[quote]Vash wrote:
Futurama, though, seems to have the heart which the Simpsons used to.
Go back and watch the episode where fry finds his fossilized dog. I dare you.[/quote]
Yes indeed. Futurama to me is an extension of that golden era of the Simpsons. The newer episodes of the past 5 or 6 years are garbage compared the early years. It’s not even like they are the same show. The early Simpsons and South Park are probably my two favorites.
In addition to the dog episode, the one where Bender gets lost in space and becomes and then meets God is one of the deepest and most profound things I have seen on TV.
That is a great episode of Futurama, but the one that gets me is “Luck of the Fryrish” where he thinks that his older brother stole his 4 leaf clover and his name and became incredible succesful, but when he goes to steal it back, he finds out that he gave the clover to his son, and named his son after Fry in honor of him, it really kicks your soul in the groin.
Also, the first of the 4 Futurama movies, Bender’s Big Score was pretty deep to.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I can hardly wait until someone starts a thread similar to this one on Hawaii Five 0. Jack Lord, what a stud. 'Member that one, Mak?
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I used to watch that with my Dad as a kid. I couldn’t tell you a thing about it though. Other than the theme song.
[quote]The Mage wrote:
I assume you are referring to the South Park episode Cartoon Wars? They weren’t actually bashing Family Guy. Just ripping on them like everything else. Macfarlane jokingly referred to the show, and it looked like he got the joke.
South Park also has tried to get Seth Macfarlane. I believe they have an open invitation for him to voice there.
This episode was actually a reference to how Comedy Central was not allowing them to show Muhammad, and they used Family Guy as an allegory for themselves. (Although Muhammad did appear in their Super Best Friends episode.)
Back on topic, both of these shows have been able to make me laugh enough that I had to pause the shows to get my breath back. They both run with different political philosophies of course, and some people dislike either one because of that. Others just don’t “get it”, and that can go for either or both.[/quote]
Maybe they were joking, but I didn’t pick it up.
[/i]When South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone were questioned about the meanest thing ever said to them, Stone replied “When people say to me, ‘God, you guys have one of the best shows on television. You and Family Guy.’ That fucking hurts so bad”, to which Parker agreed: “Very well said. It’s such a kick in the balls.” Their opinions are showcased in the two-story arc “Cartoon Wars.” “Cartoon Wars Part I” aired on April 5, 2006 and “Part II” a week later on April 12.
In the DVD commentary, Parker and Stone state for the record their opinions on Family Guy. They say that although they respect the show for its fans and making people laugh, and having some smart humor, they ultimately hate the show itself and have absolutely no respect for it writing-wise, namely for its overuse of “gag-humor.” They compare the show’s reputation among other animated shows to the way serious musicians feel about Justin Timberlake.[/i]
Wikipedia? I tried to follow the link to the first quote, and couldn’t find it.
The second one didn’t have a link. The problem with these quotes is that if you do not hear them, you cannot know if they are serious, or just giving a load of crap. They can be serious, but often they are not.
I have not heard the commentary on the DVD myself. (Do not own it yet.)
Although they were interviewed in Reason Magazine, and had this response:
Parker: When we did the Muhammad episode, we got flowers from the Simpsons people because we ripped on Family Guy. Then we got calls from the King of the Hill people saying, “You’re doing God’s work ripping on Family Guy.” Even though it was this big political thing about Muhammad and whatever, everyone was just, “Thank you for you ripping on Family Guy.”
I am not even sure they actually got these exact responses from Simpsons and King of the Hill. But here they do point out that it was not a show about Family Guy, but about Muhammad.
They even joke that when it gets to the Mid-East, they will mistakenly think it was the Family Guy people and go after them instead.
Now on the South Park FAQ, for the question of how they feel about Family Guy, they say to watch the Cartoon Wars episode. (But again the FAQ is often full of jokes.)
I simply believe that fans are making it out to be more then it really is. (And I can see both enjoying it.)
[quote]Makavali wrote:
The Mage wrote:
I assume you are referring to the South Park episode Cartoon Wars? They weren’t actually bashing Family Guy. Just ripping on them like everything else. Macfarlane jokingly referred to the show, and it looked like he got the joke.
South Park also has tried to get Seth Macfarlane. I believe they have an open invitation for him to voice there.
This episode was actually a reference to how Comedy Central was not allowing them to show Muhammad, and they used Family Guy as an allegory for themselves. (Although Muhammad did appear in their Super Best Friends episode.)
Back on topic, both of these shows have been able to make me laugh enough that I had to pause the shows to get my breath back. They both run with different political philosophies of course, and some people dislike either one because of that. Others just don’t “get it”, and that can go for either or both.
Maybe they were joking, but I didn’t pick it up.
[/i]When South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone were questioned about the meanest thing ever said to them, Stone replied “When people say to me, ‘God, you guys have one of the best shows on television. You and Family Guy.’ That fucking hurts so bad”, to which Parker agreed: “Very well said. It’s such a kick in the balls.” Their opinions are showcased in the two-story arc “Cartoon Wars.” “Cartoon Wars Part I” aired on April 5, 2006 and “Part II” a week later on April 12.
In the DVD commentary, Parker and Stone state for the record their opinions on Family Guy. They say that although they respect the show for its fans and making people laugh, and having some smart humor, they ultimately hate the show itself and have absolutely no respect for it writing-wise, namely for its overuse of “gag-humor.” They compare the show’s reputation among other animated shows to the way serious musicians feel about Justin Timberlake.[/i][/quote]
South Park is funny and I will watch it when I get a chance but their writing often sucks too. They beat jokes absolutely to death and it is so damned preachy.
It would be far better if each episode was 1/2 as long.
[quote]The Mage wrote:
Wikipedia? I tried to follow the link to the first quote, and couldn’t find it.
The second one didn’t have a link. The problem with these quotes is that if you do not hear them, you cannot know if they are serious, or just giving a load of crap. They can be serious, but often they are not.
I have not heard the commentary on the DVD myself. (Do not own it yet.)
Although they were interviewed in Reason Magazine, and had this response:
Parker: When we did the Muhammad episode, we got flowers from the Simpsons people because we ripped on Family Guy. Then we got calls from the King of the Hill people saying, “You’re doing God’s work ripping on Family Guy.” Even though it was this big political thing about Muhammad and whatever, everyone was just, “Thank you for you ripping on Family Guy.”
I am not even sure they actually got these exact responses from Simpsons and King of the Hill. But here they do point out that it was not a show about Family Guy, but about Muhammad.
They even joke that when it gets to the Mid-East, they will mistakenly think it was the Family Guy people and go after them instead.
Now on the South Park FAQ, for the question of how they feel about Family Guy, they say to watch the Cartoon Wars episode. (But again the FAQ is often full of jokes.)
I simply believe that fans are making it out to be more then it really is. (And I can see both enjoying it.)
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My understanding is that McFarlane and Family Guy are not well-liked by other shows, because McFarlane is seen as a hack (as the Cartoon Wars episodes pointed out), and he’s been accused of stealing other people’s ideas, namely the Stewie character from an obscure comic book. There’s a website about it, but I’ve forgotten the URL.
My understanding is that McFarlane and Family Guy are not well-liked by other shows, because McFarlane is seen as a hack (as the Cartoon Wars episodes pointed out), and he’s been accused of stealing other people’s ideas, namely the Stewie character from an obscure comic book. There’s a website about it, but I’ve forgotten the URL.[/quote]
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
That is a great episode of Futurama, but the one that gets me is “Luck of the Fryrish” where he thinks that his older brother stole his 4 leaf clover and his name and became incredible succesful, but when he goes to steal it back, he finds out that he gave the clover to his son, and named his son after Fry in honor of him, it really kicks your soul in the groin.
Also, the first of the 4 Futurama movies, Bender’s Big Score was pretty deep to.
Excellent writing on that show.
–JB[/quote]
I really liked Bender’s big score. The second movie came out yesterday, and I plan on watching it before the week’s out. Futurama has some of the best lines in tv history. “I’ve never been good with words, which is why I’m in such a delicate conundrum.”
My understanding is that McFarlane and Family Guy are not well-liked by other shows, because McFarlane is seen as a hack (as the Cartoon Wars episodes pointed out), and he’s been accused of stealing other people’s ideas, namely the Stewie character from an obscure comic book. There’s a website about it, but I’ve forgotten the URL.
Damned weak case. Just because someone creates a character that looks similar to some other character, it does not mean it was copied. How many ways can you make a dog look? If he didn’t resemble Snoopy, they would say he resembled some other dog.
He sure as hell doesn’t ACT like Snoopy and that cartoon baby in that link doesn’t sound like Stewie at all. There’s a copyright on babies in comics that seem smarter than their age?
My understanding is that McFarlane and Family Guy are not well-liked by other shows, because McFarlane is seen as a hack (as the Cartoon Wars episodes pointed out), and he’s been accused of stealing other people’s ideas, namely the Stewie character from an obscure comic book. There’s a website about it, but I’ve forgotten the URL.
I didn’t think it was that weak, especially the Jimmy Corrigan-Stewie thing. It basiclly proves what I’ve thought all along. Family Guy steals from other shows and is highly overrated.
My understanding is that McFarlane and Family Guy are not well-liked by other shows, because McFarlane is seen as a hack (as the Cartoon Wars episodes pointed out), and he’s been accused of stealing other people’s ideas, namely the Stewie character from an obscure comic book. There’s a website about it, but I’ve forgotten the URL.
I didn’t think it was that weak, especially the Jimmy Corrigan-Stewie thing. It basiclly proves what I’ve thought all along. Family Guy steals from other shows and is highly overrated.[/quote]
What the living fuck does Stewie have in common with that character in that link?
A) They are both babies
B) they both use big words that babies shouldn’t know yet.
That’s it. Where is the desire to KILL his mother? No gay jokes?
Did you read the comparisons? They look EXACTLY alike, both are geniuses one is afraid of his mother and the other hates her. It’s not reaching Prof, it’s pinpointing. If you can’t see what’s right in front of you, you’re intentionally turning a blind eye to the facts.
EDIT: Also, Stewie didn’t start out gay. You think maybe he changed when people started uncovering where the idea came from so Mcfarlane could deny that he blatantly stole the idea?
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Did you read the comparisons? They look EXACTLY alike, both are geniuses one is afraid of his mother and the other hates her. It’s not reaching Prof, it’s pinpointing. If you can’t see what’s right in front of you, you’re intentionally turning a blind eye to the facts.
EDIT: Also, Stewie didn’t start out gay. You think maybe he changed when people started uncovering where the idea came from so Mcfarlane could deny that he blatantly stole the idea?[/quote]
What facts? They don’t look exactly alike. Most babies are drawn bald. Is that the similarity in appearance? The bald head? Stewie’s head is shaped like an extreme Nerf football, not just a mild oval. His sexuality was pretty damn ambiguous since day one. They simply removed the ambiguity lately and made him full blown flaming.
No offense, but I’ve seen every episode of that show. Stewie’s gay thoughts were there from pretty much the beginning.
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I can’t remember exactly what episode it was - I think it was the one where Quagmire slept with Loretta - but the scene began with Peter bringing a half dozen or so prostitutes into Cleveland�??s living room. At the end of the scene, Stewie says to one of the prostitutes, �??So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?�??
This is weird because �??throwing a hot dog down a hallway�?? sounds very much like �??throwing a hot dog down a hallway�??, a joke Whoopi Goldberg used in 1994 at her Friars Club Roast to describe sex with then boyfriend Ted Danson. Some may remember this because Danson wore blackface to the event. Not only does Family Guy steal, they steal from Whoopi Goldberg. That�??s fuckin weak.[/quote]
That’s ridiculous. Whoopie didn’t CREATE that joke as it’s old as hell.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
Did you read the comparisons? They look EXACTLY alike, both are geniuses one is afraid of his mother and the other hates her. It’s not reaching Prof, it’s pinpointing. If you can’t see what’s right in front of you, you’re intentionally turning a blind eye to the facts.
EDIT: Also, Stewie didn’t start out gay. You think maybe he changed when people started uncovering where the idea came from so Mcfarlane could deny that he blatantly stole the idea?
What facts? They don’t look exactly alike. Most babies are drawn bald. Is that the similarity in appearance? The bald head? Stewie’s head is shaped like an extreme Nerf football, not just a mild oval. His sexuality was pretty damn ambiguous since day one. They simply removed the ambiguity lately and made him full blown flaming.
No offense, but I’ve seen every episode of that show. Stewie’s gay thoughts were there from pretty much the beginning.[/quote]
So have I. As a matter of fact they were showing episodes from season 1 last night on adult swim, and Stewie has no homosexual overtones. NONE. And yes they do look exactly alike. Read the cartoon bubbles on the Jimmy Corrigan, they talk exactly alike as well. You can argue this all you want, but you’re wrong. I’m done arguing over an acknowledged fraud.
EDIT: I agree on the Whoopie thing, and that Brian was stolen from Snoopie. Some of those are a reach. And some are spot on.