[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
It could be an interesting psychological question – regarding past accomplishments, anyway: not so much the present – whether such repression of the English drove them to greater achievement in various other areas than would be the case had such repression not resulted in, perhaps, a re-channeling of drives.[/quote]
The Japanese are also very efficient. They don’t emote either.
Brazilians, on the other hand, can’t get anything done - they are high achievers on emoting to have and prolong fun/pleasure.
It is also geography.
Brazil and America offer a geographic spaciousness and natural riches which enhance sensorial pleasures and therefore contribute to a greater sense of well being and contentment.
I know a 34 year old male who still wears socks on the beach - how can you not want to feel the pleasure and the sensuality of your feet being caressed by the sand? It is nature’s foot massage.
This is why, I believe they need drugs and alcohol so much to just become aware of pleasure when there is so much around us.
Also England’s highest value is Academia. You are only someone if you are highly educated.
If you have been to Oxford or Eaton, you are aristocratic elite.
Steroids do nothing to enhance and promote academic muscle.
Therefore using steroids is, in this way also, anathema to British society.
Bill, I have good news.
I found someone who is going to test the steroid for me.
Sending the pills this week.
I am VERY CURIOUS.
I noticed today, at the end of a GH cycle and a considerable drop in BF that my calves ARE bigger than they ever were previously. I never train or have trained calves.
My triceps also blew up in size though they were, as a result of competitive swimming training, one of my most responsive muscles along with front deltoids. Just like the triceps, the calves also had this layer of fat post Anavar which looked like I had cellulite on my calves also. I think the Anavar coated me in fat, actually.
The calves are now bigger and the fat layer is clearing. The tricep ‘cellulite’/fat coat is also clearing but still a bit remains. Whatever this substance was, it was incredible - it took me 5 moths to lose 2 kilos.
I have been wondering whether I have actually benefited from the androgen after I finished the short lived cycle, even though I was not dieting and not training whilst taking it.
I sat at 72kg on the GH protocol and started to lose BF and keep the weight at 72kg. That was awesome to experience! So good to keep the muscle and see the fat dissipate.
I was very happy about this until Monday when I was given a sample of Modafinil and I have lost 2 kilos in two days since taking it ( I am waiting for another batch of GH to arrive and finished a cycle of very high dosage on Saturday - don’t know if that accounts for the weight loss ).
I will do some research on this Modafinil. I can’t eat and have to force myself to drink while on it while I just keep going on automatic pilot all day long until late at night and waking up at the crack of dawn - I am operating like a machine, not fully feeling like a human being.
I have also lost all sensory information from below the waist. That is why I have no hunger, no libido, no love and no anger. My instinctual responses have been neutralized.
I am a disembodied mind at the moment.
Heck, but I look figure girl…
What a price to pay.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Also England’s highest value is Academia. You are only someone if you are highly educated.
If you have been to Oxford or Eaton, you are aristocratic elite.
Steroids do nothing to enhance and promote academic muscle.
Therefore using steroids is, in this way also, anathema to British society.[/quote]
This probably explains the prevalence of some very interesting fetishes among the Brits.
They may love their Academia in the light of day, but they sure love their rubber/S&M spankings in their dirty, dirty dark little closets.
That’s good news on the analysis. Is it going to be done by NMR requiring an interpretation, or is your source going to interpret their own data and provide the identification?
Your result from the claimed oxandrolone is weird. I wonder if instead you were sold one of the crappy current varieties of “prohormones.”
[quote]Gaea wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Also England’s highest value is Academia. You are only someone if you are highly educated.
If you have been to Oxford or Eaton, you are aristocratic elite.
Steroids do nothing to enhance and promote academic muscle.
Therefore using steroids is, in this way also, anathema to British society.
This probably explains the prevalence of some very interesting fetishes among the Brits.
They may love their Academia in the light of day, but they sure love their rubber/S&M spankings in their dirty, dirty dark little closets.[/quote]
Interesting observation. I didn’t even think of that.
The older generation of comedians constantly used this British sexual behavior as material for their satire.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
That’s good news on the analysis. Is it going to be done by NMR requiring an interpretation, or is your source going to interpret their own data and provide the identification?[/quote]
I don’t know, Bill. It is being done by the kindness of a good friend so I didn’t want to ask any questions. If informed I will post it here and as soon as I get the results I will post here. [quote]
Your result from the claimed oxandrolone is weird. I wonder if instead you were sold one of the crappy current varieties of “prohormones.”[/quote]
Indeed. That is why I am so curious. Also if it is not Anavar I might do a proper cycle now dieted and trained. This time I will document everything and measure every detail. Take pictures before, during and after and get blood work done before and after.
I found a better dosage of Modafinil at 1/4 of the 200mg pill. I might post pictures of this Moda experiment since I took pictures of the day I started on it ( I bought a Figure Asslete T shirt souvenir at the UKBFF which said One size fits all and it didn’t fit me, so I took pictures on my bathroom mirror playing figure girl, lol - I loved the BB show! ).
I will keep count of my dosage as well.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
That’s good news on the analysis. Is it going to be done by NMR requiring an interpretation, or is your source going to interpret their own data and provide the identification?
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Hi Bill,
My friend informs me two tests are going to be done:
NMR
HPLC
He is a Doctorate student of Biochemistry and he’s done several successful tests before, but his specialty is proteins. He asked me if you could help him with specific knowledge for the AAS analysis. I can pm you his name and you talk to him directly or we can do it here and I act as a mediator.
I was going to pm you and if you prefer I can start a new thread on this but since it is within the theme of female cycle I kept it here.
I won’t have anything on the HPLC, but he won’t need it. It really is just a question of getting one peak or more than one. This would establish whether it is a pure substance, or whether impurities are present.
(Now, if one happened to know the elution time under given conditions, it can help in identifying or ruling out a compound, but I won’t have that.)
On the NMR, I will check – probably this weekend but it could be early in next week – what solvent was used for the reference spectrum of oxandrolone, so he will know whether to use CDCl3 (I would think probably) or DMSOd6 (maybe.) And report where the peaks should be found.
That’s really all that is needed. The NMR is kind of like a fingerprint. Oxandrolone’s spectrum is distinct from any other compound’s.
Just my 2 cents on Anavar. Knew a woman who did 10mg a day (real pharmaceutical stuff) for 35 days. She was 102 at the beginning and weighed 108 at the end with lots of new definition and looked much more toned than before. Strength also went up. No side effects. She’s not the bodybuilder type and did say she ate a lot more protein on the cycle.
I won’t have anything on the HPLC, but he won’t need it. It really is just a question of getting one peak or more than one. This would establish whether it is a pure substance, or whether impurities are present.
(Now, if one happened to know the elution time under given conditions, it can help in identifying or ruling out a compound, but I won’t have that.)
On the NMR, I will check – probably this weekend but it could be early in next week – what solvent was used for the reference spectrum of oxandrolone, so he will know whether to use CDCl3 (I would think probably) or DMSOd6 (maybe.) And report where the peaks should be found.
That’s really all that is needed. The NMR is kind of like a fingerprint. Oxandrolone’s spectrum is distinct from any other compound’s.[/quote]
I would think any lab using HPLC would develop a standard from a known pharmaceutical and calibrate the GC to that retention time and peak finger print. That’s how I used to do it when I did bench synthesis. That’s GC/MS 101. As for the impurities you could run column chromatagraphy to separate them out, recrystalize them and run them separtely to try to determine what they are.
Or at least this method was good enough for the organic synthesis I did for high energy physics research projects and goverment entities like Fermilab. Purity was a must.
Oh, I cannot believe myself. I forgot to get the NMR spectrum of oxandrolone while I was up at UF. Was totally sidetracked with something else (and was at the Health Science Center library not the Marston, not that it’s much of a walk, but being in the different environment resulted in missing the reminder that the environment would have given.)
Problem is, it’s an hour’s drive each way.
I will look for my reference book on interpreting NMR spectra. While desirable to have the actual spectrum, oxandrolone has a quite unique feature – the 2-oxa substitution – that results in a quite distinctive chemical shift for the 1-position protons. Which can be calculated closely enough.
And having run oxandrolone in the past, I recall that that peak was way off by itself and pretty much right where it ought to have been. (Not surprisingly.) So the calculation method is definitely good.
I’m sorry to have lost time on this.
Gaea, you’re right of course that it is a good thing to obtain an authentic sample. I was supposing the case of providing an anabolic steroid to a lab that does not routinely run controlled substances, or presenting a sample as a complete unknown.
I passed on the information and my friend thanks for all your help.
He has received the sample and is awaiting for access to the lab to do the test.
I am now terribly curious about the results.