Fat, Out Of Shape, Cops!

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[quote]Bootsie wrote:
Relax, its called being proud of your city. No one wants the one picture stereotyping fat cops to be of the city they plan on working in. maybe it was just misleading to me, if so, my bad. Other than that, hoosier daddy, your right there are alot of fat cops in nyc, i guess thats a byproduct of having over 47k cops.

other than that, i agree its a disgrace to see fat cops out there who dont take pride in their appearance or the badge they wear.[/quote]

So you don’t feel bad, here are some non-NYC fat cops.

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And another one. This one is a Springfield cop.

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[quote]LoneLobo wrote:
I do, for the record, think police should have to be in shape. I just don’t think it’s the fault of liberal government.[/quote]

They either enforce testing requirements or they don’t. In this case they don’t. How is that not their fault?

Where is YOUR logic?

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There should be testing and fitness requirements in all public safety fields.

In my job, it’s unlawful for me to go armed even though I have a permit to carry concealed in 26 states.

Peoples lives depend on me being fit enough and healthy enough to carry their fat asses out of bad situations they put themselves into when they go have heart attacks, strokes, try to get a darwin award…whatever.

I also have to be able to carry the equipment, and drag my jelly belly partner along too.

If there were fitness requirements - it would be easier for all of us.

When I get into a bad situation where my life is endangered by some nut with a weapon or whatever my arsenal is empty handed self defense, a flashlight, or slick talking to settle them down. If a cop is needed to save my life - I certainly hope it is one who is fit, strong, healthy, and juiced up enough to handle the situation. Just like if he get’s hurt he wants me to be big and strong enough to carry him to safety. (or her).

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if your on foot you could probly just run away from all the fat cops if your in trouble.

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Police work has gotten less physical over the years.

Remeber the good old days, when you had a wheel gun and a nightstick, and a prayer?

Now technology has made police work a little bit safer. They have tasers, extendable batons, mace, high capicity autoloaders. They are issuing ar 15’s and mp 5’s , when they used to give you a remington 12 guage. Cops have so many more resources now adays then the used to. I am not saying that technology has contributed to declining police fitness, but I think it has removed some of the pressure to be fit, even though it shouldn’t have.

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[quote]UB07 wrote:
pbody03 wrote:
I don’t understand why anyone pursuing a career in this field would allow themselves to get so outta shape. For some desk jockeys that may not be as big an issue …

2 thoughts on this

1)It seems inefficient that a police officer is doing the job of a secretary since police are better compensated. perhaps if officers were more fit they could be back on the streets in a more hands on role instead of behind a desk.

  1. If an officer does have this assignment being obese is still not a good thing for anyone. Insureance premiums rise, sick days increase, energy levels go down… THis is costly for tax payers, and unhealthy for police officers.
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I agree with you on both points. If anyone is interested in their health they shouldn’t allow themselves to be overweight and outta shape. Cops or otherwise,obesity is costing us all.

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[quote]Bootsie wrote:
Coldiron wrote:
Bootsie wrote:

Bootsie,

Vindicated! I take back my prior comment. But, your screen name is still freakin’ me out.

haha fair enough. I picked it when i was still in high school and my favorite college basketball player was bootsie thornton of St. Johns. too bad he didnt go anywhere so no ones ever heard of him[/quote]

Caligula means little boot. Okay yes that was random.

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[quote]pbody03 wrote:
I don’t understand why anyone pursuing a career in this field would allow themselves to get so outta shape. For some desk jockeys that may not be as big an issue but for guys on the street where your poor condition may cost you your life,hmmm.

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I don’t see being out of shape costing na officer his life any time soon. If a suspect is fleeing and has a head start they will probably just call for back-up and if the suspect is directly threatening them a bullet travels faster than even Crossfitt’s most competent Sally could run. In what situation would this cost an officer his life?

*I am not supporting the cops in this thing, I just don’t think its a life threatening issue for the cops.

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I’ve been reading this thread and want to add that it’s not limited to the cops. Go to the Fire Dept. Instructors Conference in Indy and you will think you landed at a competitive eating convention. No shit.

I have worked with firefighters that had to have extenders for their airpacks, just to get them to fit. What’s especially sad, is that most firefighters can work out while on duty!

As far as the union thing, my local is adamantly opposed to any kind of written fitness standard. Hell, I once offered that we should be able to at least pass an agility test yearly, and was told by my union president that he would never let that happen. I replied that I thought the victims deserved more, he repled with “yea i know, but I can’t let people lose their jobs”. Victims lose.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
pbody03 wrote:
I don’t understand why anyone pursuing a career in this field would allow themselves to get so outta shape. For some desk jockeys that may not be as big an issue but for guys on the street where your poor condition may cost you your life,hmmm.

I don’t see being out of shape costing na officer his life any time soon. If a suspect is fleeing and has a head start they will probably just call for back-up and if the suspect is directly threatening them a bullet travels faster than even Crossfitt’s most competent Sally could run. In what situation would this cost an officer his life?

*I am not supporting the cops in this thing, I just don’t think its a life threatening issue for the cops.
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That bullet may not travel at all after a wrestling match, which sometimes happens. Being a cop is a physical job and sometimes they have to get very physical with offenders. Shit a porky cop just might keel over after blowing a gasket during a foot pursuit. I know if I was a cop I’d wanna be in tip top shape.

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Also, I think it’s important to add that the weaklings are just as unsafe as the fatties. I work with men and women that are so weak that they would struggle to drag the family chihuaha out of a structure. Oh but they’ll run on that treadmill for an hour. literally.

And I’ll say this, some of the women I work with passed the agility test on their tits alone which pisses me off to no extent. Last shift, I worked with a 102lb cutie who can’t even muster the strength to start a saw. This shortchanges the taxpayer who is paying for a bona fide rescuer.

I remember when I took the physical agility test for one of my local city police departments, there were literally two sets of standards for the men and the women. If we’re applying for the same job, shouldn’t the same standard apply? Truly pathetic.

Disclaimer
In no way am I implying that women do not belong in the fire service. I’ve always said, it’s not about the gender, it’s about the job. period. I have worked with some fine women firefighters who can hold their own and then some on the job.

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[quote]bigflamer wrote:
my local is adamantly opposed to any kind of written fitness standard. Hell, I once offered that we should be able to at least pass an agility test yearly, and was told by my union president that he would never let that happen. I replied that I thought the victims deserved more, he repled with “yea i know, but I can’t let people lose their jobs”. Victims lose.[/quote]

Very sad. I’ve been trying to get some physical standards going in our Emergency Medical System and everyone opposes it, the director, assistant director, county manager, county commissioners…everyone. They think I should oppose it too because I have MS and will eventually be a cripple. Hell, when I can’t perform the essential functions of my job - it’s time to leave. Too bad there are “able bodied” people who can’t perform those essential functions as well as I can. And I’ve spent 3 years busting my ass to stay out of a wheelchair…I guess that’s what gave me more motivation than the others have…the day I couldn’t walk changed me. Now I’m in the best shape of my life - and in better shape than any of them except a couple of the very young ones who are runners…too bad they don’t understand about resistance training and strength too.

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[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Also, I think it’s important to add that the weaklings are just as unsafe as the fatties. I work with men and women that are so weak that they would struggle to drag the family chihuaha out of a structure. Oh but they’ll run on that treadmill for an hour. literally.

And I’ll say this, some of the women I work with passed the agility test on their tits alone which pisses me off to no extent. Last shift, I worked with a 102lb cutie who can’t even muster the strength to start a saw. This shortchanges the taxpayer who is paying for a bona fide rescuer.

I remember when I took the physical agility test for one of my local city police departments, there were literally two sets of standards for the men and the women. If we’re applying for the same job, shouldn’t the same standard apply? Truly pathetic.

Disclaimer
In no way am I implying that women do not belong in the fire service. I’ve always said, it’s not about the gender, it’s about the job. period. I have worked with some fine women firefighters who can hold their own and then some on the job.[/quote]

Hey man, I’m in complete agreement with you here. I do think they belong in Emergency services - Fire, Rescue, EMS, LE…however they are worthless if they can’t lift their end of the stretcher, pull their own hose, handle the hurst tool, or tackle a big crazy guy and keep him down. Same goes for the 110 pound man that can’t do any of that as for the 110 pound woman.

Same physical standards for the small/weak, big/fat, old/slow, man/woman…Like I said before - if you can’t do the job - you don’t belong there.

The bad thing is it’s generally their own fault that they can’t do the job. They choose to eat the wrong foods, they choose to not run, they choose to not lift - hell, even crossfit workouts would be wonderful for them. Oh, they can’t do those either, simply because they choose to NOT be in good shape.

As I’ve said, I once couldn’t walk. Now I’m the most fit in our entire system…I don’t like excuses.