Fashion Help

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Waitz - drop some knowledge on casual coats/jackets for us! [/quote]

The best “casual” coat or jacket is not to wear a casual jacket, rather wear a nice suit jacket or blazer with a casual outfit. My Standard go-to, is open collar white shirt with dark denim, keep flair to a minimun. It is understated and works in all occasions socially, many professionally.

The standard advice is a navy is the most verstile, I say that is bullshit and grab not too dark or liight, more like sharkskin type grey. Goes with everything and works in all seasons if it. Tweed in the fall and seersucker in summer looks like you are trying too hard(which you are). Im personally not a fan of patterns, but that is my personal style, i stick with solid colors and more black/white/greys in general but dont be afraid to try a flannel.

Stick with a two-button, make sure it fits right. Not too tight in shoulders but you shouldnt have extra room. Make sure it creates a v-taper and fits close to the body, it should never be so tight that the fabric around the waist/button look stressed(you fucking hipster idiots). Remember a jacket that is too big doesnt fit, same thing with one too small(a note that these wannabe GQ city fools cant realize). Keep the lapels understated and if you want to be daring shoot for a peaked lapel(the collar part of the shirt points up in this case).

Ill make another point on flair to follow up. Here is me in my “go-to”(ignore the media badge around my neck). Notice the fit and the taper(and the solid jawline). If i want to be real casual I can through on a henly shirt or even a white v-neck.

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…also, I think a ticket pocket is awesome looking and so should everyone else. What about the sleeve buttons? Worth it to pay for functioning buttons?
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Love the ticket pocket, that jacket has one, but maybe hard to see from blur and shadow. Also make sure there is what looks like a button hole on the lapel. It is for a lapel pin, back in the day flower(getting popular again). If you use a lapel pin make it your only accent.

Dont ever roll/push your sleeves up wearing a jacket/blazer. Just because it is on GQ or a maniquin doesnt mean it looks good. So to answer, it doesnt matter. [/quote]

Yeah, it seems like one of those things that certain people care a lot about, while others can’t be bothered. I just checked out my suits. The one I had custom made in Turkey when I was in the AF fits surprisingly bad. Arms too long, jacket too short, pursing at the base of the neck, etc. The pants don’t fit any more, but they looked like they belonged on a zoot suit. My black one I’ve had forever (maybe highschool) fits pretty well. I’m guessing I was swimming in it back then.

Do you have a steamer for your suits and coats?[/quote]

Just a small hand held one, steam is steam. Really just throw it on a cedar hanger and bag it after you wear. Take to the cleaners never… or once a year if you need to. Light steam and a lint roller does the trick if you need to wear it often.

[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Good advice, dress for the job you want not the one you have. People always accused me of dealin dope, I had to switch the style up, a little lol. [/quote]

Was that the job you had? or the job you wanted?

I would suggest layers with a water/wind resistant shell on the outside. Allows you to keep warm and not look like ol’ Georgie.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Waitz - drop some knowledge on casual coats/jackets for us! [/quote]

The best “casual” coat or jacket is not to wear a casual jacket, rather wear a nice suit jacket or blazer with a casual outfit. My Standard go-to, is open collar white shirt with dark denim, keep flair to a minimun. It is understated and works in all occasions socially, many professionally.

The standard advice is a navy is the most verstile, I say that is bullshit and grab not too dark or liight, more like sharkskin type grey. Goes with everything and works in all seasons if it. Tweed in the fall and seersucker in summer looks like you are trying too hard(which you are). Im personally not a fan of patterns, but that is my personal style, i stick with solid colors and more black/white/greys in general but dont be afraid to try a flannel.

Stick with a two-button, make sure it fits right. Not too tight in shoulders but you shouldnt have extra room. Make sure it creates a v-taper and fits close to the body, it should never be so tight that the fabric around the waist/button look stressed(you fucking hipster idiots). Remember a jacket that is too big doesnt fit, same thing with one too small(a note that these wannabe GQ city fools cant realize). Keep the lapels understated and if you want to be daring shoot for a peaked lapel(the collar part of the shirt points up in this case).

Ill make another point on flair to follow up. Here is me in my “go-to”(ignore the media badge around my neck). Notice the fit and the taper(and the solid jawline). If i want to be real casual I can through on a henly shirt or even a white v-neck.

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…also, I think a ticket pocket is awesome looking and so should everyone else. What about the sleeve buttons? Worth it to pay for functioning buttons?
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Love the ticket pocket, that jacket has one, but maybe hard to see from blur and shadow. Also make sure there is what looks like a button hole on the lapel. It is for a lapel pin, back in the day flower(getting popular again). If you use a lapel pin make it your only accent.

Dont ever roll/push your sleeves up wearing a jacket/blazer. Just because it is on GQ or a maniquin doesnt mean it looks good. So to answer, it doesnt matter. [/quote]

Yeah, it seems like one of those things that certain people care a lot about, while others can’t be bothered. I just checked out my suits. The one I had custom made in Turkey when I was in the AF fits surprisingly bad. Arms too long, jacket too short, pursing at the base of the neck, etc. The pants don’t fit any more, but they looked like they belonged on a zoot suit. My black one I’ve had forever (maybe highschool) fits pretty well. I’m guessing I was swimming in it back then.

Do you have a steamer for your suits and coats?[/quote]

Just a small hand held one, steam is steam. Really just throw it on a cedar hanger and bag it after you wear. Take to the cleaners never… or once a year if you need to. Light steam and a lint roller does the trick if you need to wear it often. [/quote]

I have mine cleaned after every funeral they are in. It is a necessity, a funeral in the summer in the south is like a sauna in a suit. No amount of steam can fix that really.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Lol, love the advice, but being from Florida I think you misunderstood my question. I’m talking cold weather, underneath you’re just wearing a t-shirt (I wear t-shirts all year round) and need to throw a coat on to avoid hypothermia.

Now that I just remembered you’re from Florida I’m thinking maybe you don’t even own one, haha.

Great style, btw. I try to keep things pretty simple myself, although I did accidentally buy into the graphic tee craze 5 or 6 years ago (not the huge toolbag ed hardy tees, but too graphic nonetheless and I look back on it shaking my head). [/quote]

I’m a rock and roll guy, only graphic t’s allowed are band shirts hahah.

You talking coats or jackets(non dress/tailoring)? And how casual? [/quote]

I said coat hoping you wouldn’t think I meant over coat which I normally wear when it’s very cold and just the suit jacket won’t cut it. I’m talking very casual, as in, going to a buddies house and under the coat all I’m wearing is a t-shirt (and jeans). Non dress attire.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
I would suggest layers with a water/wind resistant shell on the outside. Allows you to keep warm and not look like ol’ Georgie.[/quote]

Ahaha, love the puffy coat reference.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I said coat hoping you wouldn’t think I meant over coat which I normally wear when it’s very cold and just the suit jacket won’t cut it. I’m talking very casual, as in, going to a buddies house and under the coat all I’m wearing is a t-shirt (and jeans). Non dress attire.
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A zip up wool jacket could work. I have one in black, and it works equally well with a t-shirt or a dress shirt. It’s a good spring/fall jacket.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Lol, love the advice, but being from Florida I think you misunderstood my question. I’m talking cold weather, underneath you’re just wearing a t-shirt (I wear t-shirts all year round) and need to throw a coat on to avoid hypothermia.

Now that I just remembered you’re from Florida I’m thinking maybe you don’t even own one, haha.

Great style, btw. I try to keep things pretty simple myself, although I did accidentally buy into the graphic tee craze 5 or 6 years ago (not the huge toolbag ed hardy tees, but too graphic nonetheless and I look back on it shaking my head). [/quote]

I’m a rock and roll guy, only graphic t’s allowed are band shirts hahah.

You talking coats or jackets(non dress/tailoring)? And how casual? [/quote]

I said coat hoping you wouldn’t think I meant over coat which I normally wear when it’s very cold and just the suit jacket won’t cut it. I’m talking very casual, as in, going to a buddies house and under the coat all I’m wearing is a t-shirt (and jeans). Non dress attire.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
I would suggest layers with a water/wind resistant shell on the outside. Allows you to keep warm and not look like ol’ Georgie.[/quote]

Ahaha, love the puffy coat reference. [/quote]

Grab a black plain varsity jacket with leather sleeves, kind of like this. Wear with a white or grey henley. Cigaret hanging out of lip for extra cool is optional.

Another good look is a simple leather jacket with a hoodie underneath for the layered look, lots of brands now make a jacket with the hoodie inside to copy the look, still looks good.

EDIT- bonus points for wearing the above with a clean white dress shirt, slim black tie, demin and sneakers.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Lol, love the advice, but being from Florida I think you misunderstood my question. I’m talking cold weather, underneath you’re just wearing a t-shirt (I wear t-shirts all year round) and need to throw a coat on to avoid hypothermia.

Now that I just remembered you’re from Florida I’m thinking maybe you don’t even own one, haha.

Great style, btw. I try to keep things pretty simple myself, although I did accidentally buy into the graphic tee craze 5 or 6 years ago (not the huge toolbag ed hardy tees, but too graphic nonetheless and I look back on it shaking my head). [/quote]

I’m a rock and roll guy, only graphic t’s allowed are band shirts hahah.

You talking coats or jackets(non dress/tailoring)? And how casual? [/quote]

I said coat hoping you wouldn’t think I meant over coat which I normally wear when it’s very cold and just the suit jacket won’t cut it. I’m talking very casual, as in, going to a buddies house and under the coat all I’m wearing is a t-shirt (and jeans). Non dress attire.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
I would suggest layers with a water/wind resistant shell on the outside. Allows you to keep warm and not look like ol’ Georgie.[/quote]

Ahaha, love the puffy coat reference. [/quote]

Grab a black plain varsity jacket with leather sleeves, kind of like this. Wear with a white or grey henley. Cigaret hanging out of lip for extra cool is optional.

Another good look is a simple leather jacket with a hoodie underneath for the layered look, lots of brands now make a jacket with the hoodie inside to copy the look, still looks good.

EDIT- bonus points for wearing the above with a clean white dress shirt, slim black tie, demin and sneakers. [/quote]

You’re just too cool for you own good, aren’t you?

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I said coat hoping you wouldn’t think I meant over coat which I normally wear when it’s very cold and just the suit jacket won’t cut it. I’m talking very casual, as in, going to a buddies house and under the coat all I’m wearing is a t-shirt (and jeans). Non dress attire.
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A zip up wool jacket could work. I have one in black, and it works equally well with a t-shirt or a dress shirt. It’s a good spring/fall jacket.[/quote]

I would say a black fleece jacket (like Columbia or Northface), a canvas upland jacket or a duck mechanics jacket (carhartt). But that’s just my rural style.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Lol, love the advice, but being from Florida I think you misunderstood my question. I’m talking cold weather, underneath you’re just wearing a t-shirt (I wear t-shirts all year round) and need to throw a coat on to avoid hypothermia.

Now that I just remembered you’re from Florida I’m thinking maybe you don’t even own one, haha.

Great style, btw. I try to keep things pretty simple myself, although I did accidentally buy into the graphic tee craze 5 or 6 years ago (not the huge toolbag ed hardy tees, but too graphic nonetheless and I look back on it shaking my head). [/quote]

I’m a rock and roll guy, only graphic t’s allowed are band shirts hahah.

You talking coats or jackets(non dress/tailoring)? And how casual? [/quote]

I said coat hoping you wouldn’t think I meant over coat which I normally wear when it’s very cold and just the suit jacket won’t cut it. I’m talking very casual, as in, going to a buddies house and under the coat all I’m wearing is a t-shirt (and jeans). Non dress attire.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
I would suggest layers with a water/wind resistant shell on the outside. Allows you to keep warm and not look like ol’ Georgie.[/quote]

Ahaha, love the puffy coat reference. [/quote]

Grab a black plain varsity jacket with leather sleeves, kind of like this. Wear with a white or grey henley. Cigaret hanging out of lip for extra cool is optional.

Another good look is a simple leather jacket with a hoodie underneath for the layered look, lots of brands now make a jacket with the hoodie inside to copy the look, still looks good.

EDIT- bonus points for wearing the above with a clean white dress shirt, slim black tie, demin and sneakers. [/quote]

You’re just too cool for you own good, aren’t you?[/quote]

In some countries, it’s actually a crime to look this good.

Okay Waittz, here’s one for you about form vs. function–kind of. Whats your opinion on high tech fabrics starting to appear in more traditional clothes, ie. Nike polos and golf pants. I have a pretty great hookup on Nike polos that I’m going to wear to work.

Waittz,

What sort of belt would you wear with the following shoes?

http://www.jackthreads.com/hillsboro/footwear/shoes/jeffrey/products/139078

http://www.jackthreads.com/hillsboro/footwear/shoes/vincent/products/139081

Thanks for all your help, dude.

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Waittz,

What sort of belt would you wear with the following shoes?

http://www.jackthreads.com/hillsboro/footwear/shoes/jeffrey/products/139078

http://www.jackthreads.com/hillsboro/footwear/shoes/vincent/products/139081

Thanks for all your help, dude.[/quote]

Not blue, white or red. You can go black or dark brown with the first pair of suede bucks and flirt between dressy/rugged in the middle style wise. Just not too far on either extreme. I would go to Cole Haan or a similar store and find a matching suede material but don’t match the color to the exact shade, that looks too planned.

For the wing tips just go black. Don’t over complicate belts. Just make sure you don’t skimp in price. With belts and shoes you get what you pay for with quality and material. These are two elements you never want to be cheap in. They take the most frequent and violent beatings from wear and shitty cow looks like shitty cow after a few wears.

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
Okay Waittz, here’s one for you about form vs. function–kind of. Whats your opinion on high tech fabrics starting to appear in more traditional clothes, ie. Nike polos and golf pants. I have a pretty great hookup on Nike polos that I’m going to wear to work.[/quote]

I don’t like them for work wear unless you work outdoors and heat is an issue. Don’t be the guy looking like he is about to play 18 holes at Augusta in the middle of the summer if you work indoors or in front of customers/clients. These fabrics are appearing in clothes meant for active wear. I’ve yet to see a dry-fit suit(and I pray I never do).

If you work in a golf pro shop, well in that case…when in Rome

Waittz you should be charging for all this advice or making commission ahah.

^^^That explains why all my belts get all torn up on the edges. I tend to buy just a reversible belt from Kohls and call it a day. If I went and spent some real money on a belt it would really last a longer time? I never really thought it would matter when the wear and tear is the same. I wear this belt 5 days/week every week…

I have told my wife many a time I want to hire a gay man and take him shopping with me. I want to buy a new wardrobe.

I guess all I need to do is ask Waittz. lol.

Waittz you in Tampa or Miami?

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
I have told my wife many a time I want to hire a gay man and take him shopping with me. I want to buy a new wardrobe.

I guess all I need to do is ask Waittz. lol.

Waittz you in Tampa or Miami?[/quote]

Orlando, but work brings me to miami often(originally from south florida as well).

You dont need a gay man, just a straight one with taste.

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
^^^That explains why all my belts get all torn up on the edges. I tend to buy just a reversible belt from Kohls and call it a day. If I went and spent some real money on a belt it would really last a longer time? I never really thought it would matter when the wear and tear is the same. I wear this belt 5 days/week every week…[/quote]

Bad news bears for many reasons.

Shoes and belts should be arguably the most expensive items of your wordrobe as a general rule. The reasoning is that they take the most brutal and frequent beatings. When you buy cheap shoes/belts you are just buying cheap leather, shitty old half dying cows with barb wire scares and PoW stories.

Most people tend to avoid spending alot on shoes, not realizing that a quality pair of good shoes can last up to decade if cared for and resoled every few years. $450 on a pair of wingtips might be scary at first but i have two solid paids from Allen Edmonds(my favorite brand and maybe the best American Shoe maker in my opinion) going on 3+ years and still look money.

Rules for shoes(and belts if leather):

Never wear the same pair twice in a row, or belt two days in a row. The moisture softens the leather and can lead to mishapened shows or growth of bacteria which breed odor. Shoes are not ment to take a beating twice in a row. Take them off and put in a cedar wood tree(dont skimp) which will let the leather dry around the right form and obsorb moisture and odor. You only need one, and it goes in the last pair you wore(salesmen will tell you to buy one per pair, which is dumb) unles you travel alot and might need two.

Mininum you need two pairs. Black lace ups and dark brown wingtips. The more pairs you have, the less wear each will get and they will all last longer. You eventually want to build up to 4-6 working pairs. Always shoot for rounded toe(feet are not square).

If you can only ever buy 4 pairs, get the two above, one pair of loafers with a high vamp(the toungue of the shoe) and one pair of monkstraps. Casual shoes like suede bucks and sneakers are aslo a need.

You need one black and brown formal belt(thinner and small understated buckle). One black and one brown belt for denim(thicker and more rugged). A cloth d-ring belt is good too.

Easiest way to see if a belt is quality or not is to fold it. It it gets all wrinkled and doesnt reshape easily dont buy it(this will blow you mind after the first time and save you a tone of shitty belts). Easiest way to see if a shoe is good is to buy from a brand with reputation which means you will have to pay good money or they will look like crap in less than a year.

On the subject of shoes, step your sock game up too. Through in some color, and dont wear old man socks even if you are old.

[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Waittz you should be charging for all this advice or making commission ahah.[/quote]

Nope, the moment I would charge is the moment it becomes ‘work’ by definition and the Tom Sawyer effect would kick in and I no longer would enjoy it.