. For this reason it accompanies weight loss plans much easier.
I hear the strength gains from it are simply out of this world.
Judging by your picture, if i were you - i would hesitate to use such a product at your point of development.
The simple asking of such a newbie question tells me that you have no place using it - estrogen should rarely be the worst enemy of AAS users these days due to the drugs available… AI’s.
Ok?
JJ
Nice write up Brook.
I agree with Brook, as Tren is not for everybody. I have had use it for 4 weeks prior to competition, and had very good success with it. I did not experience a highten aggressive state, but it did cause me to have trouble with keeping my wind while doing cardio.
Also, only with 4 weeks of use, caused me to not recover for an extended period of time post cycle. Caused my libido to take a lot longer to kick back in. This was not due to an inadequate PCT regiment, but to the use of Tren, I believe.
I have had collegues who cannot take tren at all due to aggression and acne, but I haven’t heard of insomnia in my circles, not dismissing that side though.
My use was not overwelming, 300mg/week.
Goodluck.
What was the brand of the product? (NOT the supplier mind you) and what were your gains like in both muscle retention during lower calorie and strength with possible restricted carbs?
I am of course assuming that the competition was a Bodybuilding show.
Brook
The question that has got me into more trouble than anything in my life…
“What’s the worst that could happen?”
Hehe!
What is even funnier is that he is talking about one of the toughest AAS side effect-wise - not a little oral primo and var!
LMAO!
Yeah i hear one should run it with test to help prevent libido loss.
Brook, It was a bodybuilding comp, I did two in back to back weekends.
The brand was from a legitamate underground lab, I believe it was Medi-Tren by MediVet, sorry I don’t have the boxes anymore.
I was on a very restricted carb diet, going as many as 7 days without carbs, then loading for a couple days, then repeating. I was astounded by retaining and even increasing in strength during the end of the no carb days.
I remember adding 10 lbs to my incline DB presses the week before the first show after having zero carbs for 6 days. I was still squating 455 lbs for sets of 10 two weeks out (which is about 20 lbs heavier than before the diet started).
I used the tren from the first show, through the second and seemed to get harder with each day. I started the diet at 245 lbs, and 17% bf, and ended with the day of the second show at 207 lbs at 3.5%. I was very pleased to say the least with my muscle retention.
The side effects while on were not bad with me, maybe the lower doses helped, I believe use the least amount that gives the desired results, more is not always better. But the libido loss for the weeks after discontinuing were pretty bad in my mind. I’m talking about a 5-6 week period of not having much drive, which is not as bad as some stories I have heard, but still bad in my book…lol.
Jukebox, I’m inclined to agree. The more people I talk to who have run it at higher doses have said that the sides far outweigh the benefits. I feel like Tren is one of the compounds that can end be up being counterproductive at higher doses.
One guy I know like to run 25mg EOD and he claims to have great effects from a dose that low.
I hear you Schmazz, usually in this game less is always more. The toughest task is to find what works for you, and stick with it. As much as I enjoyed the on-cycle effects of tren, I will only use it for a limited period and only for contest prep.