Experiences with Recreational Drugs

[thosebananas]

[quote]Makavali wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
what difference does a vaporizer make compared to a bong/pipe… which is purely weed?

ive always wanted to try one but they are sooooo expensive and since i dont smoke oftem (1/month) i dont see the value in one.

Scott

A bong and pipe still contain carcinogens, a vaporizer is 99% THC with little to none of the bad stuff associated with smoke inhalation.[/quote]

but if the only thing you burn through the bong/pipe is weed surely its the same as a vaporizer?

or is it the actualy burning that makes it carcingenerous?

also if a vaporizer is 99% THC, where does all the other stuff from the weed go as i only beleive weed has like 20% THC?

Scott

[Makavali]

[quote]thosebananas wrote:
but if the only thing you burn through the bong/pipe is weed surely its the same as a vaporizer?

or is it the actualy burning that makes it carcingenerous?

also if a vaporizer is 99% THC, where does all the other stuff from the weed go as i only beleive weed has like 20% THC?

Scott[/quote]

Burning the plant matter is the problem. The vaporizer will heat up to a temp where the THC will become a gas and leave the plant.

Vaporizer

[thosebananas]

good info…

how much did yours set you back?

is the high an different to smokeing it?

scott

[Makavali]

[quote]thosebananas wrote:
good info…

how much did yours set you back?

is the high an different to smokeing it?

scott[/quote]

$300, but I might spring for a Volcano Vaporizer.

The high is different, but in a good way.

[thosebananas]

i was looking at things like this:

http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/Smoke_Bubble_Vaporiser.cfm?iProductID=2062&iProductCategoryID=521

http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/Eagle_Bill__Shake_amp_Vape_Pipe.cfm?iProductID=3408&iProductCategoryID=738

waste of money or right idea and decent enough?

id pay for one of those if i thought it would be better for me and a cleaner high, but as i use infrequently anything much more expensive and ill just stick with my pipe.

cheers for the help btw.

Scott

[SeanT]

[quote]marlboroman wrote:
I was killing some time on YouTube last night and ran across a bunch of vids of dudes trippin’ on Ketamine…holy shit , thats pure insanity

while peakin’ the user appears to have lost control over almost all moter skills…sometimes just squirming around in the frikkin mud

didnt look like too good of a time

hope none of my kids fuck with that shit

[/quote]

They were in a K-hole, rarely dangerous if they are in a safe environment. K-holes are basically ketamine doing what it does best, knock people out(it’s a dissociative). They often can move again rather soon(5 mins max).

[SeanT]

[quote]Makavali wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
good info…

how much did yours set you back?

is the high an different to smokeing it?

scott

$300, but I might spring for a Volcano Vaporizer.

The high is different, but in a good way.[/quote]

A lightbulb works too. :-p The high is much more clear headed and energetic, you can REALLY high too. It’s similar to thc oil high too.

[thosebananas]

never tried oil thc…

is a lightbulb just as good?
ive seen a few guides online for using one…

scott

[Makavali]

[quote]thosebananas wrote:
i was looking at things like this:

http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/Smoke_Bubble_Vaporiser.cfm?iProductID=2062&iProductCategoryID=521

http://www.everyonedoesit.co.uk/online_headshop/Eagle_Bill__Shake_amp_Vape_Pipe.cfm?iProductID=3408&iProductCategoryID=738

waste of money or right idea and decent enough?

id pay for one of those if i thought it would be better for me and a cleaner high, but as i use infrequently anything much more expensive and ill just stick with my pipe.

cheers for the help btw.

Scott[/quote]

The higher the quality of the Vaporizer, the less carcinogens, so I’d try go for the Volcano or something similar.

[thosebananas]

theres no way im going to spring 200 pounds for something ill rarely use…

im thinking of using a lightbulb and see how i like the high, then maybe buy something like one of those links.

cheers anyway mak

scott

[hit_the_gym]

I have 2 completely different kind of friends. College friends and my “ghetto friends” lol.

The first time i partied with my “ghetto friends”, man. I went to a girl’s appartment. I look for my friend joseph… and i am told that he is fucking marla in the bedroom.

then some more friends come in and everybody does meth in the bedroom.

once they leave, my friend joseph calls the crack dealer and joseph, marla and the girl with the appartment sit in the living room and smoke crack to finish the night. Alot of crack actually, 80$ worth if memory is correct. then i fuck the girl with the appartment in the bedroom.

not long after, a different night though, i would end up fucking marla also. she tells me that we should fuck more often.

[hit_the_gym]

but seriously, why is crack alot worse than cocaine?

is it because it is alot more addictive?

i know that if you are unsure before smoking crack… and you take a puff, only one puff… you will instantly want more. forget about addictive personality.

[SkyzykS]

[quote]johnward82 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
FightingScott wrote:

There was a lot more that I wrote and deleted, but realy what’s the use?

Sometimes the best teacher is time and effort.

Then there are otheres here that enjoy reading/learning and if you had something worth writing, a lot of us would find it worth reading.

I appreciate everyones views, facts, opinions, wrong or right on every subject. Even though I may or may not have anything to add, its valuble data to add to my brain.

FWIW
[/quote]

But my adventures with drug use are largely contradictory to what is currently going on in the thread.

You see they started out good enough. A bunch of us from the same neighborhood all hanging out and smoking up. A good time was had by all. Then it got a little more serious when some quick math revealed that we could make a lot of money and smoke free weed. Then there were people trying to rip eachother off, debts accumulating, and least of all, attention from the cops.

But we knew what we were doing. We did our own independent studies, experimented with use, and had it all figured out. The problem was that after about 10 years of that shit, our perspectives and places in life had changed. We figured out how to use drugs but hadn’t figured out how to live a decent life. So a couple of us ended up in jail for a couple of beatdowns, and a few others just plain old died. Well to be more accurate- a couple of them got their heads blown off. One guy got chopped to peices and parts of him were found, and others weren’t. Of course a couple are still kicking in a languid state half life. Not realy alive, but not quite dead yet.

I feel prety fortunate. I’ve been there, done it and lived to tell about it, which is more than a lot of people will never have a chance to say.

So I’ve kind of held back on this and spared the gory details, cause my story has nothing to do with educating yourself on safe drug use, exercising some willpower, and getting a freaking babysitter.

For christ sake, a baby sitter. If someone had tried to tell us to cool it with our drug use, they would have been lit on fire and put out with a baseball bat.

And remenber- Always trust your drug dealer. They would never steer you wrong, always have your best interests in mind, and will not beat you into a hospital bed because you owe them a few bucks. They won’t shoot you either.

My story has to do with what happens when you think you have it under control. ;}

[entheogens]

[quote]SeanT wrote:
Also, students who drop acid have a higher gpa than students who do NOT use ANY drug at all.
[/quote]

Of course some of the acid-heads become college dropouts, like Steve Jobs (founder of Apple Computers)

[MaximusB]

[quote]SeanT wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
I dont think you are missing anything if you dont take recreational drugs. I had my share of dabbling with exctasy years ago. And although I did have some good times, it simply wasnt worth it.

There were days I dreaded because of it, and in the long run it just wasnt worth it. The decision will be your ultimately. But dont do it to “be cool.”

Did you have a bad trip? Why do you feel it wasn’t worth it? I assume its because of the post day crash, as many people feel shitty the next day(I do not experience this and attribute it to a better diet and exercise). I am not trying to interigate you, I just might learn something before I learn it on my own.

Spiritual drug use has helped me become a better person and helped me learn how I should live life more.[/quote]

Dude I got in serious trouble with the Feds, which cost me ALOT. You need not worry about a bad trip, because you could have a REAL bad trip when the DEA knocks on your door. Something you should consider. How strong is your jaw, and those of who you buy it from. If they get caught, you could be in some deep shit. It also depends on the quantity you are involved with. Conspiracy is the BROADEST TERM EVER when it comes to law enforcement.

[beats]

I think…

Doing drugs with friends and experimenting is pretty much a part of life now. Its when you go from doing it with friends to doing it by yourself when you have a problem. Self control.

[system]

[quote]Makavali wrote:

Remember kids, man made drugs are bad.[/quote]

I have to step up and call bullshit on this argument.
See a lotta cats out there these days saying oh “This
can’t be bad for me…it’s natural”

Bitch, please. Let’s run down the list of Natural things
that can seriously fuck you up:

1. Lions
2. Hurricanes
3. Ebola
   The List Goes On.

I’ll allow the argument that pot isn’t that bad because it’s a relativly tame drug, possibly tamer than alcohol. But just 'cause something’s natural doesn’t mean it’s designed by God for human consumption.

If anything, the more artifical it is…the more suited it is for human use (this argument is equally moronic).

Rant Over.

[system]

[quote]hit the gym wrote:
but seriously, why is crack alot worse than cocaine?
[/quote]

Worse? It Kicks Ass!

[hit_the_gym]

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
But my adventures with drug use are largely contradictory to what is currently going on in the thread.

You see they started out good enough. A bunch of us from the same neighborhood all hanging out and smoking up. A good time was had by all. Then it got a little more serious when some quick math revealed that we could make a lot of money and smoke free weed. Then there were people trying to rip eachother off, debts accumulating, and least of all, attention from the cops.

But we knew what we were doing. We did our own independent studies, experimented with use, and had it all figured out. The problem was that after about 10 years of that shit, our perspectives and places in life had changed. We figured out how to use drugs but hadn’t figured out how to live a decent life. So a couple of us ended up in jail for a couple of beatdowns, and a few others just plain old died. Well to be more accurate- a couple of them got their heads blown off. One guy got chopped to peices and parts of him were found, and others weren’t. Of course a couple are still kicking in a languid state half life. Not realy alive, but not quite dead yet.

I feel prety fortunate. I’ve been there, done it and lived to tell about it, which is more than a lot of people will never have a chance to say.

So I’ve kind of held back on this and spared the gory details, cause my story has nothing to do with educating yourself on safe drug use, exercising some willpower, and getting a freaking babysitter.

For christ sake, a baby sitter. If someone had tried to tell us to cool it with our drug use, they would have been lit on fire and put out with a baseball bat.

And remenber- Always trust your drug dealer. They would never steer you wrong, always have your best interests in mind, and will not beat you into a hospital bed because you owe them a few bucks. They won’t shoot you either.

My story has to do with what happens when you think you have it under control. ;}

[/quote]

interesting story

[hit_the_gym]

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
hit the gym wrote:
but seriously, why is crack alot worse than cocaine?

Worse? It Kicks Ass![/quote]

is it too good then???

too good to a point of being addictive?