So have I. As a matter of fact they were showing episodes from season 1 last night on adult swim, and Stewie has no homosexual overtones. NONE. [/quote]
Wasn’t Stewie wearing lipstick and shaving his ass around season one?
They avoided making him “gay” until recently as most of his jokes in the beginning were based around killing his mother or taking over the world. However, the hints were there right along with several jokes based off of him having a “sexy party” with Playboy playmates.
That doesn’t mean they decided to make him full blown gay because someone accused him of copying some cartoon character.
Also, no offense to Jimmy Corrigan, but that comic strip was unfunny and weak. Stewie is funny as hell to listen to. If that isn’t the greatest difference, I don’t know what is.
My understanding is that McFarlane and Family Guy are not well-liked by other shows, because McFarlane is seen as a hack (as the Cartoon Wars episodes pointed out), and he’s been accused of stealing other people’s ideas, namely the Stewie character from an obscure comic book. There’s a website about it, but I’ve forgotten the URL.
I didn’t think it was that weak, especially the Jimmy Corrigan-Stewie thing. It basiclly proves what I’ve thought all along. Family Guy steals from other shows and is highly overrated.[/quote]
All cartoons steal from what came before them. Simpsons steal from the Flintstones which was stolen from the Honeymooners.
The look of the kids in South Park is stolen from Peanuts.
"Don’t you ever, EVER compare me to Family Guy, you hear me, Kyle? Compare me to Family Guy again and so help me, I will kill you where you stand! Do you have any idea what it’s like?
Everywhere I go: ‘Hey Cartman you must like Family Guy, right?’ ‘Hey, your sense of humor reminds me of Family Guy, Cartman!’ I am nothing like Family Guy! When I make jokes they are inherent to a story! Deep, situational, and emotional jokes based on what is relevant and has a point, not just one random interchangeable joke after another!"
So have I. As a matter of fact they were showing episodes from season 1 last night on adult swim, and Stewie has no homosexual overtones. NONE.
Wasn’t Stewie wearing lipstick and shaving his ass around season one?
They avoided making him “gay” until recently as most of his jokes in the beginning were based around killing his mother or taking over the world. However, the hints were there right along with several jokes based off of him having a “sexy party” with Playboy playmates.
That doesn’t mean they decided to make him full blown gay because someone accused him of copying some cartoon character.
Also, no offense to Jimmy Corrigan, but that comic strip was unfunny and weak. Stewie is funny as hell to listen to. If that isn’t the greatest difference, I don’t know what is.[/quote]
No, that was around season 3. You’re gonna believe what you want, but facts are facts.
So have I. As a matter of fact they were showing episodes from season 1 last night on adult swim, and Stewie has no homosexual overtones. NONE.
Wasn’t Stewie wearing lipstick and shaving his ass around season one?
They avoided making him “gay” until recently as most of his jokes in the beginning were based around killing his mother or taking over the world. However, the hints were there right along with several jokes based off of him having a “sexy party” with Playboy playmates.
That doesn’t mean they decided to make him full blown gay because someone accused him of copying some cartoon character.
Also, no offense to Jimmy Corrigan, but that comic strip was unfunny and weak. Stewie is funny as hell to listen to. If that isn’t the greatest difference, I don’t know what is.[/quote]
I don’t see how having a sexy party with playboy playmates hints at one being gay.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
So have I. As a matter of fact they were showing episodes from season 1 last night on adult swim, and Stewie has no homosexual overtones. NONE.
Wasn’t Stewie wearing lipstick and shaving his ass around season one?
They avoided making him “gay” until recently as most of his jokes in the beginning were based around killing his mother or taking over the world. However, the hints were there right along with several jokes based off of him having a “sexy party” with Playboy playmates.
That doesn’t mean they decided to make him full blown gay because someone accused him of copying some cartoon character.
Also, no offense to Jimmy Corrigan, but that comic strip was unfunny and weak. Stewie is funny as hell to listen to. If that isn’t the greatest difference, I don’t know what is.
I don’t see how having a sexy party with playboy playmates hints at one being gay. [/quote]
I didn’t say it did. I was showing what they were focusing in on with his character INSTEAD of making him full blown gay. They threw in hints to it every year they’ve aired, however. It was only recently that they seem to have quit hinting and started going in the direction that there is no doubt at all.
The point is that his gayness wasn’t new, it just wasn’t defined and made clear that he was no doubt gay until this season. He’s been getting gayer and gayer every year.
That makes accusations that he just became gay to hide plagiarism plain wrong. It was a gradual process.
Holy shit, some of you take cartoons way too seriously. If you can’t watch Family Guy and get a good laugh, your just trying your damnedest to be a hater. I think South Park is a much better show, but I’ll never change the channel if Family Guy is on.
As far as them stealing stuff, whatever. Everything has already been done on TV at some point. If you can take an existing idea and make it better and funnier, well than that takes a certain type of brilliance. I don’t see people calling Jimi Hendrix an uncreative piece of crap because Bob Dylan wrote All Along the Watchtowers. All of the discussed shows steal from pop culture.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Holy shit, some of you take cartoons way too seriously. If you can’t watch Family Guy and get a good laugh, your just trying your damnedest to be a hater. I think South Park is a much better show, but I’ll never change the channel if Family Guy is on.
As far as them stealing stuff, whatever. Everything has already been done on TV at some point. If you can take an existing idea and make it better and funnier, well than that takes a certain type of brilliance. I don’t see people calling Jimi Hendrix an uncreative piece of crap because Bob Dylan wrote All Along the Watchtowers.
All of the discussed shows steal from pop culture.[/quote]
Along the same lines of that, I’d like to add that when I first started watching Family Guy I was stunned at how funny it was because I knew that most ideas for funny cartoons had been milked already. Another thing is the, “Oh it’s just a Simpsons or (insert any show that seems remotely similar to Family Guy) rip-off.”
That’s just way too easy because they are obviously going to have similarities AND it was clearly heavily inspired by the Simpsons and other shows/comics/etc. just like the Simpsons were inspired by older shows. I thought it was common knowledge that you take inspiration and ideas from people/things that came before you.
When something becomes great, people always try to knock it down a notch and this is no different.
I’m going to have to say Family guy > South Park. There really isn’t or hasn’t been anything else like it on tv…ever, atleast from the cartoon shows I have seen.
You do have to be somewhat intelligent to enjoy family guy, otherwise it just seems like a bunch of random jokes. Kudos to Seth Mcfarlane for his masterpiece.
Just saw Blue Harvest tonight for the first time. Freakin’ hilarious.
Then watched again with the commentary-- there are so many gags behind the scemes, like “Bender” from Futurama in the ‘bar scene’ where they meet Han Solo.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Just saw Blue Harvest tonight for the first time. Freakin’ hilarious.
Then watched again with the commentary-- there are so many gags behind the scemes, like “Bender” from Futurama in the ‘bar scene’ where they meet Han Solo.
All the Stewie as Darth Vader lines are epic.[/quote]
[quote]Makavali wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Just saw Blue Harvest tonight for the first time. Freakin’ hilarious.
Then watched again with the commentary-- there are so many gags behind the scemes, like “Bender” from Futurama in the ‘bar scene’ where they meet Han Solo.
All the Stewie as Darth Vader lines are epic.
“Oh, that was me… I made a Darth Doody”[/quote]
Darth Stewie talking about the Death Star and then spiraling into some rant about LA real estate was one of the funniest moments of the whole show. PLEASE someone explain to me how that’s “stealing” or somehow copied from The Simpsons.
Actually don’t because such an argument would be idiotic.
Family Guy as a whole has a completely different “feel” from any other cartoon. It would be very easy to make a show that’s purely offensive. Offensive does not automatically = funny. But Family Guy pulls it off.
The only similarities between Peter and Homer are that they’re overweight fathers with hot wives - and they’re cartoon characters. That alone is enough for people to start crying about stealing.
Another thing about Family Guy that is refreshing as hell is that there’s never any “lessons learned” or character growth (I think there was some in the first couple seasons but thankfully that was dropped). Everyone who starts off as an abusive asshole remains one. Just like Seinfeld. I don’t tune into a comedy show to watch characters become better people.
[quote]TermInNate wrote:
The only similarities between Peter and Homer are that they’re overweight fathers with hot wives - and they’re cartoon characters. That alone is enough for people to start crying about stealing.[/quote]
Because Fat idiot and hot wife has never been done before. It’s not like the Honeymooners or the Flintstones or just about every sitcom on TV does it.
Right?
… guys?
Well as long as I’m alone… PIGS… IN… SPACE!!! (echoes)
EDIT: Also, Stewie didn’t start out gay. You think maybe he changed when people started uncovering where the idea came from so Mcfarlane could deny that he blatantly stole the idea?[/quote]
Yes that’s exactly it! I can picture Seth McFarlane now, laughing and twirling his mustache, “Bwhahahaha! I changed his character just in time, they’ll NEVER CATCH ON to ME!!!” Then he leaps off into the night laughing maniacally and plotting what to steal next!
[quote]Makavali wrote:
TermInNate wrote:
The only similarities between Peter and Homer are that they’re overweight fathers with hot wives - and they’re cartoon characters. That alone is enough for people to start crying about stealing.
Because Fat idiot and hot wife has never been done before. It’s not like the Honeymooners or the Flintstones or just about every sitcom on TV does it.
Right?
… guys?
Well as long as I’m alone… PIGS… IN… SPACE!!! (echoes)[/quote]
