F*ck Dumbell Rows

I’m going to come back to these later on I’ll replace them with regular pullups and neutral grip pullups.

I usually do pull ups before rows to get a better MMC with the movement.

I usually do 9001 reps on the first set of my pullups.

[quote]watermelon29 wrote:
I usually do 9001 reps on the first set of my pullups.[/quote]
It’s over 9000! LOL

How does my DB row form look? I think it’s about right, i feel that im pulling with the lats and not the arm like most people seem to, the only thing im wondering is if im right to let my arm stretch right down at the bottom to feel the stretch, but that seems to be the way meadows does them as well. I just get a bit paranoid because im using 100lbs DB and most people in the gym seem to use half that, but i feel that im doing it right.

Imo the best back exercise, sure im new to BB but i’ve been a powerlifter for years and when switched out BB rows to DB rows to my lats more or less exploded.
I do them the original way on a bench and bent over holding my other hand on the DB stand, the most important thing with this movement is that you focus on pulling with your elbow.
It should be a bit above the hip in the top of the movement, the fella in the video above clearly uses a weight he can’t handle since he only gets half way up.
Also get a full stretch at the end of the movement.

Above the hip? how is that even possible? I pull it in till it touches my hip any further and your turning the movement into a tricep kickback.

i agree with the OP. i suck at db rows, and i have to really use light weights with very strict form and “feel” the contraction of my upper back to get anything from them

i see vids all the time of people who have put nowhere close to the numbers i have in the BIG back exercises (deadlifts, high pulls, rack pulls, etc. ) who can do ridiculous weights in this movement.

i also have seen way to many people with very average back development using stoopid weight on this exercise.

my new favorite back exercise is the Meadows row, and straight arm “back-shrugs” from various levels on an incline bench.

[quote]stinger70 wrote:
Above the hip? how is that even possible? I pull it in till it touches my hip any further and your turning the movement into a tricep kickback.[/quote]

Very doable:)

That guy is using about 2% of his 1RM lol. Watch the video of john meadows doing rows, his elbow doesnt come above his torso. Dorian yates always said if you cant hold the contraction then you are using too much weight, i do a very slight pause at the top of my rows and i’ve tried and can hold the top position no problem. IMO, not that my physique gives me room to talk, but i feel my lats working well with DB rows and i think if you dont go really heavy and overload the muscles then the lats dont get activated.

[quote]stinger70 wrote:
That guy is using about 2% of his 1RM lol. Watch the video of john meadows doing rows, his elbow doesnt come above his torso. Dorian yates always said if you cant hold the contraction then you are using too much weight, i do a very slight pause at the top of my rows and i’ve tried and can hold the top position no problem. IMO, not that my physique gives me room to talk, but i feel my lats working well with DB rows and i think if you dont go really heavy and overload the muscles then the lats dont get activated. [/quote]

He’s using a light weight just for demonstration, but i agree, that’s a bit to high.
And you’re lats will get activated even without a weight, you can’t do that movement without activating you’re lat.

So whats the difference between one arm dumbbell rows and one arm barbell rows?

@Stinger you don’t need to embed the video just pasting the URL will work.

[quote]AScic1 wrote:
So whats the difference between one arm dumbbell rows and one arm barbell rows? [/quote]

Different tools same movement, or well, if you use a bench for DB rows you’re working in a different angle.
And DB rows are more time efficient because you wont need to place a barbell against a wall and load on plates.

[quote]AScic1 wrote:
So whats the difference between one arm dumbbell rows and one arm barbell rows? [/quote]

Different tools same movement, or well, if you use a bench for DB rows you’re working in a different angle.
And DB rows are more time efficient because you wont need to place a barbell against a wall and load on plates.