[quote]Brayton wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
because theres a difference between standing out from the norm but doing it withen “normal” contexts.
for instance taking something like musculature. its appealing to 99% of people and you can exploit that by increasing your level of it. but i think there is a very big difference (literally) between the musculature portrayed in the 70’ early 80’s versus what we have today.
when you start becoming that extreme 1% of something that is already outstanding from the basics then you have to question what is it that makes you want this.
if a woman wants to change her physique where she starts looking more masculine than even most males a red flag goes up because there is a very big difference between being individual and being that.
also i have every right to hold my own opinions. if she thinks that the only way to obtain beauty is through that extreme then there is of course an opposite view which says no, that transformation is an achievement of disfigurement and is ugly. i hold the second opinion.
i often make car analogies to bodybuilding. i look at this as the difference between musclecar drag racing and rocket fuel funnycar racing. on one hand you have something like a 67 Chevelle with big ol 450 engine and that thing is heavy, loud and it means business. but its a still a car, yea it can kick your cars ass but when you see it down the street you know that is just a really fast really badass car.
then you have something like the funnycar. it has 4 wheels and a motor but its not really a car anymore. it can barely turn, its just a chassis and a top and its got a roll cage and wheelie bar, and just goes down the line in 4 seconds. its not really the same thing as a car anymore its just a dragracer and thats all it does.
i hope you understand the point im making that you can still achieve a large amount of muscle mass and stand out from the crowd while still being part of “the crowd” (society) without overdoing it.
That’s right. Don’t be exceptional because that will distance yourself from “the crowd”.
Nobody will knock you for having personal opinions regarding aesthetics, but to say that people should limit their own desires to conform to your limited aesthetic conception is riduclous and bad for the community at large.[/quote]
lol. are you serious? how do you get “limiting” yourself from me saying i think its gross to be on the gratuitous amounts of steroids these females and mass monster male bodybuilders are on?
i want to be big, i want to be bigger than you. i want to compete also. does it mean just because i have those desires i have to follow in the footsteps of the mass monsters? it seems thats what youre saying and by saying so you completely negate everything you just implied about individualism because its my individual choice to think that theyre disgusting.
actually its not really a choice, its imbedded in me. as a man i find feminine qualities sexually attractive. every single thing we do in daily live is derived from instincts withen. when your basic instincts start getting warped things like thinking a woman who looks undisputedly masculine is one of them. everything on the surface says “man”. and not only is it in the jaw, brow, and voice but its amplidied 100 fold by the apperance of lots of muscles. why do 95% of men get into lifting? to pick up chicks. why do they think that muscles are going to get them chicks? because muscularity is a masculine trait which is supposed to attract females because we’re attracted to members of the opposite sex and qualities acquainted with that sex. even if i have a fetish, say really big breasts or im into gothic chicks, on the surface level theyre still very feminine.
basically those men have strong traces…hell bold outlines of homosexuality. thing is, theyre not even attracted to feminine males, theyre attracted to over-masculine females which is actually gayer because the attraction lies withen the displayed masculine traits, muscles, vocal tone, and facial structure and not girly things like spas and interior decorating and theatre as typically found in feminine oriented homosexuals.
