[quote]browndisaster wrote:
jeans are pretty easy, find a good deal on Levi’s and get them tailored if you want the waist in
DRESS SHIRTS - should I be buying slim fit shirts and then get them tailored? someone educated me on this. Even the “extreme slim fit/tailored” shirts are not fitting around the waist for me properly. On that note, I need to start doing neck work…[/quote]
Depending on your drop(difference between waist and chest/shoulders) regardless of how slim it’s cut having a taper is different. Most slim cut shirts are evenly slim throughout the waist and torso so fitting around the waist will be an issue.
A drop of 10+ usually makes this a problem( I have a 44 inch chest and 31 inch waist, so a 13 inch drop for example). The best coarse of action is make sure the shirt fits in the chest, arms and neck(really only important if you plan on wearing a tie to be honest) and taking it to a tailor and ask to put in darts. Basically he will pinch the fabric in the back of the shirt and sew it like that, makes the wast slimmer but keeps the chest which creates a taper to the shirt.(Youll notice most store mannequins have this done with like pins and paper clips anyways) You want the shirt to hug your shoulders, arms and chest but still be able to do a most muscular without it ripping, then get some darts(if it needs).
Some brands you will see darts already, Express Slim cut and Banana Republic Stretch Poplin shirts come to mind. Some have no darts but are cut with a natural taper like J Crew’s slim soft wash shirts. When it doubt go for something a little too big than a little too small. A good tailor can always cut away material but no tailor can ever add. [/quote]
Thanks a ton. Some of the shirts I bought already have darts in them, so I think I’ll avoid buying those, and will just get them tailored to fit. Btw I love creeping on you and your fiance on instagram haha, I better be invited to the wedding…
[quote]sonnyp wrote:
You said you are seeing this girl. I’d wait til I got laid before I brought any denim into the relationship.[/quote]
The exact reason why I need to look for a nice pair, if you get my drift…[/quote]
And according to your post you are NOT getting ass from her so yes you are a bitch, even tho you claim your not in a later post because your getting laid.
So… are you getting laid from her, are you not? Either way you are drinking her kool aid and towing the line like a good little puppet.
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Big deal, the guy is only 21. I wish I had some girl teach me some fashion sense when I was that young. [/quote]
No kidding. IME, the average 21 yr old has approximately zero clue and gives a roughly equivalent number of shits about fashion, other than they want to look how their girl/girls in general want them to look. I see nothing wrong with this (although it can hold you back career wise, but that’s another issue).
The idea that this somehow makes them “less manly” is pretty laughable. I’ve always kinda wondered about guys who seemed excessively concerned about “their style” beyond how it serves their purposes either in the workplace or with the opposite sex. I was just never that emotionally invested in my clothes that I would walk out on an attractive young lady before I’d retire a ratty old pair of jeans (at least in her presence).
Learning how to do something and becoming better at it is very manly. Doesn’t really matter what it is, fashion or anything else.
Knowing how to present yourself, behave, dress, whatever, in order to reach certain goals and get better results out of life – including getting laid on the regular… still manly.
Just because society dictates you learn how to spell and use proper grammar doesn’t make you a ‘bitch’ or a ‘puppet’. It’s no different with changing the way you appear to others. You’re not conforming because you’re a bitch, you’re meeting certain standards because you get something out of it.
[quote]mattyg24 wrote:
I have a size 31 waist and can’t fit into skinny jeans or stylish pants because my quads are too big. Help
Any suggestions?
I currently wear only loose fit or boot cut jeans but I’ve started seeing a girl who is a model and she wants me to dress cooler so I don’t bring down her rep. Not the worst problem to be having but any advice is good advice.[/quote]
First off I haven’t read any of the comments but I trust that someone has told you to stop wearing boot-cut jeans - immediately - unless of course you are a 12 year old girl FFS.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
jeans are pretty easy, find a good deal on Levi’s and get them tailored if you want the waist in
DRESS SHIRTS - should I be buying slim fit shirts and then get them tailored? someone educated me on this. Even the “extreme slim fit/tailored” shirts are not fitting around the waist for me properly. On that note, I need to start doing neck work…[/quote]
Depending on your drop(difference between waist and chest/shoulders) regardless of how slim it’s cut having a taper is different. Most slim cut shirts are evenly slim throughout the waist and torso so fitting around the waist will be an issue.
A drop of 10+ usually makes this a problem( I have a 44 inch chest and 31 inch waist, so a 13 inch drop for example). The best coarse of action is make sure the shirt fits in the chest, arms and neck(really only important if you plan on wearing a tie to be honest) and taking it to a tailor and ask to put in darts. Basically he will pinch the fabric in the back of the shirt and sew it like that, makes the wast slimmer but keeps the chest which creates a taper to the shirt.(Youll notice most store mannequins have this done with like pins and paper clips anyways) You want the shirt to hug your shoulders, arms and chest but still be able to do a most muscular without it ripping, then get some darts(if it needs).
Some brands you will see darts already, Express Slim cut and Banana Republic Stretch Poplin shirts come to mind. Some have no darts but are cut with a natural taper like J Crew’s slim soft wash shirts. When it doubt go for something a little too big than a little too small. A good tailor can always cut away material but no tailor can ever add. [/quote]
Thanks a ton. Some of the shirts I bought already have darts in them, so I think I’ll avoid buying those, and will just get them tailored to fit. Btw I love creeping on you and your fiance on instagram haha, I better be invited to the wedding…[/quote]
I’m just happy you said creeping and not fapping hahaha.
Learning how to do something and becoming better at it is very manly. Doesn’t really matter what it is, fashion or anything else.
Knowing how to present yourself, behave, dress, whatever, in order to reach certain goals and get better results out of life – including getting laid on the regular… still manly.
Just because society dictates you learn how to spell and use proper grammar doesn’t make you a ‘bitch’ or a ‘puppet’. It’s no different with changing the way you appear to others. You’re not conforming because you’re a bitch, you’re meeting certain standards because you get something out of it.[/quote]
You are spot on amigo. I’m willing to bet anybody ragging on the OP for wanting to dress better for this chick is wearing a pair of Wranglers or 90’s stonewashed Dad jeans from bin at Walmart.
Also from a historical standpoint fashion and grooming has always been a sign of power so this whole ‘fashion is girlyand ghey’ is just strange.
P.S. guys don’t feel bad, most American women are clueless about style too, it’s pretty bad.
Learning how to do something and becoming better at it is very manly. Doesn’t really matter what it is, fashion or anything else.
Knowing how to present yourself, behave, dress, whatever, in order to reach certain goals and get better results out of life – including getting laid on the regular… still manly.
Just because society dictates you learn how to spell and use proper grammar doesn’t make you a ‘bitch’ or a ‘puppet’. It’s no different with changing the way you appear to others. You’re not conforming because you’re a bitch, you’re meeting certain standards because you get something out of it.[/quote]
You are spot on amigo. I’m willing to bet anybody ragging on the OP for wanting to dress better for this chick is wearing a pair of Wranglers or 90’s stonewashed Dad jeans from bin at Walmart.
Also from a historical standpoint fashion and grooming has always been a sign of power so this whole ‘fashion is girlyand ghey’ is just strange.
P.S. guys don’t feel bad, most American women are clueless about style too, it’s pretty bad. [/quote]
The debate whether it is manly to look good was settled long ago by the gentleman above.
This girl sounds like the worst. lucky brand jeans work good for me, bc I have the same problem. Or you could just go with the sweatpants and fanny pack.
Learning how to do something and becoming better at it is very manly. Doesn’t really matter what it is, fashion or anything else.
Knowing how to present yourself, behave, dress, whatever, in order to reach certain goals and get better results out of life – including getting laid on the regular… still manly.
Just because society dictates you learn how to spell and use proper grammar doesn’t make you a ‘bitch’ or a ‘puppet’. It’s no different with changing the way you appear to others. You’re not conforming because you’re a bitch, you’re meeting certain standards because you get something out of it.[/quote]
You are spot on amigo. I’m willing to bet anybody ragging on the OP for wanting to dress better for this chick is wearing a pair of Wranglers or 90’s stonewashed Dad jeans from bin at Walmart.
Also from a historical standpoint fashion and grooming has always been a sign of power so this whole ‘fashion is girlyand ghey’ is just strange.
P.S. guys don’t feel bad, most American women are clueless about style too, it’s pretty bad. [/quote]
Hey Waittz, I have some questions. Really I’d appreciate anyone answering them but I figured since I’ve read multiple of your posts in the past about the subject directing my questions towards you can’t be a bad thing.
How much does it cost to have a tailor work on your clothes? Should regular everyday t-shirts be tailored? Should cargo shorts be tailored? Being 6 ft 3-4ish, being only 190 lbs after surgeries, and having long limbs for my height, most clothes (T-shirts, jeans, or dress clothes) do not fit right. Almost always baggy as hell around my stomach.
What do you even say to a tailor? “I want these shirts tapered?”, “I want these jeans more fitted”? I don’t even know how to approach a tailor. Or find a tailor.
Is there a style of jeans or t-shirts that are just better? Like regular or slim fit, etc. I know here you mentioned darker for jeans.
Have any tips for where to learn more about basic fashion for men? I’m only 21, so right now I’m more interested in learning about everyday fashion, but learning about both everyday fashion and dress clothes are both important so really I’m looking to better understand both of them.
I’ve made efforts in the last year to improve upon sweats, t-shirts, and athletic shorts every day but I’m not exactly fashionable. Just trying to improve.
Learning how to do something and becoming better at it is very manly. Doesn’t really matter what it is, fashion or anything else.
Knowing how to present yourself, behave, dress, whatever, in order to reach certain goals and get better results out of life – including getting laid on the regular… still manly.
Just because society dictates you learn how to spell and use proper grammar doesn’t make you a ‘bitch’ or a ‘puppet’. It’s no different with changing the way you appear to others. You’re not conforming because you’re a bitch, you’re meeting certain standards because you get something out of it.[/quote]
You are spot on amigo. I’m willing to bet anybody ragging on the OP for wanting to dress better for this chick is wearing a pair of Wranglers or 90’s stonewashed Dad jeans from bin at Walmart.
Also from a historical standpoint fashion and grooming has always been a sign of power so this whole ‘fashion is girlyand ghey’ is just strange.
P.S. guys don’t feel bad, most American women are clueless about style too, it’s pretty bad. [/quote]
The debate whether it is manly to look good was settled long ago by the gentleman above.
[/quote]
Orion is that the Duke of Windsor in his younger years? I dont really recall that face.
Hey Waittz, I have some questions. Really I’d appreciate anyone answering them but I figured since I’ve read multiple of your posts in the past about the subject directing my questions towards you can’t be a bad thing.
How much does it cost to have a tailor work on your clothes? Should regular everyday t-shirts be tailored? Should cargo shorts be tailored? Being 6 ft 3-4ish, being only 190 lbs after surgeries, and having long limbs for my height, most clothes (T-shirts, jeans, or dress clothes) do not fit right. Almost always baggy as hell around my stomach.
What do you even say to a tailor? “I want these shirts tapered?”, “I want these jeans more fitted”? I don’t even know how to approach a tailor. Or find a tailor.
Is there a style of jeans or t-shirts that are just better? Like regular or slim fit, etc. I know here you mentioned darker for jeans.
Have any tips for where to learn more about basic fashion for men? I’m only 21, so right now I’m more interested in learning about everyday fashion, but learning about both everyday fashion and dress clothes are both important so really I’m looking to better understand both of them.
I’ve made efforts in the last year to improve upon sweats, t-shirts, and athletic shorts every day but I’m not exactly fashionable. Just trying to improve.[/quote]
2-20$ an item. Suit Jackets tend to be the most expensive, small alterations cheaper. No, T-shirts and shorts should purchased to fit. Try different brands and most mainstream fashion brands actually cut shirts to be slimmer. For crews and V necks try Armani Exchange Prima series(20 bucks a pop, cut long and lean with good material) and J Crew slim V’s are a staple if you are thicker. Shoot for modern shorts, NEVER wear cargo. Shorts should sit 1-2 inches about the knee, never more, never less unless swimwear. Stick with basic colors, minimal patterns and avoid large logos.
Yes. Bring in a picture of how a shirt fits that you want to mimic from a magazine, either he will tell you it cant be done with that shirt because of XYZ and what to look for in buying a shirt that can be fitted that way. Best thing to do is buy the shirt, take to tailor with the tags still on so you can return it. Jeans can be fitted in the length and waist, not leg so refere to my advice on fit earlier. Shoot for legs and butt, with a narrow opening(slimmer the opening the fancier the show you can wear) and have him take care of the waist.(Note trousers can be ‘carved’ so to speak in the butt, jeans not really.) Finding a tailor is easy, just gooled local tailors or find a well dressed man and ask him who he uses.
Yes, but you have to find the one that fits YOU best since everyone is different. For jeans and pants shoot for slim or straight, never relaxed or boot cut. Trousers always go with a flat front. Dress shoes should never be pointy(unless you are a wizzard) or flat toed(unless you are a hobbit), always round etc. Always match your tie to your collar spread. Somehow Americans lost their way in the 90’s and there are tons of styles out for sale now that should never ever be worn.
Buy this book from amazon ‘Esquire the Handbook of Style: A Man’s Guide to Looking Good’ it is litterally a little black book on fashion fundamentals and still my favorite. Learn the basics and then experiment until you find your own personal style. Stick with the two words ‘Timeless and effortless’ then personalize with some flare but never peacock.
I would say the best part of men’s fashion is that you never really have to follow trends. Like Waittz says, learn the fundamentals and then add maybe 1 or 2 things that make it yours. A caveat though, make sure you know the fundamentals before you start adding your flare or you start looking silly.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
I would say the best part of men’s fashion is that you never really have to follow trends. Like Waittz says, learn the fundamentals and then add maybe 1 or 2 things that make it yours. A caveat though, make sure you know the fundamentals before you start adding your flare or you start looking silly.[/quote]
Yes sir. The term trend implies a temporary state. If your outfit will not look good in a photo 10 years from now or 10 years prior it isnt a good outfit. Think Steve McQueen, in just about any picture you see him dressed it looked good then and would still look good now.
Some current guys just crushing it are Ryan Gosling and Joseph Gordon Levitt.
Hey Waittz, I have some questions. Really I’d appreciate anyone answering them but I figured since I’ve read multiple of your posts in the past about the subject directing my questions towards you can’t be a bad thing.
How much does it cost to have a tailor work on your clothes? Should regular everyday t-shirts be tailored? Should cargo shorts be tailored? Being 6 ft 3-4ish, being only 190 lbs after surgeries, and having long limbs for my height, most clothes (T-shirts, jeans, or dress clothes) do not fit right. Almost always baggy as hell around my stomach.
What do you even say to a tailor? “I want these shirts tapered?”, “I want these jeans more fitted”? I don’t even know how to approach a tailor. Or find a tailor.
Is there a style of jeans or t-shirts that are just better? Like regular or slim fit, etc. I know here you mentioned darker for jeans.
Have any tips for where to learn more about basic fashion for men? I’m only 21, so right now I’m more interested in learning about everyday fashion, but learning about both everyday fashion and dress clothes are both important so really I’m looking to better understand both of them.
I’ve made efforts in the last year to improve upon sweats, t-shirts, and athletic shorts every day but I’m not exactly fashionable. Just trying to improve.[/quote]
2-20$ an item. Suit Jackets tend to be the most expensive, small alterations cheaper. No, T-shirts and shorts should purchased to fit. Try different brands and most mainstream fashion brands actually cut shirts to be slimmer. For crews and V necks try Armani Exchange Prima series(20 bucks a pop, cut long and lean with good material) and J Crew slim V’s are a staple if you are thicker. Shoot for modern shorts, NEVER wear cargo. Shorts should sit 1-2 inches about the knee, never more, never less unless swimwear. Stick with basic colors, minimal patterns and avoid large logos.
Yes. Bring in a picture of how a shirt fits that you want to mimic from a magazine, either he will tell you it cant be done with that shirt because of XYZ and what to look for in buying a shirt that can be fitted that way. Best thing to do is buy the shirt, take to tailor with the tags still on so you can return it. Jeans can be fitted in the length and waist, not leg so refere to my advice on fit earlier. Shoot for legs and butt, with a narrow opening(slimmer the opening the fancier the show you can wear) and have him take care of the waist.(Note trousers can be ‘carved’ so to speak in the butt, jeans not really.) Finding a tailor is easy, just gooled local tailors or find a well dressed man and ask him who he uses.
Yes, but you have to find the one that fits YOU best since everyone is different. For jeans and pants shoot for slim or straight, never relaxed or boot cut. Trousers always go with a flat front. Dress shoes should never be pointy(unless you are a wizzard) or flat toed(unless you are a hobbit), always round etc. Always match your tie to your collar spread. Somehow Americans lost their way in the 90’s and there are tons of styles out for sale now that should never ever be worn.
Buy this book from amazon ‘Esquire the Handbook of Style: A Man’s Guide to Looking Good’ it is litterally a little black book on fashion fundamentals and still my favorite. Learn the basics and then experiment until you find your own personal style. Stick with the two words ‘Timeless and effortless’ then personalize with some flare but never peacock.
Stay thirsty my friends. [/quote]
Cool, thanks. Just curious, is there a reason regular t-shirts shouldn’t be tailored?
Hey Waittz, I have some questions. Really I’d appreciate anyone answering them but I figured since I’ve read multiple of your posts in the past about the subject directing my questions towards you can’t be a bad thing.
How much does it cost to have a tailor work on your clothes? Should regular everyday t-shirts be tailored? Should cargo shorts be tailored? Being 6 ft 3-4ish, being only 190 lbs after surgeries, and having long limbs for my height, most clothes (T-shirts, jeans, or dress clothes) do not fit right. Almost always baggy as hell around my stomach.
What do you even say to a tailor? “I want these shirts tapered?”, “I want these jeans more fitted”? I don’t even know how to approach a tailor. Or find a tailor.
Is there a style of jeans or t-shirts that are just better? Like regular or slim fit, etc. I know here you mentioned darker for jeans.
Have any tips for where to learn more about basic fashion for men? I’m only 21, so right now I’m more interested in learning about everyday fashion, but learning about both everyday fashion and dress clothes are both important so really I’m looking to better understand both of them.
I’ve made efforts in the last year to improve upon sweats, t-shirts, and athletic shorts every day but I’m not exactly fashionable. Just trying to improve.[/quote]
2-20$ an item. Suit Jackets tend to be the most expensive, small alterations cheaper. No, T-shirts and shorts should purchased to fit. Try different brands and most mainstream fashion brands actually cut shirts to be slimmer. For crews and V necks try Armani Exchange Prima series(20 bucks a pop, cut long and lean with good material) and J Crew slim V’s are a staple if you are thicker. Shoot for modern shorts, NEVER wear cargo. Shorts should sit 1-2 inches about the knee, never more, never less unless swimwear. Stick with basic colors, minimal patterns and avoid large logos.
Yes. Bring in a picture of how a shirt fits that you want to mimic from a magazine, either he will tell you it cant be done with that shirt because of XYZ and what to look for in buying a shirt that can be fitted that way. Best thing to do is buy the shirt, take to tailor with the tags still on so you can return it. Jeans can be fitted in the length and waist, not leg so refere to my advice on fit earlier. Shoot for legs and butt, with a narrow opening(slimmer the opening the fancier the show you can wear) and have him take care of the waist.(Note trousers can be ‘carved’ so to speak in the butt, jeans not really.) Finding a tailor is easy, just gooled local tailors or find a well dressed man and ask him who he uses.
Yes, but you have to find the one that fits YOU best since everyone is different. For jeans and pants shoot for slim or straight, never relaxed or boot cut. Trousers always go with a flat front. Dress shoes should never be pointy(unless you are a wizzard) or flat toed(unless you are a hobbit), always round etc. Always match your tie to your collar spread. Somehow Americans lost their way in the 90’s and there are tons of styles out for sale now that should never ever be worn.
Buy this book from amazon ‘Esquire the Handbook of Style: A Man’s Guide to Looking Good’ it is litterally a little black book on fashion fundamentals and still my favorite. Learn the basics and then experiment until you find your own personal style. Stick with the two words ‘Timeless and effortless’ then personalize with some flare but never peacock.
Stay thirsty my friends. [/quote]
Cool, thanks. Just curious, is there a reason regular t-shirts shouldn’t be tailored?[/quote]
Darts wouldnt be practical and would look strange so basically a tailor would have to competely open the shirt, cut off material and sew it back and with cotton that is probably a recipe for disaster not to mention it would probably be big risk little reward. Might as well buy a new shirt.
Go try on some crews and V’s from AX like I said and you will be wanted to donate all your old shirts anyways.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
I would say the best part of men’s fashion is that you never really have to follow trends. Like Waittz says, learn the fundamentals and then add maybe 1 or 2 things that make it yours. A caveat though, make sure you know the fundamentals before you start adding your flare or you start looking silly.[/quote]
Yes sir. The term trend implies a temporary state. If your outfit will not look good in a photo 10 years from now or 10 years prior it isnt a good outfit. Think Steve McQueen, in just about any picture you see him dressed it looked good then and would still look good now.
Some current guys just crushing it are Ryan Gosling and Joseph Gordon Levitt. [/quote]
