Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
He is writing it from a bodybuilding point of view. To be fair, he does address the issue of people who are less concerned about aesthetics. However, I would imagine most people dieting this way are looking to pack cheap calories down at a hopefully low frequency. Sure 4 dollars can buy a pound of ground beef and a pound or so of rice, but sometimes you want 4 double cheeseburgers right now.
Since the OP was asking for high protein fast food sources I think he may be beyond the point of caring if his body fat goes above 10%. Hopefully most people here are mature enough to understand that eating low quality food every day for every meal has side effects apart from gaining strength and size. I do agree with Thibs though, that if you do follow this route you shouldn’t recommend it to others (unless asked explicitly by the OP).
I can definitely see eating some crappy foods you enjoy from time to time. Hell I have a couple pop tarts pre workout every day.
(but I also have minimum requirements when it comes to fiber, fruits, and vegetables that I try to meet every day as well)
Fast food bulking doe. Lol. I sorta did that on my perma bulk. Especially the last month before I dieted I had a double quarter pounder, medium fry, cup of rice, 6 eggs, half a bag of frozen peas every day for breakfast.
I also throughout my first few years lifting had some fast food nearly every day.
The effects were not nearly as good as now where my diet has cleaned up a lot.
I mean I know of a guy that is under Meadows who at least for some time at one point had to eat half a medium pizza from dominos pre workout every day to hit his cal intake.
Most people aren’t like this though and don’t need to eat like this to gain.
And if you can avoid eating like that on a regular basis it would probably be a good idea.
But IMO nothing wrong with getting in some foods you love on the reg as long as the rest of your diet is sensible.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:
Did anybody ever tell you that you have sick delts?
[/quote]
Thanks brah. I’m actually starting to get worried at the rate of their growth. haha
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
I’ll also point out that while he said fat loss isn’t linear and your body adapts to a caloric deficit, he never mentions the opposite of this. Perhaps muscle gain is also not linear and might require a little nudge to maintain. Whether this comes in the form of a massive influx of calories or gaining a little fat to move more weight, who’s to say?
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
Explain to me how seven hundred fifty calories worth of steak, sweet potato, spinach and avocado is less anabolic than seven hundred fifty calories worth of double quarter pounder with cheese, all macronutrients being equal.
Yes, pay your money and they will make you an abomination with 100 patties and 100 slices of American cheese.
This is called a 100x100, and it will cost you about a hundred dollars, but if you are less ambitious you may specify any integer. The 3x3 is about the limit of protein usability unless you happen to be on test cyp or something.
Not currently living in a state that has In-N-Out burger?
Too bad.
Actually, I notice there are In-N-Outs in Scottsdale, Tempe and Chandler. So if you live anywhere near these cities, you are in luck.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
I’ll also point out that while he said fat loss isn’t linear and your body adapts to a caloric deficit, he never mentions the opposite of this. Perhaps muscle gain is also not linear and might require a little nudge to maintain. Whether this comes in the form of a massive influx of calories or gaining a little fat to move more weight, who’s to say?
[/quote]
Well, the man himself is sitting right there in the moderator’s chair right now, ask him if you like.
However, he did mention in the article that the body does adapt to caloric surplus: by storing fat!
Not only by stuffing more fat into the fat cells, but by increasing the number of fat cells, so that more fat can be stored.
Very, very difficult, by the way, to grow new muscle cells. New fat cells? Easy as pecan pie.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
I’ll also point out that while he said fat loss isn’t linear and your body adapts to a caloric deficit, he never mentions the opposite of this. Perhaps muscle gain is also not linear and might require a little nudge to maintain. Whether this comes in the form of a massive influx of calories or gaining a little fat to move more weight, who’s to say?
[/quote]
Well, the man himself is sitting right there in the moderator’s chair right now, ask him if you like.
However, he did mention in the article that the body does adapt to caloric surplus: by storing fat!
Not only by stuffing more fat into the fat cells, but by increasing the number of fat cells, so that more fat can be stored.
Very, very difficult, by the way, to grow new muscle cells. New fat cells? Easy as pecan pie. [/quote]
I understand that the body may be forced to create more fat cells if it’s own are overwhelmed, but I don’t think this is happening from intermittently stuffing yourself full of crappy food, assuming you don’t let yourself get too fat. It appears we agree with each other but are talking about different things. You can’t build muscle without having some sort of caloric surplus. I just question what happens when the slight surplus that allows for only lean muscle gain stalls out and what it would take to break through this plateau.
I honestly don’t know the answer to this, but the seemingly tried and true method is adding more weight, whether it be to the bar or to your belly. Adding to the bar is very difficult, to the belly, easy as pecan pie.
I don’t dispute that a caloric surplus has to be achieved, I just question the benefit of a large number of those calories coming from a fast food restaurant.
As I asked Crowdhater earlier, if you have two meals, both providing 750 kcal, 48g protein, 43g fat and 43g carbohydrates, which do you suppose will be more anabolic? The grilled steak and sweet potatoes with avocado, tomato and spinach salad, or the double quarter pounder with cheese, and why?
Is there any benefit to eating cheap, easy, low-quality food other than the fact that it’s cheap and easy?
It’s easier to bang syphilitic crack whores than pick up quality women, too, but I wouldn’t recommend it.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I don’t dispute that a caloric surplus has to be achieved, I just question the benefit of a large number of those calories coming from a fast food restaurant.
As I asked Crowdhater earlier, if you have two meals, both providing 750 kcal, 48g protein, 43g fat and 43g carbohydrates, which do you suppose will be more anabolic? The grilled steak and sweet potatoes with avocado, tomato and spinach salad, or the double quarter pounder with cheese, and why?
Is there any benefit to eating cheap, easy, low-quality food other than the fact that it’s cheap and easy?
It’s easier to bang syphilitic crack whores than pick up quality women, too, but I wouldn’t recommend it. [/quote]
Agree on all points.
The only other “benefit” to fast food I can think of is that it’s hyper palatable and much more calorie dense than whole food. However, I don’t think anyone here is saying you should eat this stuff daily.
I don’t want to speak for crowdhater, but I think he was speaking to the fact it is difficult to consistently consume large quantities of whole foods. It becomes especially difficult when you stall out and may have to adjust your calories up due to stalling.
The purpose of this thread was to list macro dense fast food options. Everyone should know fast food makes you fat and gives you cancer, but we’re all adults here and “lol, you eat like poop, y u do that” isn’t helping anyone (not saying you said this).
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
And back to the OP’s question, just go to In-N-Out and order a cheeseburger with as many patties as you want.
Yes, pay your money and they will make you an abomination with 100 patties and 100 slices of American cheese.
This is called a 100x100, and it will cost you about a hundred dollars, but if you are less ambitious you may specify any integer. The 3x3 is about the limit of protein usability unless you happen to be on test cyp or something.
Not currently living in a state that has In-N-Out burger?
Too bad. [/quote]
In n Out no longer does this. The highest they go up to is a 4x4.
bet these clowns that eat like crap never stood on the top podium step … bet most dont even compete… just eat like pigs and get huge… huge everywhere…
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
And back to the OP’s question, just go to In-N-Out and order a cheeseburger with as many patties as you want.
Yes, pay your money and they will make you an abomination with 100 patties and 100 slices of American cheese.
This is called a 100x100, and it will cost you about a hundred dollars, but if you are less ambitious you may specify any integer. The 3x3 is about the limit of protein usability unless you happen to be on test cyp or something.
Not currently living in a state that has In-N-Out burger?
Too bad. [/quote]
In n Out no longer does this. The highest they go up to is a 4x4.[/quote]
What? Sheesh. What is the world coming to?
Seriously, though, a 4x4 has nearly 70 grams of protein and over a thousand calories. Not bad for five bucks and change.
[quote]spk wrote:
bet these clowns that eat like crap never stood on the top podium step … bet most dont even compete… just eat like pigs and get huge… huge everywhere…[/quote]
Well, it’s like Thibs said.
Some people just want to take up more space and look bigger in clothes.
[quote]crowdhater wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Thibs also sez: lol don’t do it.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol don’t do it.
Don’t do a fast food bulk.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to elaborate.
pls end thread.[/quote]
You don’t have to elaborate.
Christian Thibaudeau already did.
For people too lazy to read the article, Christian’s thesis is twofold:
that was kind of a joke right?
Then again, this fat fuck likes to chow down on KFC…
