F**kedup Thing I've Seen W/ Regard to Relationships

[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
I was really into this girl, but didn’t want to be in this situation where I was her fuck toy/emotional tampon. I wanted full be with her and she wasn’t having it. [/quote]

Nevermind her for a second, this is where you fucked it up.

Though it doesn’t stop many of em from trying, men simply cannot “force” further commitment in a relationship; that’s the woman’s job.

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I agree with about 33% of this post.

No, OP didn’t screw up, at least not the way he tells it. He wanted to be more serious, he laid his cards out on the table, she said no thanks, and he walked (at least his version.) Sounds pretty solid to me.

True, nobody can force someone else into caring more.

False, same rules are going to apply to women trying to force it. They may get what they SAY they want (marriage, moving in together, whatever) but it will be held against them and ruin the relationship anyway. Or it’s because the guy misplaced his spine and isn’t likely to find it again (at least not in that relationship), so congrats, they’re living with/married to a wimp. Not what they wanted.[/quote]

You are thinking of a clingy woman but I do not think that this is what he is talking about.

The ancient deal is sexual access against investment from the side of the man.

So the woman decides if and when sex takes place the man, if and how much he invests into a relationship.

Once you sexed her your work is done for now, now lean back and make her work hard or else she will see you as an emotional slut.

This made it to where she would hook up with me, go out with me, but would never commit to just being with me permanently.

*** Boil all of this down to one plain and simple fact that Steve Harvey wrote a book about. If he/she is the one they will give you anything you ask. If they aren’t they will say no. In such a case move on and don’t look back.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
I was really into this girl, but didn’t want to be in this situation where I was her fuck toy/emotional tampon. I wanted full be with her and she wasn’t having it. [/quote]

Nevermind her for a second, this is where you fucked it up.

Though it doesn’t stop many of em from trying, men simply cannot “force” further commitment in a relationship; that’s the woman’s job.

[/quote]

I agree with about 33% of this post.

No, OP didn’t screw up, at least not the way he tells it. He wanted to be more serious, he laid his cards out on the table, she said no thanks, and he walked (at least his version.) Sounds pretty solid to me.

True, nobody can force someone else into caring more.

False, same rules are going to apply to women trying to force it. They may get what they SAY they want (marriage, moving in together, whatever) but it will be held against them and ruin the relationship anyway. Or it’s because the guy misplaced his spine and isn’t likely to find it again (at least not in that relationship), so congrats, they’re living with/married to a wimp. Not what they wanted.[/quote]

You are thinking of a clingy woman but I do not think that this is what he is talking about.

The ancient deal is sexual access against investment from the side of the man.

So the woman decides if and when sex takes place the man, if and how much he invests into a relationship.

Once you sexed her your work is done for now, now lean back and make her work hard or else she will see you as an emotional slut.[/quote]

The ancient deal is actually sexual exclusivity in exchange for male investment.

[quote]Silyak wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
I was really into this girl, but didn’t want to be in this situation where I was her fuck toy/emotional tampon. I wanted full be with her and she wasn’t having it. [/quote]

Nevermind her for a second, this is where you fucked it up.

Though it doesn’t stop many of em from trying, men simply cannot “force” further commitment in a relationship; that’s the woman’s job.

[/quote]

I agree with about 33% of this post.

No, OP didn’t screw up, at least not the way he tells it. He wanted to be more serious, he laid his cards out on the table, she said no thanks, and he walked (at least his version.) Sounds pretty solid to me.

True, nobody can force someone else into caring more.

False, same rules are going to apply to women trying to force it. They may get what they SAY they want (marriage, moving in together, whatever) but it will be held against them and ruin the relationship anyway. Or it’s because the guy misplaced his spine and isn’t likely to find it again (at least not in that relationship), so congrats, they’re living with/married to a wimp. Not what they wanted.[/quote]

You are thinking of a clingy woman but I do not think that this is what he is talking about.

The ancient deal is sexual access against investment from the side of the man.

So the woman decides if and when sex takes place the man, if and how much he invests into a relationship.

Once you sexed her your work is done for now, now lean back and make her work hard or else she will see you as an emotional slut.[/quote]

The ancient deal is actually sexual exclusivity in exchange for male investment. [/quote]

true

[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
This is true, but I’m sure we’ve all been in situations where we have been a little too into someone for our own good. Just have to learn from it.[/quote]

All too true…

[quote]KBCThird wrote:
I agree with about 33% of this post.

No, OP didn’t screw up, at least not the way he tells it. He wanted to be more serious, he laid his cards out on the table, she said no thanks, and he walked (at least his version.) Sounds pretty solid to me.

True, nobody can force someone else into caring more.

False, same rules are going to apply to women trying to force it. They may get what they SAY they want (marriage, moving in together, whatever) but it will be held against them and ruin the relationship anyway. Or it’s because the guy misplaced his spine and isn’t likely to find it again (at least not in that relationship), so congrats, they’re living with/married to a wimp. Not what they wanted.[/quote]

I get the sense you’re hung up on the equality that “ought” to exist within a (healthy) relationship.

But this is a myth – for which modern university education is prob most culpable – that can often do more harm than good. For example, it’s never correct for a man to lay out his cards on the table feelings-wise; that’s the woman’s job.

Sexual polarity is very real, but of course it doesn’t follow that men are superior to women in any way. Rather, the focus should be on “being complementary” versus “being equal” within a relationship.

[quote]chillain wrote:
I get the sense you’re hung up on the equality that “ought” to exist within a (healthy) relationship.

But this is a myth – for which modern university education is prob most culpable – that can often do more harm than good. For example, it’s never correct for a man to lay out his cards on the table feelings-wise; that’s the woman’s job.

Sexual polarity is very real, but of course it doesn’t follow that men are superior to women in any way. Rather, the focus should be on “being complementary” versus “being equal” within a relationship.

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Finding all kinds of gems in this thread. Complementary rather than equal is an excellent way to describe it.

[quote]KBCThird wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
I was really into this girl, but didn’t want to be in this situation where I was her fuck toy/emotional tampon. I wanted full be with her and she wasn’t having it. [/quote]

Nevermind her for a second, this is where you fucked it up.

Though it doesn’t stop many of em from trying, men simply cannot “force” further commitment in a relationship; that’s the woman’s job.

[/quote]

I agree with about 33% of this post.

No, OP didn’t screw up, at least not the way he tells it. He wanted to be more serious, he laid his cards out on the table, she said no thanks, and he walked (at least his version.) Sounds pretty solid to me.

True, nobody can force someone else into caring more.

False, same rules are going to apply to women trying to force it. They may get what they SAY they want (marriage, moving in together, whatever) but it will be held against them and ruin the relationship anyway. Or it’s because the guy misplaced his spine and isn’t likely to find it again (at least not in that relationship), so congrats, they’re living with/married to a wimp. Not what they wanted.[/quote]

Hog wash. In order for a man to “seduce” or “charm” a woman, he has to with hold or conceal his intentions.

Laying all your cards out is counter productive to the end of becoming serious.

It’d be interesting to hear her side of the situation. You assume a lot… without taking into consideration her point of view on anything. According to you, someone she never even wanted to commit to, her life and all her decisions somehow revolve around you…which I guarantee is not true, she probably had a lot more going on than you even know about, maybe even other guys you don’t know about… She has issues no doubt, but I think this chick has been in your head a little too much, somewhere deep inside you still crave something about her.

[quote]MikeRich928 wrote:
It’d be interesting to hear her side of the situation. You assume a lot… without taking into consideration her point of view on anything. According to you, someone she never even wanted to commit to, her life and all her decisions somehow revolve around you…which I guarantee is not true, she probably had a lot more going on than you even know about, maybe even other guys you don’t know about… She has issues no doubt, but I think this chick has been in your head a little too much, somewhere deep inside you still crave something about her. [/quote]

x2.

It’s a natural human emotion, I guess, but I’m surprised how often people assume that every decision someone else makes is about them when that may or may not actually be the case.

[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:

[quote]MikeRich928 wrote:
It’d be interesting to hear her side of the situation. You assume a lot… without taking into consideration her point of view on anything. According to you, someone she never even wanted to commit to, her life and all her decisions somehow revolve around you…which I guarantee is not true, she probably had a lot more going on than you even know about, maybe even other guys you don’t know about… She has issues no doubt, but I think this chick has been in your head a little too much, somewhere deep inside you still crave something about her. [/quote]

x2.

It’s a natural human emotion, I guess, but I’m surprised how often people assume that every decision someone else makes is about them when that may or may not actually be the case.[/quote]

x3

all i can take from this is that the one chick must be really hot and or a really good lay and OP still kinda wishes that she was sane enough to be in a relationship with, so lets see pic of this she-devil…?

bitches be crazy