Feel Better on Less Frequency/Higher One Time Dose?

I’ve been following his thread. Very interesting.

And honestly, is anyone surprised? The body wasn’t made to handle supra doses, which, on TRT, most of us produce.

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I think you mean inject or consume. On TRT, the body is producing little (more like no) testosterone.

Surprise surprise. Someone call the TOT hotline! This can’t be. Hopefully Danny/Team TOT can send an investigation unit out immediately and get to the bottom of this.

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Yeah I wouldn’t call that a win for the waiting game fanatics, more of common sense that with less T will simply come less side effects. The dude is just lucky he does really need that little of T, the injection amount I mean.

As stated before it’s a whole other issue if your body is over whelmed with high E2 for example and you are trying to force your body to “get used to it”.

Lol and of course Enackers liked Danny’s post haha.

Great advice. This is what I did years ago, dropped everything but test, and slowly titrate the dose and add/remove items after at least 8 weeks of use and lab work. Wish I had done that from the beginning, would have saved me 2 years

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You and I are similar, in that we’ve tried many protocols, none of which has proven sustainable. For myself, I know it seems I’m all over the place from high doses to daily injections to the AI experiment. As @dextermorgan reminded me, pick a protocol and give it several months to either prove that it works or it doesn’t.

Last year, I believe, there was a long thread about 10 mg, daily, which generated many comments and critiques. I’ll commit to 50 mg, IM, weekly, for the next three months, simply because I don’t know what else to do. I hope I’m positively surprised, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m disappointed. For all I know, maybe I’d need six months! I’ve got serious issues in my life that I must attend to and I don’t want to add obsessing about whether or not my weekly T shot is going to work. I’ll just do it.

Produced, after the body deesterfies the cyp. HAHAHA!!

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PLEASE keep us posted on how your respond.

We’re ALL guinea pigs basically.

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Will do. If it works, I know my urologist will be glad to hear it!.

So you are going to try 50mg weekly?

Close enough :slight_smile:

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In the thread on 10 mg, daily, Danny repeatedly stated, irrespective of the above statement, that whatever dose works is the best dose, or something to that effect. He wasn’t pushing one protocol over another. He saw those who do well on low dose, as well as men like him who do 240 mg a week, or even higher, as outliers. And I agree with the theory of cellular resistance, whether it’s for testosterone, thyroid and even vitamin D. There are abstracts that address the issue of cellular resistance. Maybe the response to blasting on 400 or 500 mg and experiencing restoration of erectile function is that super high dose overcoming cellular resistance.

Danny is a good guy. He means well and has the best intentions for sure.

He went out of his way to reach out to me to suggest some protocols. They involved higher doses, and didn’t work. BUT, his intentions were good for sure. And he doesn’t know me other than my persona on here.

Good dude all the way.

Check out one of his latest threads on Reddit, he goes as far as to clearly state “supraphysiological levels are needed”

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Started yesterday. There’s an abundance of many opinions as well of actual success stories, whether IM or subq of varying doses, topicals, pellets. @highpull is the resident physician with much experience which he presents. Again, trying 50 mg, weekly, simply because it’s working for some men. I’d be a fool to ignore it. The proof, positive or negative, will be waiting for me.

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I would agree it is not just Danny who is touting supra levels. Whether they are really needed or if cellular resistance is a thing remains to be determined.

Talking with a provider who has seen many, there are lots of dudes who seem to do well (little to no adverse affects) running supra long term. It’s just a bad blanket suggestion to give the ignorant newbies the false hope that running 150+ mg/week + of Test Ester is the way to go. I understand Danny is passionate and means well. But the road to hell sometimes paved with really good intentions.

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Agree. He and I exchanged a few emails a couple of years ago. He’s thoughtful and is passionate about improving the health and well being of men.

Best of luck to you sir, I am sure you can make a lower dose work. How low have gone in the past? Anything lower than 100mg? I just wouldn’t want you to crash at 50mg a week if say 70mg a week was an option to you.

I hope @highpull doesn’t get annoyed that I keep referring to him. I believe he said the majority of the men he treats are taking between 140 and 200 mg in a weekly dose. We all can have our opinions but he’s a physician, as well as someone on TRT. And I see him to be open minded and fair when rendering an opinion.

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I’ve done the 10 mg, daily, 15 mg, daily, both IM. The latter I did for five months. Didn’t do anything for me, though my TT was 750 and free T was 192. E2: 29. It can be argued that 105 mg weekly was too high, if I subscribe to the ‘less is more’ school. I don’t know. Maybe, for me, dailies aren’t the way to go; that I need a spike, then decline. That’s why I’m doing one weekly injection. Since the guy on excel settled on, actually, 52 mg, weekly, for me, 50 is just easier to draw into the syringe.

Yeah I remember you saying you did 100mg once a week and felt off towards the end of the week. You are coming off a protocol which included AI so you may be ok to lower the dose drastically and immediately. I was thinking before you did the 100mg once a week you, it would depend on your old protocol, you may have still had higher E2 hence the off feeling towards the end of the week. Just brain storming.