Fast Food Bulking

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[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I don’t dispute that a caloric surplus has to be achieved, I just question the benefit of a large number of those calories coming from a fast food restaurant.

As I asked Crowdhater earlier, if you have two meals, both providing 750 kcal, 48g protein, 43g fat and 43g carbohydrates, which do you suppose will be more anabolic? The grilled steak and sweet potatoes with avocado, tomato and spinach salad, or the double quarter pounder with cheese, and why?

Is there any benefit to eating cheap, easy, low-quality food other than the fact that it’s cheap and easy?

It’s easier to bang syphilitic crack whores than pick up quality women, too, but I wouldn’t recommend it. [/quote]

Agree on all points.

The only other “benefit” to fast food I can think of is that it’s hyper palatable and much more calorie dense than whole food. However, I don’t think anyone here is saying you should eat this stuff daily.

I don’t want to speak for crowdhater, but I think he was speaking to the fact it is difficult to consistently consume large quantities of whole foods. It becomes especially difficult when you stall out and may have to adjust your calories up due to stalling.

The purpose of this thread was to list macro dense fast food options. Everyone should know fast food makes you fat and gives you cancer, but we’re all adults here and “lol, you eat like poop, y u do that” isn’t helping anyone (not saying you said this).[/quote]

I know, and I admit, I love me some Chipotle and In-N-Out Burger and Me-N-Ed’s pizza. There’s also a place in town here that makes the best barbecued tri-tip sandwich in the known universe. This is not to say that I frequent these places often, and I do put eating at Taco Bell or McDonalds right up there with eating out a syphilitic crack whore.

A fat syphilitic crack whore.

But hey, to each his own.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
…and then diet it all off again to get back up on that podium.

Not, of course, that his body could do this without a little “help”.

And this kind of thing is not by any means sustainable. [/quote]

Who is that? Did he post here at some point, a long time ago?

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Lee Priest.

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Geeze, now I feel like a douche. I haven’t seen a picture of him in ages though.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Actually, I notice there are In-N-Outs in Scottsdale, Tempe and Chandler. So if you live anywhere near these cities, you are in luck. [/quote]
But not in Phoenix :frowning: I forgot how cheap their prices are. thnx for suggestion

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
And back to the OP’s question, just go to In-N-Out and order a cheeseburger with as many patties as you want.

Yes, pay your money and they will make you an abomination with 100 patties and 100 slices of American cheese.

This is called a 100x100, and it will cost you about a hundred dollars, but if you are less ambitious you may specify any integer. The 3x3 is about the limit of protein usability unless you happen to be on test cyp or something.

Not currently living in a state that has In-N-Out burger?

Too bad. [/quote]

In n Out no longer does this. The highest they go up to is a 4x4.[/quote]

What? Sheesh. What is the world coming to?

Seriously, though, a 4x4 has nearly 70 grams of protein and over a thousand calories. Not bad for five bucks and change.
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Thread winner! srs

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[quote]spk wrote:
u guys eat like crap… why not eat healthy all the time? [/quote]
Define healthy. I don’t see anything unhealthy about my diet.

How do you eat and what are your results?

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.

[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.

Don’t do a fast food bulk.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.

pls end thread.[/quote]

You don’t have to elaborate.

Christian Thibaudeau already did.

For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:

  1. “Bulking” is kinda dumb.
  2. Bulking on junk food is even kinda dumber.
    [/quote]
    I remember Thibaudeau talking about his diet somewhere and he said that it’s almost impossible to get in 3.000kcals + a day without some sort of “cheating”. So he has 1-2 meals that are not “clean” but still fit into his macros.
    Varqanir you have to admit that unless you want to spend your time in the kitchen all day there simply is no way arround having the occasional burger.
    If you want to be on stage and win a plastic trophy - fine, eat clean and stay sub 10% all year arround. Especially if you do that kind of stuff for a living!

But for beginners or average gym rats I don’t see a reason to get hysterical about the usage of ketchup or having the occasional snuggle with some fast food.

Pete Rubish is taking in lots of cake, candys and co on top of 3 pounds of beef and 2 pounds of rice a day. He pulls 800 at 220 without a belt by the way .

I had a talk with Jamie Lewis about dieting for younger guys lately and he told me to simply “eat a fuckton of meat” and not to worry too much about the rest.

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McDonalds bags= 1000 lb squats. Who cares about physique when you can squat 1000 lbs?

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To follow up Quiet Warrior, there is a universal truth that has been developing for a long time now and it is this- If you are thinking about trying something Dave Tate has already perfected it.

http://articles.elitefts.com/features/iron-brothers/the-seven-day-plan-to-getting-yoked/

Oh Yeah, How many podiums have they taken? ALL OF THEM!

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[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.

[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.

Don’t do a fast food bulk.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.

pls end thread.[/quote]

You don’t have to elaborate.

Christian Thibaudeau already did.

For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:

  1. “Bulking” is kinda dumb.
  2. Bulking on junk food is even kinda dumber.
    [/quote]
    I remember Thibaudeau talking about his diet somewhere and he said that it’s almost impossible to get in 3.000kcals + a day without some sort of “cheating”. So he has 1-2 meals that are not “clean” but still fit into his macros.
    Varqanir you have to admit that unless you want to spend your time in the kitchen all day there simply is no way arround having the occasional burger.
    If you want to be on stage and win a plastic trophy - fine, eat clean and stay sub 10% all year arround. Especially if you do that kind of stuff for a living!

But for beginners or average gym rats I don’t see a reason to get hysterical about the usage of ketchup or having the occasional snuggle with some fast food.

Pete Rubish is taking in lots of cake, candys and co on top of 3 pounds of beef and 2 pounds of rice a day. He pulls 800 at 220 without a belt by the way .

I had a talk with Jamie Lewis about dieting for younger guys lately and he told me to simply “eat a fuckton of meat” and not to worry too much about the rest.
[/quote]

A fuckton of meat I can stand behind. Just not when it comes from McDogshit or Taco Hell.

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[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Pete Rubish is taking in lots of cake, candys and co on top of 3 pounds of beef and 2 pounds of rice a day. He pulls 800 at 220 without a belt by the way .
[/quote]
Yeah but Pete Rubish and Mariusz Pudzianowski and the like can get away with stuffing their mouth holes full of candy because of all the special Cell Tech they’re taking. Please do not attempt if you are relying only on what God gave you.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Pete Rubish is taking in lots of cake, candys and co on top of 3 pounds of beef and 2 pounds of rice a day. He pulls 800 at 220 without a belt by the way .
[/quote]
Yeah but Pete Rubish and Mariusz Pudzianowski and the like can get away with stuffing their mouth holes full of candy because of all the special Cell Tech they’re taking. Please do not attempt if you are relying only on what God gave you.[/quote]

Oh these guys take the equivalent of a pharmaceutical companies output of drugs a week? I can be natural and eat like them too!!!

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
A fuckton of meat I can stand behind. Just not when it comes from McDogshit or Taco Hell.
[/quote]
I agree. Location might play a role here as well, I wouldn’t eat at a McDonalds in the states either.

If it was only about gear then arround 10% of your average gym goes would pull 800, walk arround lean as shit and crush their competition under thousands of pounds. But they don’t.

Despite what you say, if you train very hard you might get away with a diet like that.
Ask Prof X, I remember he said something about not having to pay too much attention to your diet if you train several times a day and still can make steady gains.
The dude looks pretty solid although he seems to like McD and other hellish fast food restaurants.
So I’ll just go ahead and agree with whatever the guy says concerning “bulking”.

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Oh my, this thread is so full of fail :confused:

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.

[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.

Don’t do a fast food bulk.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.

pls end thread.[/quote]

You don’t have to elaborate.

Christian Thibaudeau already did.

For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:

  1. “Bulking” is kinda dumb.
  2. Bulking on junk food is even kinda dumber.
    [/quote]

Yet Thibs himself essentially bulked up during his Olympic lifting years (Check out his transformation article, it’s old I know) and then dieted down to the pictured you included. Worked for him and he also states that he is more of an athletic coach (and a damn good one at that) than a bodybuilding coach.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
…and then diet it all off again to get back up on that podium.

Not, of course, that his body could do this without a little “help”.

And this kind of thing is not by any means sustainable. [/quote]

Who is that? Did he post here at some point, a long time ago?
[/quote]

face palm :frowning:

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I don’t dispute that a caloric surplus has to be achieved, I just question the benefit of a large number of those calories coming from a fast food restaurant.

As I asked Crowdhater earlier, if you have two meals, both providing 750 kcal, 48g protein, 43g fat and 43g carbohydrates, which do you suppose will be more anabolic? The grilled steak and sweet potatoes with avocado, tomato and spinach salad, or the double quarter pounder with cheese, and why?

Is there any benefit to eating cheap, easy, low-quality food other than the fact that it’s cheap and easy?

It’s easier to bang syphilitic crack whores than pick up quality women, too, but I wouldn’t recommend it. [/quote]

I would rather get my fats from a grass fed steak than 2 day old frying oil for obvious health reasons and in the first meal you will also be getting a lot more vitamins and minerals.

That said, fast food has it’s place in a diet. I am personally a fan of hitting my daily macros through 80% “Clean” foods and 20% “Dirty” foods. Best of both worlds and ensures I get enough fiber in my diet.

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[quote]CrewPierce wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.

[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.

Don’t do a fast food bulk.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.

pls end thread.[/quote]

You don’t have to elaborate.

Christian Thibaudeau already did.

For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:

  1. “Bulking” is kinda dumb.
  2. Bulking on junk food is even kinda dumber.
    [/quote]

Yet Thibs himself essentially bulked up during his Olympic lifting years (Check out his transformation article, it’s old I know) and then dieted down to the pictured you included. Worked for him and he also states that he is more of an athletic coach (and a damn good one at that) than a bodybuilding coach.[/quote]

Believe me, I’m more familiar with those “Newbies” articles than you can imagine. I remember in the Nutrition segment he talked about his hamburgers-as-post workout habit, and how he ended up looking like the Michelin Man’s fatter brother.

It worked for him, but if he knew then what he knows now, he would not have done it that way.

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[quote]CrewPierce wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
…and then diet it all off again to get back up on that podium.

Not, of course, that his body could do this without a little “help”.

And this kind of thing is not by any means sustainable. [/quote]

Who is that? Did he post here at some point, a long time ago?
[/quote]

face palm :([/quote]

Oh I know. If it weren’t for the stumpy fore arms I wouldn’t have recognized him even when told who he was.

In my defense, my lack of recognition of bodybuilders is probably due to my aversion to gay porn.