Extreme Dedication to Lifting

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]Der Candy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
DLboy wrote:
conner wrote:
DLboy wrote:
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Fine, then don’t say people are stupid because THEY take it seriously and pass up on stupid, pointless social opportunities to lift and eat.

Sounds like a formula for a lonely, boring life to me. Humans are social creatures, hence social opportunities are not pointless, being self absorbed is though.

While I didn’t write the post you are replying to, I want to make a point.

Who says that by being very dedicated to lifting you have to forfeit all social opportunities and be a lonely, bitter bastard for your whole life?

I don’t go out. This is because whenever the guys I know go out they just go drinking and do jack-shit with their time. I think they do this because they have no concept of bettering themselves or having goals in life. These are the same people who scoff at their grades and think weightlifting and health are ‘boring’ and are desperate to get blown at a party by some random blonde. I realize these guys do that because they just don’t know what else to do. I honestly believe they somehow lack passion and drive in their lives.

As I said I don’t go out with my friends. Instead I use my weekends and evenings to do the best I can in terms of my diets, training knowledge and rest. It matters to me. Training and nutrition do more for me than any ‘normal’ person will ever realize. I truly believe I am at a different state of mind when I lift. I feel so much emotion and euphoria when dedicating myself to training I cannot possibly imagine a life without utter dedication to this past-time.

I have no trouble meeting people. Sure, I don’t open up easily to new people and I am pretty quiet around those I don’t know, but I have always been this way. I am just introverted.

So you know, I have no idea why someone should think people like me have no hope in having friends or being socially successful. The difference between me and my drinking friends, is that I know what to do with my time. I have priorities, and goals in my life.
That’s me, and while I understand your post was directed entirely at someone else, it annoys me that people make those kind of statements.[/quote]

[EDIT]: Actually, you have a point.
I have no business judging what or how others live their lives. I apologize.

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I want to say one other thing and I can’t even remember who this is dedicated to, but to the people that put lifting way above everything else mostly.

I was just now driving back from the gym and it was pouring rain outside. I didn’t bring my post workout shake to the gym with me like normal so that was priority number one on my way back. Until I saw a girl walking the direction I was going and pulled over and asked if she wanted a ride, she thanked me and got in. Under her hood and bookbag she was covering her head with was a cute as button girl with a big smile on her face.

Now someone “dedicated” might have blown right past her en route to those precious carbs and protein, but since I’m obviously not as dedicated as the hardcore people here I suppose, I now am forced to go hang out with this girl tomorrow night and I’m typing her phone number into my cell now, oh and drinking my PWO shake although I must admit it’s 10 minutes late.

Maybe if I completely isolated myself and not let anything get in my way I could have gained .000001 more ounces of muscle today.

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Dude that’s fucked up I can’t believe you FORGOT your PWO shake I hate when that shit happens. It’s like you’re totally not thinking about one of the most important things as you’re getting ready for the gym. Like all you can think about is setting a deadlift PR so you’re just visualizing it. It’s alright dude, you probably didn’t go catabolic for that long.

j/k :slight_smile:

[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I want to say one other thing and I can’t even remember who this is dedicated to, but to the people that put lifting way above everything else mostly.

I was just now driving back from the gym and it was pouring rain outside. I didn’t bring my post workout shake to the gym with me like normal so that was priority number one on my way back. Until I saw a girl walking the direction I was going and pulled over and asked if she wanted a ride, she thanked me and got in. Under her hood and bookbag she was covering her head with was a cute as button girl with a big smile on her face.

Now someone “dedicated” might have blown right past her en route to those precious carbs and protein, but since I’m obviously not as dedicated as the hardcore people here I suppose, I now am forced to go hang out with this girl tomorrow night and I’m typing her phone number into my cell now, oh and drinking my PWO shake although I must admit it’s 10 minutes late.

Maybe if I completely isolated myself and not let anything get in my way I could have gained .000001 more ounces of muscle today. [/quote]

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Just today, sitting on the bus, I remembered this one guy who told to me in a quiet, and sad voice that it would be great if he knew what he would do with his life. And then I thought its great I know exactly what Im going to do with my life. And Im going to enjoy doing it. And I´m not going to sacrifice one thing for it. Because I dont have to.

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Um, way to take it completely literally. I’m talking about those idiots that think they can make it to the top by getting drunk every weekend.

Worrying about being late to your precious post workout shake is not dedicated, it’s obsessive compulsive. You missed the point completely. Good for the poster who said they picked up some chick. Feel e-superior to me yet?

As for the person saying “Yeah like everyone can make it to WSM or the Olympia” sarcastically, piss off. You’re probably a complete loser whose deadlift stays the same year after year. Sadly though, you’re correct, but only because of my next point.

I don’t know about you people, but I’m working for the top. I don’t give a damn what anyone says. The only thing limiting most people are their STUPID MINDSETS.

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[quote]DLboy wrote:
conner wrote:
DLboy wrote:
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Fine, then don’t say people are stupid because THEY take it seriously and pass up on stupid, pointless social opportunities to lift and eat.[/quote]

Fuck off, kid, I never said anything of the sort.

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[quote]DLboy wrote:
I don’t know about you people, but I’m working for the top. I don’t give a damn what anyone says. The only thing limiting most people are their STUPID MINDSETS.[/quote]

Just because they’re not the same as you doesn’t make them stupid.

If you want to go hard, go hard and more power to you. But you don’t need to judge others who have different priorities.

If you spend your time thinking about others and how stupid they are, that’s time wasted that you could’ve been working on yourself.

It’s a sign of low self esteem. Big muscles won’t help you there.

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First of all, conner, or should I say “kid” or Mr. “I’ve been training for barely one year”. I could probably rep your deadlift max for 10’s and not break a sweat. So you fuck off.

I never said it was bad to not shoot for the top. I said the people saying its IMPOSSIBLE to get to the top are idiotic. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to anyone who just has fitness goals, but for some of these immature kids on this forum to say “blah blah blah, don’t bother being dedicated, you just have no social life, its impossible to get to the top”, THEY can piss off.

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You guys all sound like a bunch of animal pak emos, haha.

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[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
You guys all sound like a bunch of animal pak emos, haha.[/quote]

hahah yeah that’s what I was thinking too.

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[quote]DLboy wrote:

Worrying about being late to your precious post workout shake is not dedicated, it’s obsessive compulsive. You missed the point completely. Good for the poster who said they picked up some chick. Feel e-superior to me yet?
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Did I address you?

I wanted to make a somewhat playful remark about how some people need to stay level headed about this hobby/lifestyle we have. I thought it was funny and someone might get a kick out of it but I can clearly see you did not. This thread shouldn’t be about I’m so dedicated RARRR!!! I know what I do everyday, you don’t, nor do I know what you do.

All I’m going to say is that I’m doing what it takes whatever is in my power to advance as a recreational bodybuilder at the quickest rate possible that fits my morals as they stand now. I don’t need to come on the interwebz to tell people how hardcore I am, I have the logbook and the old wardrobes to let me know how hard I’ve worked.

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As for the person saying “Yeah like everyone can make it to WSM or the Olympia” sarcastically, piss off. You’re probably a complete loser whose deadlift stays the same year after year. Sadly though, you’re correct, but only because of my next point.

I don’t know about you people, but I’m working for the top. I don’t give a damn what anyone says. The only thing limiting most people are their STUPID MINDSETS.[/quote]

I think this was me too haha. My point was that some people are delusional about what they are capable of. If you think you have what it takes to be at the top of the game somewhere then pursue it and don’t let anyone stop you. For what I’m doing right now(bodybuilding) I know where I stand on the todum pole in terms of genetic potential. I think I can look pretty damn good in a few years but I’ll never be an elite bodyuilder, because I have spent enough time looking and talking to people to understand this.

I had a thread about this a little while ago about genetics mostly in the context of bodybuilding. You have to be an alien to be competetive in todays pro or top amateur bodybuilding world. Guys like me(the vast majority) that struggle to gain muscular size while staying relatively lean are NEVER going to be able to step on stage with the guy that gained so fast he doesn’t even know why. Or the guy who’s muscle bellies are full and round while some of mine are short, and my frame is not classicaly set up for bodybuilding.

If I work the same or even relatively harder next to a guy born with Flex Wheeler gentics I’m going to look like an amatuer next to them(rightfully so). I’m going to leave it at that because if you don’t agree with me here there’s no use discussing this.

My dead lifts are fine, thanks for assuming though.

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hey scottiscool by the way i thought when the pw shake and girl thing was funny.

But if you don’t wanna be the best then why try at all? I’ve had plenty of people tell me i couldn’t do stuff in my life already and i’ve proved them all wrong.

For example i think that people told Arnold he would never make it because he had high calves.

I guess all i’m saying is not to give up on dreams because other people are too scared to give everything for them

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[quote]DLboy wrote:
First of all, conner, or should I say “kid” or Mr. “I’ve been training for barely one year”. I could probably rep your deadlift max for 10’s and not break a sweat. So you fuck off.

I never said it was bad to not shoot for the top. I said the people saying its IMPOSSIBLE to get to the top are idiotic. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to anyone who just has fitness goals, but for some of these immature kids on this forum to say “blah blah blah, don’t bother being dedicated, you just have no social life, its impossible to get to the top”, THEY can piss off.[/quote]

No, what you DID do was order me to not say people are stupid for taking their lifting seriously, when I never said anything like that to begin with. That is the issue, and it’s a clear cut one.

If you can’t reread your post and grasp that, then my guess is you considered 6th grade English to be one of those “stupid, pointless social opportunities” worth skipping for some of those deadlifts you seem oh-so-proud of (looove the e-machismo, by the way).

Got it? Or do you want to keep arguing? I’m just asking, as there’s only so much effort I’m willing to give in order to drill that into your thick little skull.

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Scottiscool, I didn’t mean to offend you. You’re probably right about bodybuilding - I myself have a genetic deformity with my chest which would kill my score in any bodybuilding contest (although I don’t train for that).

However, I think genetics play less of a role in the strength sports. Sure some guys can get strong pretty fast, but genetics (and drugs) only take them so far.

Conner I see what happened. I just saw your post and I didn’t necessarily aim it towards you, but everyone in the thread.

I respect anyone who isn’t shooting for the top. Fine. But don’t say that it’s impossible to get to the top. That’s what a lot of pros heard when they were early in training.

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[quote]DLboy wrote:
First of all, conner, or should I say “kid” or Mr. “I’ve been training for barely one year”. I could probably rep your deadlift max for 10’s and not break a sweat. So you fuck off.

I never said it was bad to not shoot for the top. I said the people saying its IMPOSSIBLE to get to the top are idiotic. I don’t mean to be disrespectful to anyone who just has fitness goals, but for some of these immature kids on this forum to say “blah blah blah, don’t bother being dedicated, you just have no social life, its impossible to get to the top”, THEY can piss off.[/quote]

Yeah a 5’0 guy can totally make into into the NBA if he just tries :rolleseyes: Or a 7’3 guy will totally be setting records in powerlifting. It “IS” impossible to get to the top if you aren’t built for it-or have the money and drugs to do it also-

I’m not saying don’t train as hard as you can, its just silly to tell someone they can do something when obviously they wont.

I take lifting seriously along with my diet as much as I can. Yet its not my number 1 priority when it comes to life. Yet I can respect people who want to make it their number 1 priority in life, but to say its bad for others not to is wrong.

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[quote]DLboy wrote:
Scottiscool, I didn’t mean to offend you. You’re probably right about bodybuilding - I myself have a genetic deformity with my chest which would kill my score in any bodybuilding contest (although I don’t train for that).

However, I think genetics play less of a role in the strength sports. Sure some guys can get strong pretty fast, but genetics (and drugs) only take them so far.

Conner I see what happened. I just saw your post and I didn’t necessarily aim it towards you, but everyone in the thread.

I respect anyone who isn’t shooting for the top. Fine. But don’t say that it’s impossible to get to the top. That’s what a lot of pros heard when they were early in training.
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No offense taken really, it’s just the internet after all haha. Yes I agree genetics do play less of a defining role in strength sports but we are posting in the bodybuilding section so that’s why I posted in that manner. It’s something I’m far more familiar with in terms of realizing potential and common traits that favor someone pursuing it over say powerlifting.

It’s certianely not impossible to get to the top since there are people there, but I was referring to sports where you can see your genetic potential within a short time frame of pursuing it(like bodybuilding). I will fight to get to the top, of my genetic ability at least, in this game but in the end I won’t do some of the things others are willing to do to try to be competetive.