I agree
Damn dude on point right there it really does feel like something is missing, we know it it’s there but there is like a broken wire not firing 100% in the last part of the process.
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Not a dumb question. You’re a lawyer and when you’re taking a deposition, you probe to establish the facts to bolster your case. Every word or phrase counts and could make the difference in the outcome of a case. And when you do discovery, you might or do find a piece of information that resolves an inconsistency and corroborates what you or your client suspected.
Just regular generic rx tablets. I like to experiment and I’m curious about E2 and the HPA, as well as the HPGA. My thought was that taking it sublingual will impact the Hypothalamic Pituitary Axis, as well as the gonodal axis. I didn’t take any today, per my protocol of MWF. No erections, moderate libido/desire. Tomorrow, another tablet. If I find the same upregulation, perhaps I need to do .25 daily. If daily works, I’ll need to do labs, weekly or twice a month, as well as get a DEXA scan. My urologist is always interested in my experiments.
Off topic; Are you still with Ms. G cup? If it’s a painful question, I apologize.
Nope.
I found the most STUNNING woman i’ve been dating. C cup, but way better shape. haha.
Way to go!!!
I too have gotten lax with my protocol and am doing every 2-3 days as opposed to daily. When I can stick to doing daily shots and keep it consistent I feel the best but the current every 2-3 days hasn’t been terrible either. My life is a lot more stressful currently so it’s harder to tell what is causing what honestly. For me sleep is the main differentiating factor between feeling ok and feeling great. The perfect TRT protocol won’t make any difference if you aren’t getting decent rest on a consistent basis. Especially the older you get.
Hope you are surviving and thriving brother
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That’s my problem with higher doses (T? E2? Both?) is I don’t sleep well. Always wondered if things would be fixed if I simply slept better. I don’t know how some don’t have their sleep affected.
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I slept really well on high doses (875 mg/wk). It kinda makes me want to try a bit higher for my cruise / TRT for a bit and see what happens.
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My sleep gets disrupted if TT/e2 (I think it’s e2) is too high. I’ve had super high TT and crashed e2 and not felt the same way, so I’m guessing it’s not the T. It’s like an amped up, racy kind of feeling. Not quite anxiety, but impossible to fall asleep.
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At 72 I think you’ve earned yourself a blast or two!
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Yeah same for me if i analyze as we shared our experiences that as soon as we pop an AI we get to finally sleep.
And it’s mainly due to that anxiety, palpitations, pressure feeling.
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I can only infer that you didn’t experience any negatives, only positives/ That’s freaking amazing.
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Yeah. If not now, when?
Well, not much for perceivable sides aside from blood pressure. That was pretty elevated, and I started a BP med a few weeks in. I was also on something for acid reflux and finasteride and RU58841 to keep my hair looking good.
A guy that used to use this forum was close to 70. He would double his trt dose and add in 20 mg of anavar a day. I think that’s a pretty good approach if one was going to use more later on in life. I think he did that for two 8 week blocks a year.
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Have been doing daily .25 anastrozole, sublingual, for five days. Taking a weekend break. What I’ve been experiencing are more nocturnal erections. One was quite strong, but even the fleeting ones tell me that the ai is doing something positive. Haven’t experienced nocturnal erections for several years and zero morning wood.
As I’ve also stated, in the evening, around 10 pm, get one decent erection. I rub one out and fall asleep. My wife and I sleep separately because we both have sleep problems and now she’s ill, so no possibility of reviving our love life. It wasn’t that good even when she was interested. 
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Woah 0.25 everyday? I am sure you are starting to figure out your own body but if that’s a new regimen just be careful. Glad to hear you are doing better though and have found out that the E2 loving ways just isn’t for all of us.
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I did something similar when I first started TRT. My experience ended badly because I didn’t have enough knowledge at the time to realize I had cut my estrogen levels to basically zero. It took me quite a while before I realized it as the forum narrative at that time heavily pushed using AI’s. My personal experience with them was that it was basically impossible to find a regime that (longterm) made me feel better than not using them at all. AI’s are akin to a nuke. Make sure whatever issue you are attempting to correct deserves the use of a nuke because the fallout can be catastrophic and take longer than you’d like to correct. If I could go back in time and personally advise myself (when I was still new to Testosterone and not feeling like I was where I wanted to be), I’d try to convince me to use all other less lethal means to combat the issues I was feeling first and rule them out as possible fixes before using a nuke.
The hardest thing for me to come to terms with was that most things TRT don’t happen instantly and even small changes can take months before you feel their full result. It’s very hard to be patient enough to give whatever change you make enough time to really know if you are going in the right or wrong direction. Without that patience you can get stuck in a never ending circle of constantly chasing and creating symptoms without ever giving yourself enough time to know what works. I would recommend to anyone that isn’t feeling great and has tried multiple fixes, to go back to a baseline dose, stay there for at least a couple months and then adjust that dose in small increments until you find a dose that has you feeling as close to ideal as possible. Once there, if you still fell the need to try auxiliary drugs like an AI you can do so with better precision and with a better understanding of what you are feeling and how each thing effects you.
Sorry for the long post. @mip1950 not necessarily directed at you just my own personal thoughts on the subject in general.
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I agree with @kazuya_mishima1 on this one. I would be careful with that. Get some blood work. I think some guys can feel great for a limited amount of time with crashed E2 before it catches up with them.
FWIW, on the blast of 250 mg EOD (875 mg/wk), I was dosing adex at 0.25 mg EOD, and E2 was roughly double the top of the range. I think 0.25 EOD on my current regimine (175 mg/wk) would have a high probability of crashing E2.
If you are experimenting with Adex, start low, test (blood and how you feel), and adjust. Repeat that process until you are happy. You may do fine on that regime, but a lot will end up crashing E2 (they might feel better before they feel worse too).
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Absolutely, thank you. For a young man, you have a lot of hard earned experience and wisdom to share. The AI experiment came from post on excelmale.com from a man who tried every dosing protocol and never felt the benefits of testosterone, He was on 30 mg, IM, daily. Working with his NP, she started him on .25 mg of anastrozole, increased the frequency over time. After some weeks, the dose was increased to .5 mg, once, then twice, then three times a week. It was at that last dosage that he began to feel good and experience sexual function. Eventually, he was up to .5 mg, daily. Other men found success with .25 twice a week, .5 once a week and 1 mg once a week.
I enter into this experiment with trepidations. Ironically on excel, today, another guy recounted his various protocols and after 12 years, found 52 mg of T, once a week, restored his sexual function, sleep, mood and energy. That took 12 weeks. Truly, the more I read, the more I find myself at the crossroads. Having patience, no matter what protocol, is the hardest part of it. We all want to see results, quickly. The endocrine system didn’t get the memo. It’s like turning a supertanker. Doesn’t happen like turning the steering wheel of your car or truck, LOL. Perhaps, lower my T from 100 mg to 50 mg,weekly, drop the AI, and wait.
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I still say this time game is a big gamble and I am skeptical as to how bad some of these guys really felt during the “getting used to it” phase. Some of us tried for a year or more with no luck. It’s one thing like with the guy you mentioned who went lower dose, it’s a whole other thing though when you are pushing levels to the upper limits especially estrogen.