[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Do you really think fat people are costing you any more money than drug addicts when it comes to health care costs? What about women who get pregnant? What about babies born with birth defects? What about people who get in car accidents? What about…
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Maybe not per capita, but last time I checked fat about 45% of the nation. Don’t tell me drug addicts and injured is what composed the other 55%.
I don’t act biased against people unless they are asking for it. I may have my oppinions, but whoever started the NAANFA thing is the kind of person ruining people’s health, making them believe that is a woman who is a 200 pound whale is still healthy and sexy. GET OVER YOURSELF.
You aren’t helthy and you sure as hell aren’t sexy.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
Don’t get me wrong I don’t applaud fat people. I try not to condemn them either, as my feelings should have no impact on their lifestyle decisions- just as their feelings should have no impact on mine. There are so many other worse things in this world than being fat.
I think you’re missing the point. And if America were actually a free country you would be right. The problem is that as we encroach closer and closer upon universal health care, who do you think is costing us our tax dollars, the healthy or the obese?
Fat people are getting disability payments…because they are FAT. Fat people are the reason that draconian laws on trans fats used in cooking are being pressed upon the American people. Fat people cost us our tax dollars and get anti-freedom laws passed against us.
Again, if we were actually free, then fat people can get fat and die and it wouldn’t hurt anything but my eyes. But in the United Socialist States of America it just doesn’t work that way.
mike
Do you really think fat people are costing you any more money than drug addicts when it comes to health care costs? What about women who get pregnant? What about babies born with birth defects? What about people who get in car accidents? What about…
The problem I have with your argument is you’re healthy- you are a fairweather complainer about tax dollars being used for healthcare. What if you got really sick, even by something natural and out of your hands (cancer for example)? Would you still be complaining or would you be grateful others are paying taxes so you can live? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.[/quote]
Are you seriously comparing cancer victims to people who are fat due to lifestyle choices? If he got sick, it wouldn’t be because he is fat, that’s exactly the argument he is making.
People see their tax dollars healing the TRULY sick, the unfortunate cancer patients, and the victims of drunk driving accidents, and they see that as a justifiable use of their tax dollars. Someone going to the hospital for gastric bypass because they ate their arteries full of TFA’s is not even in the same realm.
[quote]red04 wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
Don’t get me wrong I don’t applaud fat people. I try not to condemn them either, as my feelings should have no impact on their lifestyle decisions- just as their feelings should have no impact on mine. There are so many other worse things in this world than being fat.
I think you’re missing the point. And if America were actually a free country you would be right. The problem is that as we encroach closer and closer upon universal health care, who do you think is costing us our tax dollars, the healthy or the obese?
Fat people are getting disability payments…because they are FAT. Fat people are the reason that draconian laws on trans fats used in cooking are being pressed upon the American people. Fat people cost us our tax dollars and get anti-freedom laws passed against us.
Again, if we were actually free, then fat people can get fat and die and it wouldn’t hurt anything but my eyes. But in the United Socialist States of America it just doesn’t work that way.
mike
Do you really think fat people are costing you any more money than drug addicts when it comes to health care costs? What about women who get pregnant? What about babies born with birth defects? What about people who get in car accidents? What about…
The problem I have with your argument is you’re healthy- you are a fairweather complainer about tax dollars being used for healthcare. What if you got really sick, even by something natural and out of your hands (cancer for example)? Would you still be complaining or would you be grateful others are paying taxes so you can live? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Are you seriously comparing cancer victims to people who are fat due to lifestyle choices? If he got sick, it wouldn’t be because he is fat, that’s exactly the argument he is making.
People see their tax dollars healing the TRULY sick, the unfortunate cancer patients, and the victims of drunk driving accidents, and they see that as a justifiable use of their tax dollars. Someone going to the hospital for gastric bypass because they ate their arteries full of TFA’s is not even in the same realm.[/quote]
QFT
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Wow the sheer number of bigots and hypocrites on this site astounds me. With all of the negative stereotypes associated with bodybuilding you would think we could all relate a little. I guess perspective is lost on most people nowadays.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t applaud fat people. I try not to condemn them either, as my feelings should have no impact on their lifestyle decisions- just as their feelings should have no impact on mine. There are so many other worse things in this world than being fat.[/quote]
…I’ve never seen a bigot on this site, personally…
I’d rather see someone who is fat but not morbidly obese than a stupid person.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
By 2015, more people will be fat than not fat:
'Fat' could become 'normal' in America by 2015 | Daily Mail Online [/quote]
Nice to know I’m ahead of my time!
You can add me to the list of T-members who dislike fat people. Before I get attacked, let me defend my position.
First, did you know that obesity was directly related to more than 112,000 deaths in the US in 2000? In addition, "according to a study of national costs attributed to both overweight (BMI 25â¿¿29.9) and obesity (BMI greater than 30), medical expenses accounted for 9.1 percent of total U.S. medical expenditures in 1998 and may have reached as high as $78.5 billion ($92.6 billion in 2002 dollars) (Finkelstein, Fiebelkorn, and Wang, 2003).
Approximately half of these costs were paid by Medicaid and Medicare." (this according to the CDC)
Please keep in mind that these statistics are from 7 and 9 years ago, respectively. Things have gotten dramatically worse since then and there is no sign that things are turning around…if this isn’t a serious (but preventable) epidemic, then I don’t know what is.
Now my issue is not with the APPEARANCE of overweight people, my issue is with the ATTITUDE of obese people. And this doesn’t just pertain to fat people, this is a wide-sweeping issue across the country: the feeling that ‘I don’t have to take care of my health, my family or my finances…if I screw up the government will bail me out’.
From welfare to health insurance costs to drug rehabilitation programs, this country (and it’s taxpayers, including me) pays far too much money on those not willing to take care of themselves or their dependants.
Now certainly there are exceptions and I would never say that something like welfare or health-relted programs be eliminated; simply that people are taking advantage of these programs and it’s led to a country of ignorant, fat, lazy and unaccountable people who are fed by those who work their asses off to keep things balanced in their own lives.
Yeah, I expect to be called a bigot, but quite simply I don’t care…I know how I feel, and I’m perfectly comfortable with it.
(stepping down from my high horse) I apologize for the rant, but this is an issue that really pisses me off.
[quote]Magnate wrote:
http://www.naafa.org/documents/policies/feederism.html
"NAAFA ADVOCATES:
* That all bodies, of all sizes, are joyous and that individuals of all sizes can and should expect and demand respect from sexual partners for their bodies just as they are."
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I’m two weeks late on this, I know, but I just wanted to point out to NAAFA that this is circular logic. Who the hell is going to have sex with fat people except other fat people? So anyone who doesn’t respect their overweight partner is a hypocrite.
[I’m a bad person, I know]
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
Don’t get me wrong I don’t applaud fat people. I try not to condemn them either, as my feelings should have no impact on their lifestyle decisions- just as their feelings should have no impact on mine. There are so many other worse things in this world than being fat.
I think you’re missing the point. And if America were actually a free country you would be right. The problem is that as we encroach closer and closer upon universal health care, who do you think is costing us our tax dollars, the healthy or the obese?
Fat people are getting disability payments…because they are FAT. Fat people are the reason that draconian laws on trans fats used in cooking are being pressed upon the American people. Fat people cost us our tax dollars and get anti-freedom laws passed against us.
Again, if we were actually free, then fat people can get fat and die and it wouldn’t hurt anything but my eyes. But in the United Socialist States of America it just doesn’t work that way.
mike[/quote]
Hate to break it to you, but the obesity crisis is produced socially, just the same as health care is [whether it’s universal or private]. Each individual American might choose to go McD’s, but that doesn’t explain why so many millions of us [them] go every single day. Obesity rates of the type we’re seeing now are produced on a scale far greater than the individual’s.
I hate how some fat males and females will spend 100$ on a trendy haircut, 500$ on an outfit, have shiny watches wear tons of makeup be all trimmed and plucked but they are still fucking fat. what a waste of money. could have spent that on a PT or a gym membership. or some fucking protein powder and creatine.
yet here i am dressing like a fucking hobo in 3$ tshirts and havn’t cut my hair in months and i still look 10x better than them because my ass can crack walnuts and my upper body fills out a medium t quite tightly.
especially the fat girls. who spend so much god damn time trying to attract males with all their jewelery and stupid dinky purses. i used to think maybe it was because they were lacking knowledge. but i have time and time again given them berardis 7 tips etc, and they simply say that its too hard to stop drinking fucking triple triple coffees all day and ice cream at 2am to ease the tears they shed from being FAT
[quote]schultzie wrote:
I hate how some fat males and females will spend 100$ on a trendy haircut, 500$ on an outfit, have shiny watches wear tons of makeup be all trimmed and plucked but they are still fucking fat. what a waste of money. could have spent that on a PT or a gym membership. or some fucking protein powder and creatine.
yet here i am dressing like a fucking hobo in 3$ tshirts and havn’t cut my hair in months and i still look 10x better than them because my ass can crack walnuts and my upper body fills out a medium t quite tightly.
especially the fat girls. who spend so much god damn time trying to attract males with all their jewelery and stupid dinky purses. i used to think maybe it was because they were lacking knowledge. but i have time and time again given them berardis 7 tips etc, and they simply say that its too hard to stop drinking fucking triple triple coffees all day and ice cream at 2am to ease the tears they shed from being FAT[/quote]
I’ll bet those same fat people don’t dig up old threads just so they can post their own crazy-sounding rants though.
Fat body builders
Fat powerlifters
Fat football players
Fat MMA fighters
Fat soldiers
Fat personal trainers
Fat is everywhere.
because they’re too busy being FAT
I still think it’s funny how some people thought that CaliLaw was making a racial comment with his thread title.
[quote]conner wrote:
I still think it’s funny how some people thought that CaliLaw was making a racial comment with his thread title.[/quote]
Not everyone’s gay enough to understand fashion allusions.
[quote]sen say wrote:
conner wrote:
I still think it’s funny how some people thought that CaliLaw was making a racial comment with his thread title.
Not everyone’s gay enough to understand fashion allusions.[/quote]
I guess that is why it was quite clear to you.
[quote]slim tim wrote:
I guess that is why it was quite clear to you.
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That is why it was quite clear to me? What? What does that mean? I’m trying to ignore for the moment that ‘quite’ is a pretty gay word to use, so I can focus on this…I don’t get it…oh wait…I said it wasn’t clear to everyone because they didn’t get the fashion allusion because they’re not gay enough and Slim Tim is saying that is why it was clear to me? So what Slim Tim is saying…is…what…dammit what is he saying??? Oh…man…he’s saying I am gay because I understood the Subject didn’t refer to race, but fashion…omg…too fucking funny…that Slim Tim is one clever mutherfucker. ha!
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