Just because you think he’s natural doesn’t mean he’s a natural, just means he’s really good.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
In every social situation outside my own home, I’m always alert and aware of my surroundings. I size up everyone, yet do not show a thing on the outside.
Second nature.
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It certainly should be. [/quote]
Exactly. But you’d be surprised at the lax attitude some people have regarding their own safety. In a past thread there were those who even labeled it “paranoid” to be so overly aware.
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Wasnt that the jogging thread and females etc. wearing head phones and such? [/quote]
I can’t recall. But I think I remember someone being attacked at a gas station.
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Yeah…they said I was paranoid because I look around me at 3am when at the gas station.
On line with the topic, I had someone I went to school with puff up like that upon seeing me for the first time since high school. he used to be bigger than me. It struck me as odd, but I guess I can see why he felt a need to do that. I was like 150lbs back then. He has clearly not kept up with the weights.
I try (emphasis on try) to be polite to everyone and if that doesn’t work then adapt accordingly.
[quote]comus3 wrote:
I try (emphasis on try) to be polite to everyone and if that doesn’t work then adapt accordingly.[/quote]
Your in Alaska, there is like what 100 people there?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]comus3 wrote:
I try (emphasis on try) to be polite to everyone and if that doesn’t work then adapt accordingly.[/quote]
Your in Alaska, there is like what 100 people there?[/quote]
Yeah but the bears respond well to manners.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]comus3 wrote:
I try (emphasis on try) to be polite to everyone and if that doesn’t work then adapt accordingly.[/quote]
Your in Alaska, there is like what 100 people there?[/quote]
Yeah but the bears respond well to manners.[/quote]
hahahahhahaahahahaha
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Geez guys is the world this dangerous to you all? Unless someone is pulling a gun, and you don’t have one, the world and other men are not that scary 
You boys need to relax. I thought we had a bunch of pitbulls here (at least from the tenor of most of the “Tman” postings in these forums) and lo and behold, we have a bunch of nervous, pacing, staring, hair raised, ears pinned back chihuahuas Maybe that’s why there is such a quest to get “swolled” - to scare the other mean boys at school?[/quote]
Really, didn’t you ever have an amped up pit, one that just went crazy all the time. Wanted to kill anything it couldn’t bone and even possibly that too. Had a couple like that, never got tired, never slept, never ran out of energy, and they weren’t over inbreed shit pits. It was just them.
But usually the only time I am defensive is if it isn’t just me that I have to worry about. If I am somewhere with my wife, kids or other more vulnerable family members, or am working a side job.
We were on vacation in Disney a week and a half ago, and it was quite interesting.
It was my wife and our kids, my best friend (also sparring partner for fights and worked security with me) his wife (my wife’s younger sister) and daughter, my wife’s parents (her father was a sniper in vietnam), another buddy of ours who was home for 3 months, just finished up another round of specialized training with the green beret’s, and a couple others with us. We were leaving the magic kingdom after dinner with cinderella and fireworks, I know real manly stuff there. And I know it is a magical place and all no need to be defensive, but we had family with us so we like to ensure buffer zones and such. Well there was a big fight brewing very subtlety between a group of about 20 who didn’t speak english and some canadians, found that out after. The hispanic group was pushing its way through people to just go to the front of the line. The canadians told them off and a bystander walking by (a 10 yr old girl) got punched in the face by one of the more brazen hispanic men.
Before our wives knew anything had happened they were all behind my wife’s father with the kids, there 3 unconscious hispanic men and the fight was completely diffused, because this all occurred way to close to our little circle. Now had it been us guys who knows if much would have happened, maybe because they hit a little girl, but we probably would have let the father have his fun instead. Now had we not been observant and somewhat protective it could have grown into something more, so does that make us all crazy for being more alert, observant and defensive in our thoughts and actions when we have people to protect with us.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]comus3 wrote:
I try (emphasis on try) to be polite to everyone and if that doesn’t work then adapt accordingly.[/quote]
Your in Alaska, there is like what 100 people there?[/quote]
True. Alaskans are generally weird, but polite. Although people tend to be heavily armed here.
[quote]comus3 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]comus3 wrote:
I try (emphasis on try) to be polite to everyone and if that doesn’t work then adapt accordingly.[/quote]
Your in Alaska, there is like what 100 people there?[/quote]
True. Alaskans are generally weird, but polite. Although people tend to be heavily armed here. [/quote]
Hahahahahahahahahaha cant argue with that.
Well I’m sure none of these alert men would never do something as stupid as let their penis between a person’s jaws and intact teeth.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Really, didn’t you ever have an amped up pit, one that just went crazy all the time. Wanted to kill anything it couldn’t bone and even possibly that too. Had a couple like that, never got tired, never slept, never ran out of energy, and they weren’t over inbreed shit pits. It was just them.
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Terrible analogy.
The difference my friend, is THAT dog really wants to get to the object of its desire.
The other shit is all threat display. I betcha that “amped up pit” of yours didn’t have his hair raised or engage in other posturing.
BTW, I have owned/fed about 60 in my time with the breed. I have been around 1000’s. I know them like the back of my hand.
I size everyone up but have no intention of fighting anyone, ever.
I always size up people. I’ve been conditioned to do so.
I have a feeling this is going to turn into a street smart thread. Someone is going to come in with the pacifist/love not hate argument, BG or someone from the BJL will respond with a 4 page letter (sorry I’ve been listening to Aaliyah lately), and I’ll end up posting pics of something to derail the thread even further.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]xxrob5xx wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Its called be a young buck.
No worries token when you get older you do this less and less.[/quote]
I agree this is most likely due to you being a young and arrogant.
As you age you will also grow out of that phase.[/quote]
To clarify I did mean showing that you are ready. When you get older you get more subtle, you dont get all swole up like a Rooster when other Roosters are around.
I still size people up and go through the mental aspect of it. [/quote]
Exactly. In every social situation outside my own home, I’m always alert and aware of my surroundings. I size up everyone, yet do not show a thing on the outside.
Second nature.
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X1000
I have done it for the majority of my life. I noticed as a kid that wherever we went if i followed my dads eyes they would scan a room. Once I asked him why he did that and he explained to me that he was sizing everyone in the room up, looking for exits, possible exits, and possible weapons so he could protect us in case something happened. I also noticed he always put himself between us and any threat, whether it be traffic in a parking lot or just weirdos on the street.
I started doing the same thing and do to this day. I honestly think that is part of the reason I won my wife over.
I have also noticed how few people do it. Dads dont put themselves between their children and traffic. They dont get in between the guy with crossed eyes and a tick while walking down the street. It kind of makes me wonder what they are thinking…
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
I have also noticed how few people do it. Dads dont put themselves between their children and traffic. They dont get in between the guy with crossed eyes and a tick while walking down the street. It kind of makes me wonder what they are thinking…[/quote]
I don’t/wouldn’t do any of the things you have listed because it’s not natural for me. In no way I’d get inside a room and “look for possible exits and weapons”. Getting between the kid and the traffic is something that yes, I’d do, but getting in between people who may look bit weird and the kid can lead to some bad prejudices for the kid in the future (and this is something I’ve seen, but it was with black people).
The place and conditions of youth are important for this, I guess. Safer places…or at least, less paranoia. Because in any of the two cities I’ve lived, if you get inside a room, start to look for “possible exits and weapons” and tell someone, he will look you like if you were the crazy one who needs to be avoided…
Every place i enter i measure with EVERY person there in case something happens.
Better than not thinking at all.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
I have also noticed how few people do it. Dads dont put themselves between their children and traffic. They dont get in between the guy with crossed eyes and a tick while walking down the street. It kind of makes me wonder what they are thinking…[/quote]
I don’t/wouldn’t do any of the things you have listed because it’s not natural for me. In no way I’d get inside a room and “look for possible exits and weapons”. Getting between the kid and the traffic is something that yes, I’d do, but getting in between people who may look bit weird and the kid can lead to some bad prejudices for the kid in the future (and this is something I’ve seen, but it was with black people).
The place and conditions of youth are important for this, I guess. Safer places…or at least, less paranoia. Because in any of the two cities I’ve lived, if you get inside a room, start to look for “possible exits and weapons” and tell someone, he will look you like if you were the crazy one who needs to be avoided…
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To each his own, i guess.
And its not like pops was scanning the room giving people the evil eye, I idolized him my entire life and studied every move he made and i didnt notice it till i was around 15. He was very casual with everything. Fists never clinched, never huffing or puffing. He never told anyone what he did it but me, as his son that asked him specifically what he was doing. I talked to my sister recently about it to see if she ever noticed her husband doing the same thing or ever remembered pops doing it and she noticed neither. I never built prejudices from which side he was walking on. Never even realized anything was going on. I honestly dont see how one could unless you tell them - ‘that guy looks weird, get over here’ which never happened. My now wife realized I do it because after we had been dating a few years there was a drunk/high/whatever dude stumbling/jogging down the bridge we were crossing with a bottle in his hand and i had to switch sides with her quickly because he was approaching quickly. she started watching where i am located when we walk down the street and when we are in crowds and asked me about it later. I honestly told her the truth.
Personally, if you wouldnt get between someone like that and your loved ones because it might build prejudices in their minds, you may need to rethink your priorities. But, its a free country and you can do whatever you feel is proper. I will continue doing what I feel is proper- getting between any threat and the ones i love. again, to each his own, i suppose.
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]Da Man reloaded wrote:
I have also noticed how few people do it. Dads dont put themselves between their children and traffic. They dont get in between the guy with crossed eyes and a tick while walking down the street. It kind of makes me wonder what they are thinking…[/quote]
I don’t/wouldn’t do any of the things you have listed because it’s not natural for me. In no way I’d get inside a room and “look for possible exits and weapons”. Getting between the kid and the traffic is something that yes, I’d do, but getting in between people who may look bit weird and the kid can lead to some bad prejudices for the kid in the future (and this is something I’ve seen, but it was with black people).
The place and conditions of youth are important for this, I guess. Safer places…or at least, less paranoia. Because in any of the two cities I’ve lived, if you get inside a room, start to look for “possible exits and weapons” and tell someone, he will look you like if you were the crazy one who needs to be avoided…
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To each his own, i guess.
And its not like pops was scanning the room giving people the evil eye, I idolized him my entire life and studied every move he made and i didnt notice it till i was around 15. He was very casual with everything. Fists never clinched, never huffing or puffing. He never told anyone what he did it but me, as his son that asked him specifically what he was doing. I talked to my sister recently about it to see if she ever noticed her husband doing the same thing or ever remembered pops doing it and she noticed neither. I never built prejudices from which side he was walking on. Never even realized anything was going on. I honestly dont see how one could unless you tell them - ‘that guy looks weird, get over here’ which never happened. My now wife realized I do it because after we had been dating a few years there was a drunk/high/whatever dude stumbling/jogging down the bridge we were crossing with a bottle in his hand and i had to switch sides with her quickly because he was approaching quickly. she started watching where i am located when we walk down the street and when we are in crowds and asked me about it later. I honestly told her the truth.
Personally, if you wouldnt get between someone like that and your loved ones because it might build prejudices in their minds, you may need to rethink your priorities. But, its a free country and you can do whatever you feel is proper. I will continue doing what I feel is proper- getting between any threat and the ones i love. again, to each his own, i suppose.[/quote]
We’re in different countries, that’s why it’s different.
What you did with your to-be-wife is more obvious, but I’m looking more at the defensive behaviour at any moment. Also, you have to remember about the body language reaction possibilities.
I only got a bit defensive when going home night from work because it’s a bad area, but I have never had any issues (and I hope I never have), but if I go defensive, is very subtle. However, if I see someone who enters a room and he scans everyone and starts looking around the walls and stuff, I will get defensive due to his behaviour.
It’s this kind of logic that you can find with self-fulfilling prophecies or this “carrying a gun increases the chances of dying by gunfire”.
A person is in a defensive position constantly, so other people can feel he’s menacing and go defensive themselves as a reaction.
This is kinda how it goes with me, I really only get defensive at night, as I said, or if I see someone’s body language being strange and I don’t do it actively.
Now imagine that you’re walking home at night and there’s a guy coming in front. Here, where I live, both will not even look at each other, just pass each other and that’d be it. Imagine that we actually walk too close and hit each other, by accident, so both apologize and move on.
Now think what would happen if both go with “defensive mode” and this happens…the reaction could be much different. I’m just making up an example, but I’ve learned that our body language can trigger lots of reactions without us wanting that.
Is the crime rate really that high? Are the streets there so annoying? Isn’t the mentality and the media causing paranoia?
Because media is to blame for things like this. Example :
In Spain around 800 hundreds men commit suicide every year. Around 50 women are killed by their husbands. Around 20 men are killed by their wives.
Suicides are never reported in media unless it’s a famous person, a gruesome way to commit suicide or if it’s part of other crime (“He killed his neighbour, then took his own life”).
Men being killed by their wives is often “forgotten” to be reported by general media, however, women being killed by their husbands always takes top priorities in the news.
Result? The general consensus is that husbands killing wives is a plague, something very common that is affecting lots of families. What happens? This creates a false alarm in the mind of people…
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Every place i enter i measure with EVERY person there in case something happens.
Better than not thinking at all.[/quote]
I prefer to bring a sword wherever I go and then just take my shirt off and flex once I arrive.
People then understand that they’re the ones who will need the exits.