Feminization of American Boys

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[quote]Sonny S wrote:
AlphaF:

If you have children and don’t want them to be educated the way you were, you may want to consider Montessori method schools, if there are some in your area.

The downside of them is that they can be expen$ive and that your children MAY have problems when it comes time to apply for college.

And also, once they move onto college, there are only a handful that do not have a rigid structure and grading system.
Hampshire College in Amherst, Mass. is one of them.[/quote]

My boys are here. I can love, discipline and educate them through these pages. Education doesn’t have to be formal, and we all have a responsability. There may be a 45 year old father or a 16 year old teenager reading reading through these pages and benefiting from something I may say.

Thank you for the information and interest. I am partially aware of the Montessori system and funny you should mention it as my friend said I should be trainned as one of their teachers. But, of course I decided to travel solo and I am now carving my own place in the world… ; )

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Gender naturality is not bs ,
Girls should get more musculine… not bitchy more masculine,

if being a f__ (sorry for that word) if what’s forced on guys look at whats forced on girls … even worse opression to say the least ,

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In The Gospel of Thomas, Jesus says that we reach paradise when the difference between the sexes disappears, when we go back even before the Garden of Eden. Since these words were written as Jesus walked along throughout the region, some scholars think these are the actual words of Jesus.

HH

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
In The Gospel of Thomas, Jesus says that we reach paradise when the difference between the sexes disappears, when we go back even before the Garden of Eden. Since these words were written as Jesus walked along throughout the region, some scholars think these are the actual words of Jesus.

HH[/quote]

That sort of throws a huge spike into the gay marriage wars going on in the Political forum, doesn’t it?

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Thatz why I have made it my personal GOAL to gedrade women who feel they are better than men cuz it aint true!!! Im gonna pee on all of them!!! there is nothing more degrading then that LOL…

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[quote]Sonny S wrote:
Instead of thinking a negative thought re: my intentions, why not simply ask me what my intentions are?

I honestly am interested in the breadth of your experience.
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13 years of public education. Several years working with students who are in the system. There are a lot of unmotivated students, parents who think the school’s job is to babysit their kids and hold their hands without any effort on their own parts, burnt out teachers who are just waiting around for retirement, and administrators who sit around thinking of ways to impose their bureaucratic world-view on students and teachers alike. There are good teachers and schools, as well.

I’m surprised you find this controversial.

I didn’t realize that it doesn’t count if it’s part time.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

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Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
In The Gospel of Thomas, Jesus says that we reach paradise when the difference between the sexes disappears, when we go back even before the Garden of Eden. Since these words were written as Jesus walked along throughout the region, some scholars think these are the actual words of Jesus.

HH

That sort of throws a huge spike into the gay marriage wars going on in the Political forum, doesn’t it? [/quote]

Not really. The Gospel of Thomas is not part of the Bible. It’s a Gnostic Gospel, meaning it’s not considered authentic. Some want to believe it to be true because the Gnostic Gospels go against the authentic Gospels in the Bible.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

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That and mandatory school uniforms.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

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I went to an all boys prep(boarding) school last four years, and it was wonderful, except the whole lack of girls outside of class.

The public school system is messed up for the most part. Luckily for me, through elementary school, I had some teachers who WANTED to help me excel, especially my fifth grade teacher who was a male. He realized I was something special, one of the top 3 kids in the grade. Then I got to sixth grade and it felt like jail and my grades were really bad. I got sent to private school in a really jewish town (I hate steriotypes, but 90% of the kids there were the steriotypical jewish person). There was even more structure so my grades got worse.

I never did get all that happy with my education until I was able to select all my courses senior year and enjoy what they had to offer and that they made me think. Result: Dean’s list for the year and headmaster’s list for 3rd quarter.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

That and mandatory school uniforms.

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What do you like about uniforms?

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[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

That and mandatory school uniforms.

What do you like about uniforms?[/quote]

Kids spend too much time and money obsessed with their clothes. In fact it becomes a priority to many kids. Girls dress like hookers and guys look like slobs. With uniforms, nobody is worrying about what clothes everyone is wearing. Seriously, check out what the kids wear in high school these days. It’s a little disturbing. They all want to look like MTV. It’s distracting.

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F*ck this shit, my son(s) if I indeed have male offspring, are getting into Judo or wrestling as well as some sort of contact sport like football or lacrosse. Even my daughter(s) will be partaking in something of that ilk.

When my kids tells me about how he is getting bullied and picked on, I will tell him to fight back if the bully gets rough. If the teachers don’t like it, they should learn to discipline the bullies so they don’t do that shit.

I will drink vanilla milkshakes and protien powders and use vanilla extract in cooking my anabolic meals but, as Prof X said, no way shall I become a vanilla-man !

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
I opened a door for a women the other day, allowing her to enter first. She gave me a dirty look as she passed through the doorway ahead of me. She then looked back and said with a snarl that she was strong enough to open her own door!

I just smiled and kept walking…

I wonder as men become more feminine, are women becoming more masulcine?[/quote]

Nah, man, she’s just on crack. I’ve had men and women open doors for me before (I’m a man). It’s never been offensive. I don’t feel like I’m being treated like a weakling or someone that actually needs the assistance. Sheeit, I’m strapped, though, so maybe they do it because they’re scared of me.

But then I do the same for others too. Women, men and especially groups of people leaving a building as I enter, etc. It’s just life. One time we serve others, and they have the experienced of being served. Another time, it is us who are served by them, who have the experience of serving.

Just smile and say “Thank you”/“You’re welcome”.

Like that episode of Kung Fu when Master Khan washed young Caine’s laundry to teach him how the served is often the servant. See, Caine was ashamed to have the master do his work, while Khan was all “But I like to do this, it makes me happy to serve you”. Young Caine learned that served and serving are just two sides of one coin, which we should all experience. And of course, after the acid flashback, older Caine applied the knowledge in helping some other people.

People need to be watching Kung Fu! Especially young boys. It’s my answer to everything.

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[quote]Head_locker wrote:
I had a conversation w/ an assistant superintendant of a school district in Washington state and he said that the dirty secret in eduction today was the drop in test scores across the board in boys. He believes its because boys aren’t allowed to be boys.[/quote]

what is often the case is that girls are marked less harshly…obviously not if it’s an optically marked test, but you get the idea

Girls also learn game/manipulation earlier and hence get a load more help

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
In The Gospel of Thomas, Jesus says that we reach paradise when the difference between the sexes disappears, when we go back even before the Garden of Eden. Since these words were written as Jesus walked along throughout the region, some scholars think these are the actual words of Jesus.[/quote]

I think you misinterpret the Gospel. What it’s saying is that we should lose the idea that “I am a man” or “I am a woman” and not TRY to act thusly. That never works, and creates a bunch of phonies acting out a gender stereotype (such as thugs and hoes).

What caused man to leave the Garden? It was the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. In nature, there is no good or evil. There just is what there is. Only man would sit around thinking about what’s right and wrong, and what we’re supposed to do or become.

So the Gospel is saying we shouldn’t act from knowledge and try to be something. We should just BE what we are, which is good enough as men and women already.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
Screw this - I say let’s bring up the GIRLS to be MORE MANLY.

Or at least get them lifting weights.

Compulsory weightlifting in all schools for all sexes.

Let their improved strength and confidence take care of the rest.

Hell, yes! I want my daughter to be tough. I will teach her how to fight so none of the little dirtbag boys will mess with her. When she fights with her older brother, I ususlly let it go unless someone is getting hurt (she wins sometimes). Raising a prissy little girl is not doing her any favors. Eventually, she will encounter a situation where she will need to defend herself. I say get rid of all school computer labs and build weight rooms. We dont’ need more fat, lazy computer geeks.

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I would not recommend this advice. Let your daughter play rough team sports, but don’t beat up the boys unless absolutely necessary. I learned what it means to be a team player from years of playing field hockey, and it’s a great skill I will use forever. But I never went to my high school proms or even went out on a date for that matter until college, all because I used to beat up boys for fun in middle school. Live and learn.

I raised each of my children to be the best they can according to their talents and strengths. And I am proud of the woman my daughter has become and the young men my sons are.

There are differences between the sexes that should be respected and celebrated, not be made fun of or put down or stereotyped as the blond bubblehead or male buffoon. I am a veteran of the original women’s rights movement in the seventies, and I can assure you that this modern man-hating “feminism” is so far removed from the ideals of the original philosophy as facism is from democracy.

Instead of using female power, these women have made victims of themselves with men as the enemy. To me, this is female weakness, and this agenda of “putting men in their place” has now backfired and the backlash from men is now here.

All I can say is “I told you so” and what took you men so long? It is not time for another sexual war. It is a time for understanding and celebrating our power, both male and female.

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[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

That and mandatory school uniforms.

What do you like about uniforms?[/quote]

We have uniforms–cheap, simple, it color codes the kids by grade level, easy for parents. It just eliminates so much crap.

Kids will always test boundaries, because they are kids. Uniforms eliminates one of the ways kids push the boundaries.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
doogie wrote:
I’ve taught kids as young as 4th grade in public schools (and as young as 4 years old at the Illinois School for the Deaf), and the experience made me a very strong advocate of all boys/girls classes.

Been teaching for 25 years. THIS would be the smartest thing ever done, to improve education and our schools.

HH

That and mandatory school uniforms.

What do you like about uniforms?

We have uniforms–cheap, simple, it color codes the kids by grade level, easy for parents. It just eliminates so much crap.

Kids will always test boundaries, because they are kids. Uniforms eliminates one of the ways kids push the boundaries.[/quote]

Again, completely agree. I see some of my students in the summer and the girls look like whores and the boys look like wandering bums. Can’t believe how dirty they get! I also think a once/week shower is about it, in the summer.

All boys should be clean shaven, trimmed hair, NO jewelry, no tongue bolts or any of that BS. Girls should look like young ladies, skirt at the knee, a nice blouse, ‘quiet’ jewelry. And they should all be IN UNIFORM.

HH

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
Screw this - I say let’s bring up the GIRLS to be MORE MANLY.
Or at least get them lifting weights.
Compulsory weightlifting in all schools for all sexes.
Let their improved strength and confidence take care of the rest.

Hell, yes! I want my daughter to be tough. I will teach her how to fight so none of the little dirtbag boys will mess with her. When she fights with her older brother, I ususlly let it go unless someone is getting hurt (she wins sometimes).

Raising a prissy little girl is not doing her any favors. Eventually, she will encounter a situation where she will need to defend herself. I say get rid of all school computer labs and build weight rooms. We dont’ need more fat, lazy computer geeks.

I would not recommend this advice.
It is not time for another sexual war. It is a time for understanding and celebrating our power, both male and female.[/quote]

I posted this in another thread a while ago. I believe it has some bearing on what the above posters are saying:

Alpha F
07/26/06
04:20 PM

The problem is that women are not getting bigger.

True fenininity has nothing to do with the “anorexic” (Im fragile, small and tender ) “weak” ( Im “soft”, gentle, submissive ) look a female is supposed to resemble in our society.

If more women were allowed to be and look physically powerful, a compatible male would be a role model of power and grace - no woman in her right mind would reject a man who is an expression of power with gracefullness.

May the way you lift be the way you are.