[quote]GymJenn wrote:
Hi!
Figure Girl with implants here!
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I doubt anyone’s going to say she’s not hot. Timea Majorova comes to mind also. She was hot before and after the implants. It all comes down to how good the doctor was I think.
I find it sad that a website like T-Nation has people posting to complain about how a figure girls tits look, rather than giving the props and respect they deserve for the absolute grueling dieting, training and discipline it takes to get there.
And if a guy doesn’t understand this, he’ll never get his hands on them anyways.
I don’t want to discredit the effort of any athlete, I am merely observing that if your going to train as hard as you do and put so much effort in your body that it is downright silly to be ashamed of having a flat chest. Maybe that’s just the world we live in.
I didn’t mean to insult your dedication, fuck that I am amazed at some of the physical feats people accomplish. It just seems downright wrong that the vision of beauty in your mind can’t be accomplished unless your brought under the knife.
God knows when I lose all my weight, down nearly 100 pounds from my peak, I will have to have skin removal surgery for me to be satisfied with my body, so I guess I am just a big fat hypocrite.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
I think you guys are a little harsh. [/quote]
Not as harsh as it is to look at a womans face after she has been dieting on Winstrol!
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I am hoping you appreciate the dedication and hard work to get themselves to the level that the judges are expecting and you guys should know they aren’t shredded 365days of the year. [/quote]
I know they put a lot of hard work into it. That is what is so sad about it, they put in so much effort and end up not looking all that good.
A good place to start is to stop having gay men for judges. Get a clue girl. They want women who look like little boys because that is what they are attracted to.
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And boobs are kind of a nonissue as they can be bought. They are such a small part of their figure. [/quote]
This is the attitude that is causing the problem. Breast implants are not just another fashion accessory. It is surgery and it is really obvious that something is not right afterwards. I have seen very few boob jobs that came out looking somewhat okay but I have seen a lot of them that turned out bad.
What gets me is how delusional and in denial you women are about this subject. Plastic titties do not look like the real thing, they don’t feel the same, and they don’t move the same. They might bounce (real obviously)as one solid mass, but they don’t jiggle with little ripples of motion. Then when you combine them with facial features that have been masculinised from dieting it makes the girls look like tranvestites.
Then there is the mental/personality aspect. A girl with plastic titties might as well have a tattoo on her forehead saying “I have to compensate for my lack of personality” or “I have self esteem issues”. They reflect a lack of sexiness. Plastic titties are the ultimate symbol of a plastic personality.
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Their development of butt and the definition of their backs and the overall look when they aren’t stripped down to compete is so lovely.
They compete looking the way the competition expects them to look [/quote]
In summation I would like to say that there are guys out there who do not find breast implants attractive. Probably more than you ladies realize. And don’t think we are so shallow and stupid that we can’t tell. We spend a lot more of our time studying breasts than you do. We know.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
In summation I would like to say that there are guys out there who do not find breast implants attractive. Probably more than you ladies realize. And don’t think we are so shallow and stupid that we can’t tell. We spend a lot more of our time studying breasts than you do. We know.[/quote]
Oh noes! You don’t think something a total stranger is doing is attractive and you think she should give a shit! Gosh. Now thats why we should think you are shallow and stupid. Nobody actually gives a shit if you know. You are just not as important as you think.
Do you seriously think these incredible women spend their lives worrying about what you think? Seriously?!
[quote]Sifu wrote:
Then there is the mental/personality aspect. A girl with plastic titties might as well have a tattoo on her forehead saying “I have to compensate for my lack of personality” or “I have self esteem issues”. They reflect a lack of sexiness. Plastic titties are the ultimate symbol of a plastic personality.[/quote]
Wow, I didn’t realize I had no personality, thanks for filling me in! I guess you are the expert here, so there should be no reason for me to even attempt to refute your undeniable generalizations. And since my self esteem is so messed up, I am going to cry myself to sleep because my body isn’t perfect according to your standards, right?
Oh, and to Sk01, I am not sure the word “ashamed” is the best way to describe why women get implants. Just my opinion.
It’s really none of your business what weight training women do. Just because they get on stage does not give any weight whatsoever to these carping “opinions”, particularly this sex-driven sniping by males. What gives you an erection when looking at a female has not a good goddamn thing to do with these women and what they choose to pursue with their training.
No one is saying to keep your opinion to yourself, but never forget, it is your opinion, not a “fact”. Others may see things quite differently. No one is holding a pistol to your head and forcing you to look. Trying to “drum up” an agreement party for such negativity is simply an excuse to justify discrimination against a group of people, and that is not only asinine, but narrow minded, arrogant and uncalled for (and all the more cowardly by hiding behind the front of “merely” giving an “honest opinion”). How soon some forget being insulted because you chose to diet & exercise, rather than stay a fatass or a pencilneck…
women have breast implants and plastic surgery.
And some women have anabolics
Men have steroids and flashy cars, get used to it.
Saying that breast implants mean that a girl has no self esteem is like saying juicers are really scared little boys that deep down want their mommies to love them more.
[quote]Michele C wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Then there is the mental/personality aspect. A girl with plastic titties might as well have a tattoo on her forehead saying “I have to compensate for my lack of personality” or “I have self esteem issues”. They reflect a lack of sexiness. Plastic titties are the ultimate symbol of a plastic personality.
Wow, I didn’t realize I had no personality, thanks for filling me in! I guess you are the expert here, so there should be no reason for me to even attempt to refute your undeniable generalizations. And since my self esteem is so messed up, I am going to cry myself to sleep because my body isn’t perfect according to your standards, right?
Oh, and to Sk01, I am not sure the word “ashamed” is the best way to describe why women get implants. Just my opinion.
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Yeah Sifu thats a pretty bloody stupid generalization.
In fact this whole threads arguments against figure competitors, female bb’s and fake tits are all pretty retarded.
Its easy to say ‘women don’t look attractive with low bf and boob jobs’ but IMO (and pretty much every guys I reckon) Michele is a clear example of this being total crap!
3% bodyfat is not too appealing on any gender. It is a personal thing for me though. I am in no way discrediting the effort though. As body fat drops, the next % point is exponentially harder than the previous.
There are poses that look silly to me, and with my bias, look sillier on women than men at the competition level. The standing “relaxed” pose with the “ILS” position.
When a persons bodyfat% drops so low it F’s with their body’s natural functions…that to me would be a warning sign.
Now excuse me my ice cream is melting
[quote]Michele C wrote:
Oh, and to Sk01, I am not sure the word “ashamed” is the best way to describe why women get implants. Just my opinion.
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I don’t know why, but my assumption is that it is some sort of inferiority complex. If mens penises were displayed as prominently as breasts are for women I am sure there would be a lot more penis enlargement surgeries going on. A great deal of you figure competitors are gorgeous and I am sure the world would accept you without your breasts. But who am I to tell anybody how to live, I am just making conversation.
[quote]debraD wrote:
Sifu wrote:
In summation I would like to say that there are guys out there who do not find breast implants attractive. Probably more than you ladies realize. And don’t think we are so shallow and stupid that we can’t tell. We spend a lot more of our time studying breasts than you do. We know.
Oh noes! You don’t think something a total stranger is doing is attractive and you think she should give a shit! Gosh. Now thats why we should think you are shallow and stupid. Nobody actually gives a shit if you know. You are just not as important as you think.
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It sounds like I hit a nerve. The fact is my attitude is not uncommon, there are a lot of men who do not find breast implants attractive and even find them unattractive.
Years ago there was a survey done by a magazine, (I think it was MM2k) where they interviewed fitness competitors and bodybuilders about their breast implants. One of the more interesting things this survey turned up was that these women more pressure to get implants from other women than they did from men.
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Do you seriously think these incredible women spend their lives worrying about what you think? Seriously?! [/quote]
If they are not worried about what other people think about them why are they willing to risk their ruining their health, getting mutilated or even losing their lives undergoing implant surgery? Are you seriously trying to suggest they don’t care about what other people think yet they take that kind of a risk? Seriously?!
I am just stating an honest opinion that like a lot of guys, I like a woman who keeps it real. I find it interesting that you would try denegrate me as being stupid and shallow because I say that I can accept a woman the way she is without having to have surgical alterations.
I don’t think it is shallow to be able to appreciate the variety of shapes and sizes that women come in. I am not the only one here either, just look at the thread that went on about the American Gymnastics team a couple of weeks ago. Those girls are in shape and they look great a lack of implants didn’t stop them from getting kudos from the board.
Shawn Johnson was really popular in that thread. With that cute face and all that ass we had plenty to discuss, noone spoiled the conversation by saying she has small breasts they are going to have send her to the doctor to do something about that. If they had it probably would have started a flame war.
[quote]Michele C wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Then there is the mental/personality aspect. A girl with plastic titties might as well have a tattoo on her forehead saying “I have to compensate for my lack of personality” or “I have self esteem issues”. They reflect a lack of sexiness. Plastic titties are the ultimate symbol of a plastic personality.
Wow, I didn’t realize I had no personality, thanks for filling me in! I guess you are the expert here, so there should be no reason for me to even attempt to refute your undeniable generalizations. And since my self esteem is so messed up, I am going to cry myself to sleep because my body isn’t perfect according to your standards, right?
Oh, and to Sk01, I am not sure the word “ashamed” is the best way to describe why women get implants. Just my opinion.
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If that is you in the avatar I give you high score in the looks department. The face is pretty and you look fit. I would wonder why you felt an inadequacy. I wouldn’t be surprised if you looked hot before the surgery too.
I’m staying out of this. Good luck, Sifu.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I’m staying out of this. Good luck, Sifu.[/quote]
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another impressive avatar wol.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
women have breast implants and plastic surgery.
And some women have anabolics
Men have steroids and flashy cars, get used to it.
Saying that breast implants mean that a girl has no self esteem is like saying juicers are really scared little boys that deep down want their mommies to love them more. [/quote]
I am just giving some food for thought. I have known women who were quite attractive who didn’t have big breasts. Mae West was no beauty but she was one of the sexiest women in Hollywood, because she knew how to work it.
I have had women who were very well put together tell me they want boob jobs and it astounds me when I hear it. I have seen some hot attractive women get wrecked. When Pamela Anderson was first in Playboy she was a natural C cup and she looked great. She did not need those big awkward implants.
It is just like Rick Valente, if you look at pictures of him before he went crazy with the synthol he looked better then.
There are people going crazy with the more is better mentality. It might be discomforting to have someone point it out but it is true.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
I’m staying out of this. Good luck, Sifu.[/quote]
My Brother! Thanks for the support. 
[quote]Dylanj wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
I’m staying out of this. Good luck, Sifu.
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another impressive avatar wol.[/quote]
Thanks, dude. I don’t even remember what avatar I’m using right now. Cocaine’s a hell of a drug.