Common knowledge: Some plates used in many of Flex Magazine’s old photo shoots used to involve fake plates and/or digital enhancement of the number of plates used for a shoot (I wrote “old” because I think there has been a shift lately and some of those photos are being taken while they are actually training unlike in the past).
The only negative is that people will use this knowledge to then say that bodybuilders are weak which makes little sense to jump to as a conclusion. Standing in one position and smiling for several minutes as lights are adjusted and different angles are posed for would be a little difficult with 400lbs in your hand. Considering some of these pics are going for “perfection” and aren’t some caught in the moment attempt while someone is actually training, it makes sense. Fux nearly killed himself doing his maximum weight while in contest prep mode. I guess he felt that he had something to prove, that and I believe the photogropher was known for pushing his subjects to do more and more for the camera.
There is a large difference between acknowledging that some of those weights may not be real…and then using that to make a claim that the guys are so weak that they can’t lift real weight. The two don’t go together and many of those pics aren’t taken on the fly while someone is in the middle of training. They are posed, lighted and digitally corrected to highlight the bodybuilder.
JP used real plates in the photo shoot. I think it was about 500-600lb squat pose he was holding when his legs gave out. He’s recovered now, but he does walk with lots of knee extension (locking out). Looks kind of weird. As for any of the other shoots people do, just look at the bar flex and it should let you know if they’re real or not.
Glad the photog kept shooting rather than drop his camrea and go help-way to go a-hole! After having lived and trained in So Calif for almost 15 years-I can tell you this-most of the pics you see in Ironman-done at Nuveaux’s studio are totally fake.
Stallone claims the weights he used in the movie are real.
Sly,
My name is Rene Camacho, and I’m from Laredo, Texas. Question on your training: with three kids, a line of supplements, an acting career, and all the others obligations as a celebrity you have, how do you manage to make the time to stay in such great shape? Especially at your age! You’re the man.
p.s. do you really clean and press 225 in the movie, or is that just a prop? Thanks!
Reno
What you see in the movie is real. Except for the squats, which topped out at 400lbs. I work out 3 times a week and have been lucky enough to learn how to balance pigging out with proper eating the last half century or so, but everyone has their own body mechanics and it takes a lot of experimentation to find a proper balance, but I certainly recommend proper thermo-burning supplements at your local health-food store.
[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
When Keepin’ It Real Goes Wrong!
It was either 675 or 695 depending on the source.[/quote]
I remember that photo years ago. That was the ONLY time that I wished that all of a bodybuilder’s plates were fake. I think Chris Lund was the photographer?
As others have acknowledged fake plates happen all the time, in fact if you look closely the picture you will see the difference between the real and fake ones. They also almost always use a couple of real plates because the body has a certain “look” of being under the strain of weight, however 225 or 315 can’t mimic what happens to your body under 5, 6, or 700.
While I do agree with X that it must be tough sometimes to get a good picture with a lot of weight, I also feel that since sometimes they do get good pics with full weight they should just stick with that and use the real stuff. Also since the lifters still usually have 200-300 lbs on them, I doubt they are really in that position that long. Even somebody strong would have a hard time squatting halfway down and holding 300 for any length of time. What is even more annoying is when the lifters in those photos put on a bunch of fake plates and claim they can lift that much, when you can simply look at their form and realize if they actually used that much weight they would get crushed. In other words it is one thing if I can really squat 500, but since I have dieted down and am doing a photo shoot I put 500 on my back but it is fake. But what happens is you have a guy who can do 500 put 700 in fake weights on his back because it looks better and to me that is just deceitful.
[quote]uber9 wrote:
Stallone claims the weights he used in the movie are real.
Sly,
My name is Rene Camacho, and I’m from Laredo, Texas. Question on your training: with three kids, a line of supplements, an acting career, and all the others obligations as a celebrity you have, how do you manage to make the time to stay in such great shape? Especially at your age! You’re the man.
p.s. do you really clean and press 225 in the movie, or is that just a prop? Thanks!
Reno
What you see in the movie is real. Except for the squats, which topped out at 400lbs. I work out 3 times a week and have been lucky enough to learn how to balance pigging out with proper eating the last half century or so, but everyone has their own body mechanics and it takes a lot of experimentation to find a proper balance, but I certainly recommend proper thermo-burning supplements at your local health-food store.
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on that same website, someone says that they “finally saw rocky balboa”…as if it had been out for a while. i was under the impression it came out tomorrow. i cant imagine them having released it overseas before the U.S…anyone care to jump in here?
[quote]on that same website, someone says that they “finally saw rocky balboa”…as if it had been out for a while. i was under the impression it came out tomorrow. i cant imagine them having released it overseas before the U.S…anyone care to jump in here?
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They usually have special presentations or premieres a week or two before the official release date. I know that the website sponsors a 24-hour film festival called “Butt-Numb-A-Thon” which premiered Rocky Balboa on Dec 11 in Austin.
From the pictures i saw, itlooked like stallone was clean and pressing 315lbs not 225lbs. If the 315lbs was legit, thats impressive for a man his age, but also not too far fetched considering the resources he has access to.
[quote]Bootsie wrote:
but also not too far fetched considering the resources he has access to. [/quote]
This has already been discussed. It is IMPOSSIBLE that Stallone C&J’ed that weight. Period.
Relatedly: I take it you’ve never done much Olypic lifting, have you? It seems there are a lot of guys who think C&J’ing 315 is the same as benching 315.
i tried finding that discussion but couldnt, what was the post topic it was under?
Actual i have done olympic lifting and those numbers while somewhat impressive, imho are very attainable. Whether he lifted it or not who knows.
But i am curious to see others opinions if u have the link, thanks
