Excess Fish Oil?

[quote]omerfarooqkhan wrote:
Guys I’ve been on a low carb diet and upped my fish oil intake to 30g. The first 2 weeks went by fine but then suddenly I had unbelievable anal oil leakage. I dropped the fish oil and it went away. Now I’ve been back at 20g and its started again…even though I’ve cut back on total fat intake.

Anybody else ever have this problem? Any thoughts? I’m confused as hell as to why this occurs…it gets mitigated a little bit (but still there) if I use digestive enzymes[/quote]

Last Christmas I cooked a goose for my family. There is a huge amount of fat that renders off the bird as it cooks, so I set the roasting pan outside to cool as we ate. My beagle went to town and must’ve drank about half of it. For the next 2 days, I kept her locked up in the kitchen as about a quart of goose grease continuously leaked out of her.

OP: Have you tried locking yourself in the kitchen?

[quote]d_dub2 wrote:
I have to take prescription Lovaza Fish Oil Caps for my very high triglycerides. I have to take four 900mg caps every day (EPA 465mg and dha 375mg). I too have had that anal leakage since I started taking these damn things. I could figure out why it was happening at first, but now seeing this forum, I’m sure it’s the fish oil that’s causing it.[/quote]

Thats only 4g of fish oil a day, bro, even if it’s got a lot of EPA/DHA. Try spacing it out over your meals, and eating with other food.

What are all of your diets looking like, for those of you who have leakage? I know everyone is different, but ppl like d_dub2 who only have 4g and get leakage is amazing considering I have 5x that.

[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
I’m in contest prep and take nowhere near that amount. If I have this straight, you’re getting 30 grams of fat from your omega oil? That’d be 2/3 of my daily fat content.

Anyone here take Kirland’s signature from costco? The total omega content (EPA + DHA) = 300mg, I take 2 of them three times a day. I remember reading that CT recommends one pill per percent of bodyfat, even though I’m under six it’s become my staple.[/quote]

No, but I consume Kirkland canned salmon, which gives me all the EFAs I need in a day (6 grams).

I’m asking in all seriousness: Where did this ultra fish oil consumption come from?

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
I’m in contest prep and take nowhere near that amount. If I have this straight, you’re getting 30 grams of fat from your omega oil? That’d be 2/3 of my daily fat content.

Anyone here take Kirland’s signature from costco? The total omega content (EPA + DHA) = 300mg, I take 2 of them three times a day. I remember reading that CT recommends one pill per percent of bodyfat, even though I’m under six it’s become my staple.[/quote]

No, but I consume Kirkland canned salmon, which gives me all the EFAs I need in a day (6 grams).

I’m asking in all seriousness: Where did this ultra fish oil consumption come from? [/quote]

Poliquin…I mean David Koresh…and then Dan John (who is starting to sound like Poliquin, actually).

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
I’m asking in all seriousness: Where did this ultra fish oil consumption come from? [/quote]

From a Poliquin article a few years back (Dec. '06 I think). He suggested a short term mega-dosing protocol to correct deficiencies/imbalances. Unfortunately someone “thought” if a little is good, then more is better…

What do you call “ultra fish oil consumption”?

[quote]Madman2 wrote:

What do you call “ultra fish oil consumption”? [/quote]

The 20 to 30 gram intake so widely spoken about.

Koresh talks about EFA deficiency? What else is new? The guy speaks about deficiencies 24-7! Someone’s deficient in this, another is deficient in that!

And if you’re deficient, it’s not like taking more than what’s needed will make up for prior poor dietary habits. You just start eating the right stuff now in the right amounts.

Ponce: I see you like the Koresh reference.

Perhaps I’m closed minded, but I’m REALLY tired of all this talk of “deficiencies”, “intolerances”, “allergies”, “food rotations”, “sensitivities”, and whatever else people with no formal training and education in nutrition or medicine or pharmacology (or any other health or life science) speak of lightly and even DIAGNOSE people with.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Madman2 wrote:

What do you call “ultra fish oil consumption”? [/quote]

The 20 to 30 gram intake so widely spoken about.

Koresh talks about EFA deficiency? What else is new? The guy speaks about deficiencies 24-7! Someone’s deficient in this, another is deficient in that!

And if you’re deficient, it’s not like taking more than what’s needed will make up for prior poor dietary habits. You just start eating the right stuff now in the right amounts.

Ponce: I see you like the Koresh reference.

Perhaps I’m closed minded, but I’m REALLY tired of all this talk of “deficiencies”, “intolerances”, “allergies”, “food rotations”, “sensitivities”, and whatever else people with no formal training and education in nutrition or medicine or pharmacology (or any other health or life science) speak of lightly and even DIAGNOSE people with.
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I think people forget supplements are a derivative of food.

I was told by a close friend that it would be a bad thing to take high levels of fish oil due to the thinning of blood it can cause. He is in the medical field and has seen people come in that bleed out quickly that have confessed to high levels of fish oil.

i only took about 6g a day at the time, and have dropped back to 4g now.

to combat the drop in fish oil i’ve started taking turemic as another anti inflammatory and it’s been working greatly.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Madman2 wrote:

What do you call “ultra fish oil consumption”? [/quote]

The 20 to 30 gram intake so widely spoken about.

Koresh talks about EFA deficiency? What else is new? The guy speaks about deficiencies 24-7! Someone’s deficient in this, another is deficient in that!

And if you’re deficient, it’s not like taking more than what’s needed will make up for prior poor dietary habits. You just start eating the right stuff now in the right amounts.

Ponce: I see you like the Koresh reference.

Perhaps I’m closed minded, but I’m REALLY tired of all this talk of “deficiencies”, “intolerances”, “allergies”, “food rotations”, “sensitivities”, and whatever else people with no formal training and education in nutrition or medicine or pharmacology (or any other health or life science) speak of lightly and even DIAGNOSE people with.
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I think people forget supplements are a derivative of food.[/quote]

So is poop

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Madman2 wrote:

What do you call “ultra fish oil consumption”? [/quote]

The 20 to 30 gram intake so widely spoken about.

Koresh talks about EFA deficiency? What else is new? The guy speaks about deficiencies 24-7! Someone’s deficient in this, another is deficient in that!

And if you’re deficient, it’s not like taking more than what’s needed will make up for prior poor dietary habits. You just start eating the right stuff now in the right amounts.

Ponce: I see you like the Koresh reference.

Perhaps I’m closed minded, but I’m REALLY tired of all this talk of “deficiencies”, “intolerances”, “allergies”, “food rotations”, “sensitivities”, and whatever else people with no formal training and education in nutrition or medicine or pharmacology (or any other health or life science) speak of lightly and even DIAGNOSE people with.
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I think people forget supplements are a derivative of food.[/quote]

Which is why a tuna salad sandwich (which provides a measly 5 grams of fish oil) or salmon steak or sushi roll does the trick for me, not CAPSULES.

I also continue to wonder how people like Reg Park and John Grimek (men that were MUCH larger and stronger 99% of us here) got by without all this bullshit.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Madman2 wrote:
What do you call “ultra fish oil consumption”? [/quote]
The 20 to 30 gram intake so widely spoken about.[/quote] Brick, if someone’s on a high fat/low carb diet (for whatever reason), would you say that a 10-15% of his daily fat intake should be Omega-3’s?

I don’t see a need for more than fifteen grams of flaxseed oil or six grams of fish oil. You can take more, but I don’t see the need for so much damn fish oil that’s being pushed so much in the past two years.

The rest comes from monos, saturated, and other polys as you know.

[quote]B rocK wrote:
He is in the medical field and has seen people come in that bleed out quickly that have confessed to high levels of fish oil.
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My God, I can’t believe something’s not being done about this silent killer…

Really? Really?

It’s oily asprin.

B Rock:

You really don’t need more than 6-8g. And I dont’ think that causes nearly the blood-effects that 20-30g cause.

Plus, when people say “high doses of fish oil” I think we need to know what they consider “high.” My mom’s friend said she gets “a lot of protein” per day. I asked for an example and she said, “I eat one whole egg EVERY day!”

People are worthless.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
B Rock:

You really don’t need more than 6-8g. And I dont’ think that causes nearly the blood-effects that 20-30g cause.

Plus, when people say “high doses of fish oil” I think we need to know what they consider “high.” My mom’s friend said she gets “a lot of protein” per day. I asked for an example and she said, “I eat one whole egg EVERY day!”

People are worthless.[/quote]

High is the recently popular recommendation of one gram per percentage of bodyfat for most people or 15+ grams.

I also want to know how Koreseh - a STRENGTH COACH - comes into exceptional cases of metabolic snd physiological dysfunction and how he knows the cure to it all.

If I recall correctly, he once wrote on here or spoke in an intervieew on here in which he had theory that could possibly pan out for curing cancers. Yes, a strength coach - not an ONCOLOGIST - is going to be part of that sort of stuff.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
My God, I can’t believe something’s not being done about this silent killer…
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I’ve also read that high doses can cause blood thinning, and increase risk of bleeding. and folks are advised not to take a lot before surgery, etc.

I don’t think it’s leaving masses of people dead in the streets though.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
I also want to know how Koreseh - a STRENGTH COACH - comes into exceptional cases of metabolic snd physiological dysfunction and how he knows the cure to it all.
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It really helps when you work with people like this:

I mean, this should finalize everything for you, he’s a DOCTOR!