[quote]kcinnitram91 wrote:
Real lifters are the guys in the gym saturday morning when everyone else is too hungover to go. [/quote]
QFT. Free reign over the equipment on Saturday mornings is always a plus, especially if its a university gym.
Myself being a college student I have been to many parties and in my opinion am extremely dedicated to training. In no way is lifting my life. However I don’t drink and often take shit for it from my friends. Not drinking is a personal choice for me because one day I want to be the Natural Mr. Olympia.
I agree that there has to be a balance. Everyone has to realize that people lift for different reasons. In my prior post I was simply saying that the person who first made it was trying to overglorify himself. Thats all, I also respect everyones opinion in here so hopefully they will respect mine.
To me, it’s all about moderation. Thursday-Saturday, I’ll drink a decent amount 2 out of those 3 nights. I’ll have a cheat meal on one of those nights and the other night, I’ll eat as usual. I use the 90% rule when making those decisions. Out of the entire week, getting drunk twice and having one cheat meal do not affect me enough that I have not been making progress that I am satisfied with.
Threads like these are pointless anyway since we are debating over our personal definitions of dedication. It’s all relative. Do what makes you happy and satisfied.
[quote]Sxio wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
I still DO think it’s sad if someone’s going to blow off a party or a movie because they have workout programmed for the next morning. You could meet the greatest girl you’ve ever seen at that party and have the best night of your life. But you’ll never know if you never go.
Like the quote says, you miss 100% of the shots you don’t make.
I mean, if I’m not going to use my body to get me laid more often then what the hell am I doing??? What’s the point of having a good physique if the only people who see it are the ones at the gym?[/quote]
Once you start getting invited to a lot of parties you can choose which ones you go to and which ones you avoid for the sake of training. Training isn’t solely about what other people think about you, it’s for yourself. A person in damn good shape FEELS better than someone who doesn’t train. Not in the “I’m better than everyone else” way, but you feel better.
this whole thread is funny as shit.
i have broken my nose at least once, although i think twice. both times from being punched in the face. i know that it was broken because although i never went to the doctor for the nose, i did go to a doctor a couple months after the second punch to get some head scans, and although the doc found nothing wrong with my brain, he was able to show me a very interesting view of my nose, and informed me that it was severely hooked to one side. thankfully, i have a small nose, so from the outside you cant tell at all.
although i never went to the doc for the nose, it definitely hurt like shit both times i was punched. i also definitely had black eyes under each eye that lasted several weeks. as far as the blood, i cant say that it spurted out, but it definitely flowed pretty nice, for a good amount of time on both occasions.
there is no fucking way, that if i had been training during these instances, that i could have continued. theres just no fucking way. you dont “wipe the blood away” when you break your nose, you grab whatever old t-shirt or towel is nearest you, bunch that shit up, and wait for your nose to decide that its done bleeding.
lets break this down even further, because i think its hilarious…
dumbells with collars…
what individual that is “extremely dedicated” to lifting is even lifting with a dumbell that uses a collar. the type of individual that is “extremely dedicated” (as someone has pointed out, has actually achieved something noteworthy directly related to their lifting) will not be using dumbells that require a collar. they will be using the set-weight dumbells, because since they are so “extremely dedicated” they have long since graduated from the little bullshit bells with the collars.
now, about those collars…does the fact that they are rusty make you that much more hardcore, or just that much more of an idiot. if youre so “extremely dedicated” and use your equipment all the time, id think youd want to be handling equipment that isnt going to give you an infection.
and what about 12:15am…what the fuck does that have to do with any of it? you’re so hardcore and “extremely dedicated” because you work out after midnight? fuck that shit, get your ass to bed EARLY, say 8pm, and then get yourself into the gym bangin iron around 4:45am. then you can begin to write stupid threads on the one internet site that has probably the biggest gathering of dedicated lifters around (not to mention a shit-ton of pencil-neck twerps that would rather ask BS questions and argue about lifting dogma than actually lift a fucking weight) about how “extremely dedicated” you are.
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO THIS SITE?!
[quote]tonyc wrote:
I spend in hour in the gym 4 times a week. I go in, get my shit done and then I get out. [/quote]
Can’t you just use the public toilet like everyone else?
(just kidding)
[quote]TKL wrote:
kcinnitram91 wrote:
Real lifters are the guys in the gym saturday morning when everyone else is too hungover to go.
QFT. Free reign over the equipment on Saturday mornings is always a plus, especially if its a university gym.
[/quote]
well said. complete agreement here
Same for me but its sundays that are amazing. SANCTUARY X 10
except for when the decide to vaccum. But hey I throw on my ipod and it all goes away
whats wrong with dumbells with collars? Its way cheaper than getting set weight and if you need more weight you can just go get a couple more plates(IE only paying for 50lbs instead of 200 lbs).
[quote]rander wrote:
whats wrong with dumbells with collars? Its way cheaper than getting set weight and if you need more weight you can just go get a couple more plates(IE only paying for 50lbs instead of 200 lbs).[/quote]
i agree it’s cheaper and produces the same result, although i use the dumbbells with screw on collars which i feel generate the best bang for your buck
I have to use dumbells with collars saves space, money, etc,
First, I used to have dumbbells with collars when I lifted in my basement. I had them out of necessity like you guys have said, but there’s a lot a lot wrong with them. They suck so bad, and they aren’t the same; the exercise are limited (i never felt safe doing a french press with them for instance.).
One time I dropped a 10 pounder on my toe and freakin almost died. Idk what it is, but when I hurt my toes, it hurts way worse than most places. I hadn’t broken it, so I finished. Was that stupid? Yeah probably. No point in taking a risk just to finish half a training session. It won’t set you back that much missing that little bit.
“The most useful thing I’ve learned in college is that I’m not invincible anymore.”
-Justin Jones
Every single one of my injuries in the weight room has been a result of not listening to my body and trying to keep working. Whether it’s because of pride or in my case a football coach yelling at you, you need to be smart.
Also, people talking about being hardcore are way silly. Who really cares? It’s really really hardcore to never miss a meal, to never have an unplanned cheat meal. It’s hardcore never to miss a lift. If bodybuilding is your life, then you need to be this hardcore about it. If not, then let it be ok that you aren’t that hardcore, and give these guys your respect. It’s amazing that people can do that, and it’s ok to be dedicated to more than just lifting.
It’s locker room talk, and it’s juvenile. In football this is how we talk almost exclusively. It’s 100 percent pure pride. Some of you talk like there’s only one best way to live your life or to lift. Some of you say if you don’t ever go out and have fun, then you aren’t having a complete life. Or some say that if you aren’t 100 percent dedicated then you are worthless. It’s ridiculous. And I know that noone is coming out and saying that. So maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m misreading things and taking them too seriously. But when i’m in the football locker room, nobody takes things seriously because we all know it’s just talk.
I felt like I wrote a novel, but honestly, every other thread degenerates into this kind of thing. It should be understood by every one.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
rander wrote:
whats wrong with dumbells with collars? Its way cheaper than getting set weight and if you need more weight you can just go get a couple more plates(IE only paying for 50lbs instead of 200 lbs).
i agree it’s cheaper and produces the same result[/quote]
my gym has set dumbells that go up to 150lbs. have you seen a dumbell secured with a collar that goes up to 150lbs? that would be approximately 7 10 lb plates on each side. a set 150lb bell is already about 18-19" long. for a dumbell that secures with collars, the fucking thing would have to be at least 22-23" long.
the regular, set 150lb bells are already limiting your range of motion for certain exercises, for example, the longer the bells you are using, the less range of motion you are going to have at the top of a flat DB bench press. if you were using 22-23" bells, the movement starts to get a bit ridiculous.
now, slapping a few 25lb plates on each end starts to get ridiculous, and that would require either bells that have olympic ends, or your gym would have to have standard plates–neither which have i ever seen in a gym.
besides that shit- seeing as this guy “broke his nose” while hoisting these dumbells with ridiculously hardcore rusty collars over his head, who in their right mind is going to load up a dumbell with 150lbs, secure it with some bullshit collar, and then hoist it over their face.
this MF’er thinks a 1-2 lb collar hurt as it fell 16" and slammed him in the nose, i bet he’d hate to hoise a 150lb dumbell over his face and have half that weight pile down onto his face as his ridiculously hardcore and dedicated collars spontaneously combust amidst his ridiculously hardcore presence, sending the weights in a ridiculously hardcore and extremely dedicated mega-whirl onto his ridiculously hardcore, extremely dedicated, extremely minimalistically (and unbelievably) bleeding nose.
of course, if that did happen, hed probably be on here calling out Dave Tate, telling him that hes so ridiculously hardcore and exhibits such an extreme amount of dedication, that while he was hoisting a pair of 150lb collared dumbells, the collars all of a sudden broke loose, hurling the plates from both bottom ends of the bells into his face, and rather than stop the set, he simply ate the the stack of plates sitting on his face, then choked up on the bells so that his pinkys were snug against the inside of the remaining plates, flared out his elbows, and proceeded to bang out a set of Tate Presses http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=33910&tid=106
how could i come up with such a scenario you ask? funny thing is, this exact thing happened to me lastnight, while i was training in the zone us hardcore refer to as the “extremely dedicated zone” (i.e., beyond midnight).
dez6485, man i think you spent way too much time thinking about this lol. you’re not building a piano dude.
[quote]rander wrote:
dez6485, man i think you spent way too much time thinking about this lol. you’re not building a piano dude.[/quote]
oh that took no time at all. i whipped that beauty up while sittin on the john.
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.
[quote]DLboy wrote:
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.[/quote]
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
[quote]conner wrote:
DLboy wrote:
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.[/quote]
Fine, then don’t say people are stupid because THEY take it seriously and pass up on stupid, pointless social opportunities to lift and eat.
[quote]DLboy wrote:
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.
conner wrote:
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
DLboy wrote:
Fine, then don’t say people are stupid because THEY take it seriously and pass up on stupid, pointless social opportunities to lift and eat.[/quote]
How many people do you think will actually ever compete to be Mr. Olympia, world’s strongest man, or set a world record? How many people do you think even have that goal in mind?
For the people that do have that aspiration in mind, that’s cool. Go for it. But most people will never even compete in an amateur bodybuilding contest. and yet they still feel like they need to be extremely dedicated. So yes, although some people may make it their lives, because it’s their job, MOST people don’t need to be taking it that far.
[quote]tonyc wrote:
How many people do you think will actually ever compete to be Mr. Olympia, world’s strongest man, or set a world record? How many people do you think even have that goal in mind?
For the people that do have that aspiration in mind, that’s cool. Go for it. But most people will never even compete in an amateur bodybuilding contest. and yet they still feel like they need to be extremely dedicated. So yes, although some people may make it their lives, because it’s their job, MOST people don’t need to be taking it that far. [/quote]
Hey hey hey! This is the internet and there is no logical thinking allowed. Everyone can be in the Olympia and set world records if they just dedicate themselves to it right? 
[quote]pat36 wrote:
DLboy wrote:
conner wrote:
DLboy wrote:
The people who say “lifting isn’t a life” will never come within a million miles of being on stage at the Olympia, will never hold an all-time world record in Powerlifting, and will never be competing in World’s Strongest Man.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Fine, then don’t say people are stupid because THEY take it seriously and pass up on stupid, pointless social opportunities to lift and eat.
Sounds like a formula for a lonely, boring life to me. Humans are social creatures, hence social opportunities are not pointless, being self absorbed is though.[/quote]
While I didn’t write the post you are replying to, I want to make a point.
Who says that by being very dedicated to lifting you have to forfeit all social opportunities and be a lonely, bitter bastard for your whole life?
I don’t go out. This is because whenever the guys I know go out they just go drinking and do jack-shit with their time. I think they do this because they have no concept of bettering themselves or having goals in life. These are the same people who scoff at their grades and think weightlifting and health are ‘boring’ and are desperate to get blown at a party by some random blonde. I realize these guys do that because they just don’t know what else to do. I honestly believe they somehow lack passion and drive in their lives.
As I said I don’t go out with my friends. Instead I use my weekends and evenings to do the best I can in terms of my diets, training knowledge and rest. It matters to me. Training and nutrition do more for me than any ‘normal’ person will ever realize. I truly believe I am at a different state of mind when I lift. I feel so much emotion and euphoria when dedicating myself to training I cannot possibly imagine a life without utter dedication to this past-time.
I have no trouble meeting people. Sure, I don’t open up easily to new people and I am pretty quiet around those I don’t know, but I have always been this way. I am just introverted.
So you know, I have no idea why someone should think people like me have no hope in having friends or being socially successful. The difference between me and my drinking friends, is that I know what to do with my time. I have priorities, and goals in my life.
That’s me, and while I understand your post was directed entirely at someone else, it annoys me that people make those kind of statements.