[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim.
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Hey.
Is this a relationship or just college ‘dating’/hooking up?
Would you say you have great connection with her or just a good time?[/quote]
Started off as hook up…we have a great connection when she’s not intoxicated
A relationship is an investment. If you don’t see this going anywhere with her, then drop her. College is not the time to be emotionally tied down to anyone: college is the time for figuring your shit out and getting a lot of pussy in the process, so that when you DO figure your shit out, you know what your looking for in women.
On the other hand, if she is a genuinely good person, and you could see this going somewhere, invest the time and effort into making it work. I’ve seen a ton of relationships where one partner doesn’t start out looking all that good, but as time progresses, they start looking better and better until you think WTF when did she get so hawwt? That’s just the way it works, man. I pretty much agree with Orion on this one.
PS. Fuck your friends. At the end of the day, a friend that’s going to make fun of your girlfriend isn’t one worth keeping. Trust me, some of the guys you’re tight with now are going to seem like worthless pieces of shit in a year, and you’ll have stopped talking to them all together. Don’t take their shit too seriously.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
true, but by today’s screwed up standards she would be considered at least plus size. the solid legs and butts the T-Nation women have don’t fit with todays ideals either. I mean look at the male models that are supposed to be a woman’s dream. do women really want “a six pack of diet soda and a couple of chicken wings” type of male body?
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
So awesome and the absolute truth. Almost spit coffee on my laptop!
[quote]WhiteSturgeon wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Honestly, if you are attracted to a chick that you click with emotionally and the sole hang up with your relationship is you being worried about what your friends think, then you probably aren’t ready for a relationship because that shows some huge insecurities.
Dudes that have that I need a hot chick on my arm to show people how cool I am are lacking some serious self confidence usually. I disagree with Varq and Cap, you need to change yourself before you worry about trying to change her. Especially if the reason you are trying to change her is to impress your friends. [/quote]
X10000[/quote]
X2. Which makes it 20000 for the record
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x3.14159!!![/quote]
Disagree with you all. Do wealthy, driven, good looking, successful, charming men date chubby unattractive women? Hell no.
[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
So you know shits gotten real when you post it on a lifting forum but you guys’ give out good advice so I figured what the hell. Long story short…I like this girl and she REALLY likes me, we’ve had a fairly long past together 9 months and went through some rough shit. I trust her with anything and even though I’ve fucked her over she still trusts me. We’d do anything for each other. I know I’m a huge fucking dick for this but one of the two reasons I don’t wanna be with her is that she’s a little bigger, not fat by any means, just bigger. I’m such a fuck I know, but lemme hear your thoughts.[/quote]
Despite what the “holyier then though” crowd will say…I’ll be honest with you. My wife gained some weight after my 2 kids. I spent allot of time in strip clubs and doing stuff thats bad… I finally got her to hit the gym and I bought her some fake tits… 2yrs down the road she looks the best ever… She found out I wasnt happy with her weight gain when she over heard me bitching to a buddy… It was bad news… At the same time it did spur her to hit the gym and diet… Long story short she will be mad to hear it, but if you want her to get hot again she may need the push… Also if she sees you trying to look sexy or do things top spur more sex she will get it… I’ve had friends divorce women for getting fat… Your a man what you like is what you like… Its awful hard to get a boner with ugly chicks…[/quote]
LOL!
The holier than thou crowd, does get awful defensive of fatties. Not sure why? Maybe some of our resident armchair and professional sociologists can delve into this? (DANGER THIS POST CONTAINS SARCASM)
[quote]orion wrote:
These days, a nice piece of ass might be hard to come by, but a good heart is even more rare, so try to fix the superficial aspects of things before you land with a BPD psycho with an awesome rack due to your own myopic stupidity.
And this is coming from someone who thinks that RUUUUUUUUN, Forrest, RUUUUUN applies to 90 % of all problems with girls. [/quote]
And the fact that you say this makes it so valid.
Sauber 
Every girl has some fucked up thing about her…if she’s just a little chubby as her only flaw, I would consider yourself lucky.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. There are hourglass girls who get called fatties AND there are obese gals who describe themselves as ‘with curves’. Both is bullshit.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
So you know shits gotten real when you post it on a lifting forum but you guys’ give out good advice so I figured what the hell. Long story short…I like this girl and she REALLY likes me, we’ve had a fairly long past together 9 months and went through some rough shit. I trust her with anything and even though I’ve fucked her over she still trusts me. We’d do anything for each other. I know I’m a huge fucking dick for this but one of the two reasons I don’t wanna be with her is that she’s a little bigger, not fat by any means, just bigger. I’m such a fuck I know, but lemme hear your thoughts.[/quote]
Despite what the “holyier then though” crowd will say…I’ll be honest with you. My wife gained some weight after my 2 kids. I spent allot of time in strip clubs and doing stuff thats bad… I finally got her to hit the gym and I bought her some fake tits… 2yrs down the road she looks the best ever… She found out I wasnt happy with her weight gain when she over heard me bitching to a buddy… It was bad news… At the same time it did spur her to hit the gym and diet… Long story short she will be mad to hear it, but if you want her to get hot again she may need the push… Also if she sees you trying to look sexy or do things top spur more sex she will get it… I’ve had friends divorce women for getting fat… Your a man what you like is what you like… Its awful hard to get a boner with ugly chicks…[/quote]
LOL!
The holier than thou crowd, does get awful defensive of fatties. Not sure why? Maybe some of our resident armchair and professional sociologists can delve into this? (DANGER THIS POST CONTAINS SARCASM)
[/quote]
Moral of the story: women have low self esteem so just be an asshole and shame her into looking good for you! 60% of the time it works every time.
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
true, but by today’s screwed up standards she would be considered at least plus size. the solid legs and butts the T-Nation women have don’t fit with todays ideals either. I mean look at the male models that are supposed to be a woman’s dream. do women really want “a six pack of diet soda and a couple of chicken wings” type of male body?[/quote]
This is soo off topic, but the plus sized Marilyn thing annoys me almost as much as the fat = curvy thing (or the word toning) so I don’t care…
She wouldn’t be plus sized by everyday standards today. Her measurements were something like 35-22-35 according to her dressmaker. A size 16 for Lane Bryant is 42-36-44. Marilyn’s measurements are much closer to that of a bikini competitor than a plus sized woman…I’m a little bit shorter than her and although I do not have the same body type, my normal weight range is 125-145 and if I walked into Lane Bryant today, there wouldn’t be a single thing small enough for me to wear. And my measurements are even larger than hers.
At my biggest, I’m about a size 6/medium. And at 120, I had size zeros that were too big. Clothing sizes have changed over the years and they even vary store to store today, but at that size there is no way she’d be close to needing a US size 16 today.
Whose ideals are we talking about here? The ideal body for a fashion model is different from the one you’ll see in People Magazine’s “Hottest Beach Bodies” article (or whatever) and those celebrities with “perfect bodies” are going to look different from a Playboy model or “hot” male athlete. I agree that the typical “perfect bodies” presented in the media are too skinny for my taste, and clothes are absolutely not designed for women that can squat (let alone bench) their body weight, but I don’t think many normal people would say a woman with Marilyn Monroe’s measurements was too fat to be attractive. She may be “Hollywood plus size” (larger than a 00) but she’s hardly the size of an actual plus sized woman today.
And I’ll refrain from commenting on what women consider the ideal male physique…my ideal female physique would most likely be considered “too manly” by a majority of the people on this board so you can only imagine what I think about “hot guys” like David Beckham.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
true, but by today’s screwed up standards she would be considered at least plus size. the solid legs and butts the T-Nation women have don’t fit with todays ideals either. I mean look at the male models that are supposed to be a woman’s dream. do women really want “a six pack of diet soda and a couple of chicken wings” type of male body?[/quote]
This is soo off topic, but the plus sized Marilyn thing annoys me almost as much as the fat = curvy thing (or the word toning) so I don’t care…
She wouldn’t be plus sized by everyday standards today. Her measurements were something like 35-22-35 according to her dressmaker. A size 16 for Lane Bryant is 42-36-44. Marilyn’s measurements are much closer to that of a bikini competitor than a plus sized woman…I’m a little bit shorter than her and although I do not have the same body type, my normal weight range is 125-145 and if I walked into Lane Bryant today, there wouldn’t be a single thing small enough for me to wear. And my measurements are even larger than hers.
At my biggest, I’m about a size 6/medium. And at 120, I had size zeros that were too big. Clothing sizes have changed over the years and they even vary store to store today, but at that size there is no way she’d be close to needing a US size 16 today.
Whose ideals are we talking about here? The ideal body for a fashion model is different from the one you’ll see in People Magazine’s “Hottest Beach Bodies” article (or whatever) and those celebrities with “perfect bodies” are going to look different from a Playboy model or “hot” male athlete. I agree that the typical “perfect bodies” presented in the media are too skinny for my taste, and clothes are absolutely not designed for women that can squat (let alone bench) their body weight, but I don’t think many normal people would say a woman with Marilyn Monroe’s measurements was too fat to be attractive. She may be “Hollywood plus size” (larger than a 00) but she’s hardly the size of an actual plus sized woman today.
And I’ll refrain from commenting on what women consider the ideal male physique…my ideal female physique would most likely be considered “too manly” by a majority of the people on this board so you can only imagine what I think about “hot guys” like David Beckham. [/quote]
I agree with you 100%. And I think what we consider attractive in women falls very closely to the same ideals lol.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
true, but by today’s screwed up standards she would be considered at least plus size. the solid legs and butts the T-Nation women have don’t fit with todays ideals either. I mean look at the male models that are supposed to be a woman’s dream. do women really want “a six pack of diet soda and a couple of chicken wings” type of male body?[/quote]
This is soo off topic, but the plus sized Marilyn thing annoys me almost as much as the fat = curvy thing (or the word toning) so I don’t care…
She wouldn’t be plus sized by everyday standards today. Her measurements were something like 35-22-35 according to her dressmaker. A size 16 for Lane Bryant is 42-36-44. Marilyn’s measurements are much closer to that of a bikini competitor than a plus sized woman…I’m a little bit shorter than her and although I do not have the same body type, my normal weight range is 125-145 and if I walked into Lane Bryant today, there wouldn’t be a single thing small enough for me to wear. And my measurements are even larger than hers.
At my biggest, I’m about a size 6/medium. And at 120, I had size zeros that were too big. Clothing sizes have changed over the years and they even vary store to store today, but at that size there is no way she’d be close to needing a US size 16 today.
Whose ideals are we talking about here? The ideal body for a fashion model is different from the one you’ll see in People Magazine’s “Hottest Beach Bodies” article (or whatever) and those celebrities with “perfect bodies” are going to look different from a Playboy model or “hot” male athlete. I agree that the typical “perfect bodies” presented in the media are too skinny for my taste, and clothes are absolutely not designed for women that can squat (let alone bench) their body weight, but I don’t think many normal people would say a woman with Marilyn Monroe’s measurements was too fat to be attractive. She may be “Hollywood plus size” (larger than a 00) but she’s hardly the size of an actual plus sized woman today.
And I’ll refrain from commenting on what women consider the ideal male physique…my ideal female physique would most likely be considered “too manly” by a majority of the people on this board so you can only imagine what I think about “hot guys” like David Beckham. [/quote]
I agree with you 100%. And I think what we consider attractive in women falls very closely to the same ideals lol.[/quote]
Cindy Phillips FTW.
People in general seem to have super messed up views of what woman (maybe all humans?) should look like. This girl I have an incredible schoolboy crush on is absolutely ripped to shreds everywhere for being too fat, having poor shape, etc. Ridiculous…
[quote]GeneticSynergy9 wrote:
People in general seem to have super messed up views of what woman (maybe all humans?) should look like. This girl I have an incredible schoolboy crush on is absolutely ripped to shreds everywhere for being too fat, having poor shape, etc. Ridiculous…[/quote]
Cute face, nice rack, nothing else. That is why she gets ripped to shreds. As a weight lifter I see a project rather than a masterpiece.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Then again, she might go, end up really hot, and leave him for someone else…[/quote]
This is a very good point. Hot chicks have way more options than guys have. If she loses some bodyfat and gets some muscle, you’re in trouble, hobbs. You won’t have to worry about whether or not to date her because she’ll be gone.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
size 16 and beautiful[/quote]
Marilyn Monroe reportedly weighed between 120 and 140lbs at about 5’5. She had a pretty extreme hourglass shape, but she was far from today’s plus sized 16, like every fat chick likes to claim. [/quote]
true, but by today’s screwed up standards she would be considered at least plus size. the solid legs and butts the T-Nation women have don’t fit with todays ideals either. I mean look at the male models that are supposed to be a woman’s dream. do women really want “a six pack of diet soda and a couple of chicken wings” type of male body?[/quote]
This is soo off topic, but the plus sized Marilyn thing annoys me almost as much as the fat = curvy thing (or the word toning) so I don’t care…
She wouldn’t be plus sized by everyday standards today. Her measurements were something like 35-22-35 according to her dressmaker. A size 16 for Lane Bryant is 42-36-44. Marilyn’s measurements are much closer to that of a bikini competitor than a plus sized woman…I’m a little bit shorter than her and although I do not have the same body type, my normal weight range is 125-145 and if I walked into Lane Bryant today, there wouldn’t be a single thing small enough for me to wear. And my measurements are even larger than hers.
At my biggest, I’m about a size 6/medium. And at 120, I had size zeros that were too big. Clothing sizes have changed over the years and they even vary store to store today, but at that size there is no way she’d be close to needing a US size 16 today.
Whose ideals are we talking about here? The ideal body for a fashion model is different from the one you’ll see in People Magazine’s “Hottest Beach Bodies” article (or whatever) and those celebrities with “perfect bodies” are going to look different from a Playboy model or “hot” male athlete. I agree that the typical “perfect bodies” presented in the media are too skinny for my taste, and clothes are absolutely not designed for women that can squat (let alone bench) their body weight, but I don’t think many normal people would say a woman with Marilyn Monroe’s measurements was too fat to be attractive. She may be “Hollywood plus size” (larger than a 00) but she’s hardly the size of an actual plus sized woman today.
And I’ll refrain from commenting on what women consider the ideal male physique…my ideal female physique would most likely be considered “too manly” by a majority of the people on this board so you can only imagine what I think about “hot guys” like David Beckham. [/quote]
I agree with you 100%. And I think what we consider attractive in women falls very closely to the same ideals lol.[/quote]
Cindy Phillips FTW. [/quote]
Always been a fan of her. Her ass and legs… Amazing. And she wouldn’t feel like I was breaking her.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
So you know shits gotten real when you post it on a lifting forum but you guys’ give out good advice so I figured what the hell. Long story short…I like this girl and she REALLY likes me, we’ve had a fairly long past together 9 months and went through some rough shit. I trust her with anything and even though I’ve fucked her over she still trusts me. We’d do anything for each other. I know I’m a huge fucking dick for this but one of the two reasons I don’t wanna be with her is that she’s a little bigger, not fat by any means, just bigger. I’m such a fuck I know, but lemme hear your thoughts.[/quote]
Despite what the “holyier then though” crowd will say…I’ll be honest with you. My wife gained some weight after my 2 kids. I spent allot of time in strip clubs and doing stuff thats bad… I finally got her to hit the gym and I bought her some fake tits… 2yrs down the road she looks the best ever… She found out I wasnt happy with her weight gain when she over heard me bitching to a buddy… It was bad news… At the same time it did spur her to hit the gym and diet… Long story short she will be mad to hear it, but if you want her to get hot again she may need the push… Also if she sees you trying to look sexy or do things top spur more sex she will get it… I’ve had friends divorce women for getting fat… Your a man what you like is what you like… Its awful hard to get a boner with ugly chicks…[/quote]
LOL!
The holier than thou crowd, does get awful defensive of fatties. Not sure why? Maybe some of our resident armchair and professional sociologists can delve into this? (DANGER THIS POST CONTAINS SARCASM)
[/quote]
Moral of the story: women have low self esteem so just be an asshole and shame her into looking good for you! 60% of the time it works every time.[/quote]
nice sex panther reff, but yeah if shes getting out outa shape & she hasent figured it out yeah tell her… Also if you pay for her hair, gym membership ect she will feel obligated to get hot for you… If that dont work buy some lengerea a size lower then hers… If she bitches you know shes not gonna do her part… If she trys to make the cut sweet that means she cares about your feelings… Look chances are if your here your a meat head so you put time and effort into your looks… If she cant then you gotta do what you gotta do, life is too short
[quote]chobbs wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Are you attracted to her, but worried that your friends might think less of you given that you didn’t pull a thinner chick?[/quote]
Honestly, yes[/quote]
This is the biggest hang up I have with this. I also agree with many here that you have to be attracted to someone for things to work out. He all but said that not being attracted wasn’t the problem. It’s his friends giving him crap about being attracted to her that he’s worried about. That makes it more of an issue with him than with her.
And to the Marilyn Monroe thing. Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn’t Marilyn be like a size 6 or 8 by todays sizes as compared to when she was a 16? I know that my wife complains every time we go shopping because she was always a 6 but she cant order things because some 6’s are huge because so many places practice vanity sizing now that the numbers really mean nothing.
