Shitty. This is a hate crime. Felony charges should’ve been made. Legal system should be ashamed.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
And if this happened to a conceal and carry person you would be dealing with 2-3 dead black people at the hands of a white man.
Media frenzy ensues, man loses his job. Gets hate mail, death threats and has to move.
Why is the USA so backwards regarding such things? 3 pieces of shit attack somebody and they get away with it but wo-betide the white man for defending himself. [/quote]
Hard to fathom such a scenario. If he was carrying he’d probably make that evident as the argument escalated (this wasn’t a hit and run assault - they were trash talking beforehand). Only way they all die is if they all charged him, knowing he had a weapon (yeah…). If they attacked him at once he wouldn’t have a chance to shoot them. And I highly doubt it even reaches the point of the assailants attacking the wife and child if he was carrying (scare them off, shoots one).
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Hard to fathom?
I’ve seen enough CCTV videos to know personal space is a big issue with people getting threatened and they’re carrying.
Yes the perp would back off immediately but the possibility that he’d simply open fire is more than 50/50. Three hoodrats getting in your face as a white guy from a different area will be making your mind do all sorts of things. Nobody wants to be a victim of hoodrats when they could easily buy a gun and ask questions later.
He is alive, hoodrats are dead. The world is a better place.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
what if everyone should start attacking black people that dared to venture out of their predominantly black neighborhoods. Would that be racist? [/quote]
You mean…if they did that AGAIN?[/quote]
In other words because the family was white they are guilty of all white on black violence throughout world history and deserve revenge? [/quote]
You completely missed his point. The first quote stated “what if”. “IF.” There is no if as it has not only happened but still happens. Also, to use the word everyone implies that it is all black people who are attacking whites when the majority of blacks are not going around attacking whites and vice versa. Why does the behavior or actions of a few, in this case very few, somehow reflect on an entire race?
A couple of criminals who were black attack some white people and it is supposed to mean something about race relations? It’s signs of a race war? When (and I do mean when) a synagogue has a swastika painted on it does that mean all non-Jews are anti-Semites and another Holocaust is coming? [/quote]
I did not miss the point. I am so played out on this parallel of comparing a few criminals that act out to what is occurring all of the country. Keep telling yourself that line until it comes to your front door.
In my long life I have seen two camps. One refuses to accept blame for ANYTHING as a race. As a whole votes for Democrats 95% of the time. That says much about their culture. We are not all the same, never have been and never will be. Asians aren’t in the news six times a night for shooting deaths every night on your TV.
The other camp (white America) changes it behavior becomes culturally empathetic to diverse groups and changes it’s society and it’s LAWS. At the point when it becomes non racist towards other groups it is then preyed upon in horrendous rapes, murder, scammed and physically assaulted for being a different color. But you want me to believe this happens on rare occasions by a few criminals. I’ve got better things to do then argue with a dumb bell.
Lean Forward white America, you’ll end up on the floor like Elvis.
Bet against me that I can’t find thousands of cases like this one. The major media big news channels have for years been omitting stories like these by the thousands:
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You just sound scared to me and your fear wants company. I ask, what’s in it for you? I mean, you are speaking using the talking points of an agenda. Retorica degenerata. Save it for the simple minded.
What does the skin color of the victim and perp matter? Violence against innocents is bad.
Have any of the “he should have had his concealed weapon permit and shot all those guys” people every actually killed someone?
Obviously the way the story completely played out, deadly force was more than likely justified.
I think Baubers original post was meant to say that if the people from the story had a CW that things would have been drastically different had he pulled it.
The scenario would never has escalated the way it did and would not have needed deadly force.
That is the way I understood what he wrote but maybe I read it incorrectly.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
And that’s not to say the rest of the world is any better, although there are some model nations like mine and Canada. But to be the so-called global example of exceptionalism and “freedom,” you’d expect better. [/quote]
Really, things happen in your nation does it even make it on the internet? Much less the news.
When you are under a microscope everything is magnified.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
what if everyone should start attacking black people that dared to venture out of their predominantly black neighborhoods. Would that be racist? [/quote]
You mean…if they did that AGAIN?[/quote]
In other words because the family was white they are guilty of all white on black violence throughout world history and deserve revenge? [/quote]
Did I say that?
Nope, I didn’t. I said that it has happened to black people before on a very large scale. the post I was responding to was written as if it had never happened.
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I noticed you didn’t condemn this animal behavior. Maybe I misunderstood your reply. The black on white murder and assaults numbers have been a growing trend for years and there seems to be no national outrage. [/quote]
Possibly because skin color shouldn’t be the main issue.
Not sure what you mean as I rarely watch tv at all. I wasn’t aware I needed to write out that the act was bad for it to be understood I don’t condone it.
I responded very simply to a post that made it seem as if its’ premise hadn’t just happened a few years previous to an entire race…that is all.
It showed a lack of understanding of history, nothing more or less.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
What does the skin color of the victim and perp matter? Violence against innocents is bad.[/quote]
BINGO.
Trying to attach criminal intent to a SKIN COLOR is racist.
I am not more prone to rob you because my skin is darker than yours.
Maybe they should spend more time working out those social factors that contribute to crime rather than trying to attach a color to an act.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
You just sound scared to me and your fear wants company. I ask, what’s in it for you? I mean, you are speaking using the talking points of an agenda. Retorica degenerata. Save it for the simple minded. [/quote]
Agreed. He does sound scared…of the black people…because skin color somehow means you commit more crime…because colors are bad.
People with racist tendencies spend quite a bit of time trying to justify those tendencies so they can convince themselves that fear isn’t racist.
Saying “the blackies did it” sort of ruins it for them though.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
What does the skin color of the victim and perp matter? Violence against innocents is bad.[/quote]
BINGO.
Trying to attach criminal intent to a SKIN COLOR is racist.
I am not more prone to rob you because my skin is darker than yours.
Maybe they should spend more time working out those social factors that contribute to crime rather than trying to attach a color to an act.[/quote]
But dude, we all know black people are racist and robbers. So take your logic elsewhere, ok?
Edit- I live in the Southwest, and it was odd when I first moved here from Virginia in that I see very few black people, for whatever reason. But to everyone who thinks crime is a black thing, the crime here is the same. There are fewer people so its less overall, but per capita I would bet it is worse than where I lived in Virginia.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
What does the skin color of the victim and perp matter? Violence against innocents is bad.[/quote]
BINGO.
Trying to attach criminal intent to a SKIN COLOR is racist.
I am not more prone to rob you because my skin is darker than yours.
Maybe they should spend more time working out those social factors that contribute to crime rather than trying to attach a color to an act.[/quote]
But dude, we all know black people are racist and robbers. So take your logic elsewhere, ok?
Edit- I live in the Southwest, and it was odd when I first moved here from Virginia in that I see very few black people, for whatever reason. But to everyone who thinks crime is a black thing, the crime here is the same. There are fewer people so its less overall, but per capita I would bet it is worse than where I lived in Virginia.[/quote]
What’s worse is that according to what he wrote, I should be seen as a potential criminal…and not a man like him.
Yet this should also have no effect on society as a whole.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
What does the skin color of the victim and perp matter? Violence against innocents is bad.[/quote]
BINGO.
Trying to attach criminal intent to a SKIN COLOR is racist.
I am not more prone to rob you because my skin is darker than yours.
Maybe they should spend more time working out those social factors that contribute to crime rather than trying to attach a color to an act.[/quote]
But dude, we all know black people are racist and robbers. So take your logic elsewhere, ok?
Edit- I live in the Southwest, and it was odd when I first moved here from Virginia in that I see very few black people, for whatever reason. But to everyone who thinks crime is a black thing, the crime here is the same. There are fewer people so its less overall, but per capita I would bet it is worse than where I lived in Virginia.[/quote]
What’s worse is that according to what he wrote, I should be seen as a potential criminal…and not a man like him.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
What does the skin color of the victim and perp matter? Violence against innocents is bad.[/quote]
BINGO.
Trying to attach criminal intent to a SKIN COLOR is racist.
I am not more prone to rob you because my skin is darker than yours.
Maybe they should spend more time working out those social factors that contribute to crime rather than trying to attach a color to an act.[/quote]
But dude, we all know black people are racist and robbers. So take your logic elsewhere, ok?
Edit- I live in the Southwest, and it was odd when I first moved here from Virginia in that I see very few black people, for whatever reason. But to everyone who thinks crime is a black thing, the crime here is the same. There are fewer people so its less overall, but per capita I would bet it is worse than where I lived in Virginia.[/quote]
What’s worse is that according to what he wrote, I should be seen as a potential criminal…and not a man like him.
Yet this should also have no effect on society as a whole.[/quote]
What a shit world that would be, treating every minority as a potential criminal? No thanks. Conservativedog reminds me of the homeland security agent in the second Harold and Kumar, the guy who pretty much thinks everyone not white is a terrorist.
I have actually had the pleasure of living with 5 black males for the better part of a year… I was the only white male…
the things they said good lord… it is almost enough to make one believe that they are genetically inclined toward criminal activity
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
I have actually had the pleasure of living with 5 black males for the better part of a year… I was the only white male…
the things they said good lord… it is almost enough to make one believe that they are genetically inclined toward criminal activity[/quote]
The key is to understand we ALL think the same.
There is a pitch that only black men can hear where we can communicate like a hive mind.
If you ever see us walk past each other and nod…we are just trying to improve reception.
This is truth.
This is what I was referring to.
Secret mind talking? Fuck, I’m jealous about that.
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Secret mind talking? Fuck, I’m jealous about that.[/quote]
We call it “Ebony-net”.
Trust me…it is way cooler than cable.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:
Secret mind talking? Fuck, I’m jealous about that.[/quote]
We call it “Ebony-net”.
Trust me…it is way cooler than cable.[/quote]
Something tells me it would be a bad idea to google search “Ebony-Net”.