[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
fuk dat shit[/quote]
Any chance at you letting us know what this is in response to?
I did bench press with my legs/feet raised for about 6 months after having an inguinal hernia op on the lower left side of my abdomen, I felt more comfortable like this. In the long run I went back to feet on floor as I felt it enabled me to push more weight with confidence/stability. My Doc (also a lifter) said to put my feet up on a wall and put my ass as close to the wall as well (kinda like a laying on back in a squat position), this worked well but i had to have 2 training partners to get the bar off the rack for me as I couldn’t reach. So in the end just pulled my legs/feet up to do them myself.
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
I used know an athlete (who now plays for the Philadelphia Eagles) who was on the shorter end of the height spectrum. He literally couldn’t get his feet flat on the ground, so we had him put them up on the bench. He benched in the 350’s. He didn’t hold them in the air or anything, but rather just put them on the bench.
Moral: I think that the strong people in the world are going to end up in the same place, regardless of what variation is used. [/quote]
One question for you: If he would’ve been able to reach the floor, would he have put his feet up?
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I wasn’t really recommending people put their feet up. But to answer your question, no.
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At 5’7" and absolutely no problem getting my feet to the floor on a bench press, I dont believe there is any professional football player that cant get his feet flat on the floor during a bench press.
Unless it’s the tallest bench ever Im not buying it. [/quote]
Alright, I have no reason to lie though. I may have phrased it wrong though. It’s not like his feet whiffed the ground. They touched and he could get them settled if he used a stronger arch. But a lot of times, he just put his feet up. We used mostly submaximal weights, so safety wan’t a huge issue. When and if we maxed, he would put his feet down. Still didn’t have too solid of a platform though.[/quote]
Couldn’t he have put some plates under where his feet would go so he could have a solid platform?
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Yeah. But like I said, the loads primarily consisted of 70% ish 1RM without going to failure. So he was able to keep balance and stay stable just fine. I’d prefer feet on the floor. But I was just giving an example I had of the contrary.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
I used know an athlete (who now plays for the Philadelphia Eagles) who was on the shorter end of the height spectrum. He literally couldn’t get his feet flat on the ground, so we had him put them up on the bench. He benched in the 350’s. He didn’t hold them in the air or anything, but rather just put them on the bench.
Moral: I think that the strong people in the world are going to end up in the same place, regardless of what variation is used. [/quote]
One question for you: If he would’ve been able to reach the floor, would he have put his feet up?
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I wasn’t really recommending people put their feet up. But to answer your question, no.
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At 5’7" and absolutely no problem getting my feet to the floor on a bench press, I dont believe there is any professional football player that cant get his feet flat on the floor during a bench press.
Unless it’s the tallest bench ever Im not buying it. [/quote]
Alright, I have no reason to lie though. I may have phrased it wrong though. It’s not like his feet whiffed the ground. They touched and he could get them settled if he used a stronger arch. But a lot of times, he just put his feet up. We used mostly submaximal weights, so safety wan’t a huge issue. When and if we maxed, he would put his feet down. Still didn’t have too solid of a platform though.[/quote]
Couldn’t he have put some plates under where his feet would go so he could have a solid platform?
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Not sure why, but this just made me laugh. No offense intended Rattler![/quote]
why is that funny??[/quote]
Nothing against the comment at all…I wasn’t making fun of the poster or anything. Don’t you ever just find something random funny? I think it was because everyone seemed to be laying into the guy talking about his short friend, and that question just made me laugh.
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If I’m not mistaken I think meraudermeat does this for bench press. It was a serious suggestion.
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]The Rattler wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]Anthony Mychal wrote:
I used know an athlete (who now plays for the Philadelphia Eagles) who was on the shorter end of the height spectrum. He literally couldn’t get his feet flat on the ground, so we had him put them up on the bench. He benched in the 350’s. He didn’t hold them in the air or anything, but rather just put them on the bench.
Moral: I think that the strong people in the world are going to end up in the same place, regardless of what variation is used. [/quote]
One question for you: If he would’ve been able to reach the floor, would he have put his feet up?
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I wasn’t really recommending people put their feet up. But to answer your question, no.
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At 5’7" and absolutely no problem getting my feet to the floor on a bench press, I dont believe there is any professional football player that cant get his feet flat on the floor during a bench press.
Unless it’s the tallest bench ever Im not buying it. [/quote]
Alright, I have no reason to lie though. I may have phrased it wrong though. It’s not like his feet whiffed the ground. They touched and he could get them settled if he used a stronger arch. But a lot of times, he just put his feet up. We used mostly submaximal weights, so safety wan’t a huge issue. When and if we maxed, he would put his feet down. Still didn’t have too solid of a platform though.[/quote]
Couldn’t he have put some plates under where his feet would go so he could have a solid platform?
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Not sure why, but this just made me laugh. No offense intended Rattler![/quote]
why is that funny??[/quote]
Nothing against the comment at all…I wasn’t making fun of the poster or anything. Don’t you ever just find something random funny? I think it was because everyone seemed to be laying into the guy talking about his short friend, and that question just made me laugh.
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If I’m not mistaken I think meraudermeat does this for bench press. It was a serious suggestion.
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I know it was serious, but it was asked as a question and the answer was an obvious yes, which randomly cracked me up. Are we still talking about this ? haha
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
fuk dat shit[/quote]
Any chance at you letting us know what this is in response to?[/quote]
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
fuk dat shit[/quote]
Any chance at you letting us know what this is in response to?[/quote]
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Yes, yes I am.
I think you’ll be better received if you come up with catchier thread titles.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
I think you’ll be better received if you come up with catchier thread titles.[/quote]
“Is benching with your feet up going to give you the PERFECT BODY or is it going to make your PENIS FALL OFF? Click here to reveal the SHOCKING TRUTH!”
[quote]Anus Bleach wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
I think you’ll be better received if you come up with catchier thread titles.[/quote]
“Is benching with your feet up going to give you the PERFECT BODY or is it going to make your PENIS FALL OFF? Click here to reveal the SHOCKING TRUTH!”[/quote]
spoiler alert
the shocking truth:
wellness2020’s penis giving a 20 minute tutorial on calf stretching
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
but this fatass benches with his feet up.
The background music is epic.
[quote]Deercalf wrote:
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
but this fatass benches with his feet up.
The background music is epic.[/quote]
luckily my days of the commercial gym are long behind me now. now you will pretty much only hear lamb of god in my videos.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
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Poor dude…
Why does one have to be better than the other? Exercises don’t work like that unless there is an objective. There are so many variables that effect the outcome of an exercise. Did anybody consider, the length of someones legs or the height of the bench. If we’re assuming an average on both factors here is a couple of contrasts.
1.stability/instability - being less stable is going to require greater neurological output to orchestrate the movement as you have reduced the size of the surface continuum you are dealing with. Feet down will allow you to use said neurological output on a more local area as opposed to spreading it out globally. (also keeping in mind that perhaps some people may be more stable in hip/spinal flexion…so many variables)
- Fibre alignment- hip flexion will likely lead to lumbar flexion thus tilting the ribcage, this “tilt” will effect a few things. 2 big ones for me are this. The pec has a greater density of fibres in the inferior “compartment” these inferior fibres also have better alignment of fibre/force when the ribcage is tilted via lumbar extension. This will also effect the available range at the shoulder joint"s". This ROM will be greater in a neutral amount of rotation, with int. rotation/GH abduction there is going to be significantly less range in that plane of motion.
I could go about this forever, we can talk about arthrokinematic interdependancy alone forever and not draw one conclusion. There is no such thing as a good or bad exercise, or a better exercise. When you say such things you have an opinion on an exercise, when you have an opinion on an exercise you can’t be objective, when you’re not objective I don’t “buy” what you’re selling because the exercise serves one purpose now…to make you feel better about yourself…
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
There is no such thing as a good or bad exercise, or a better exercise. [/quote]
Bad exercise:
Name one good reason for doing silly shit like that? Apart from wanting to injure yourself.
Check the related vids for more bad exercises. p90x2 is a comedy goldmine of nonsensical “functional” training bs.
[quote]Anus Bleach wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
There is no such thing as a good or bad exercise, or a better exercise. [/quote]
Bad exercise:
Name one good reason for doing silly shit like that? Apart from wanting to injure yourself.
Check the related vids for more bad exercises. p90x2 is a comedy goldmine of nonsensical “functional” training bs.[/quote]
Maybe he is trying to injure himself. In which case it is appropriate. You’re missing the point. You have no idea why people are doing what they’re doing, and if you do and say it’s bad it means you have an opinion on it and can’t be objective. It’s not bad, there are just more effective choices.
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
There is no such thing as a better exercise.[/quote]
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
there are just more effective choices.[/quote]
same thing, no?