Ex Wife Scores Some Lotto Money

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
This is civil court not criminal, and let me you in on a little secret every day X wifes take their successful husbands back to court to get more money (I know I am one of them). You know what makes change, guys who pay there fucking child support is how. If more guys would fucking take care of there KIDS then you would not have this social stigma. In my view point to pay off is for the X wife to get off you ass and not take time away from your kids. Again a parent would understand that, so keep book learning and please think back some day when you grow up about this thread. [/quote]
That’s bs. Way more non-custodial mothers skip out on their child support and don’t get arrested or punished. The “deadbeat dad” who doesn’t pay just because he doesn’t want to support his kids is a myth.

Most dads (not saying parents because mothers may have different motivations) don’t pay because:

  • They can’t pay. They literally don’t have the income. Since you’re a divorced dad, you may have heard of “imputed income” where the courts tell you what you should be earning and make you pay child support based off of that. This is ostensibly to prevent lawyer dads from becoming waiters just because they don’t want to pay child support. Yeah, I know of tons of people who want to come down to minimum wage just so they can avoid buying their children clothes.
  • They don’t get to see the children. The mother has taken off with the kids or she has a restraining order against the dad. I completely understand why someone would hold back money as punishment against the mother, but the government doesn’t see it that way.
  • They have a new family (re-married) and so does the ex-wife, but the man still gotta pay, so the man’s kids by the new wife can’t get new shoes.
  • The child support is way higher than what is actually needed for children and is more like alimony.

Check out www.glennsacks.com if you think that most men (except yourself) are deadbeats and whatnot.

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[quote]M@rk wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
This is civil court not criminal, and let me you in on a little secret every day X wifes take their successful husbands back to court to get more money (I know I am one of them). You know what makes change, guys who pay there fucking child support is how. If more guys would fucking take care of there KIDS then you would not have this social stigma. In my view point to pay off is for the X wife to get off you ass and not take time away from your kids. Again a parent would understand that, so keep book learning and please think back some day when you grow up about this thread. [/quote]
That’s bs. Way more non-custodial mothers skip out on their child support and don’t get arrested or punished. The “deadbeat dad” who doesn’t pay just because he doesn’t want to support his kids is a myth.

Most dads (not saying parents because mothers may have different motivations) don’t pay because:

  • They can’t pay. They literally don’t have the income. Since you’re a divorced dad, you may have heard of “imputed income” where the courts tell you what you should be earning and make you pay child support based off of that. This is ostensibly to prevent lawyer dads from becoming waiters just because they don’t want to pay child support. Yeah, I know of tons of people who want to come down to minimum wage just so they can avoid buying their children clothes.
  • They don’t get to see the children. The mother has taken off with the kids or she has a restraining order against the dad. I completely understand why someone would hold back money as punishment against the mother, but the government doesn’t see it that way.
  • They have a new family (re-married) and so does the ex-wife, but the man still gotta pay, so the man’s kids by the new wife can’t get new shoes.
  • The child support is way higher than what is actually needed for children and is more like alimony.

Check out www.glennsacks.com if you think that most men (except yourself) are deadbeats and whatnot.[/quote]

What is it with this topic, okay fine.

This is determined by the state you live in.

Do you live in Texas?
Are you a parent?
Have you been through a divorce?

If you say no to any of these then I dont care what you quote or think. I can find a study or a web site that states gay men make better fathers than straight catholic men. I have many life experiences with my wifes X (dead beat) my brothers X (dead beat woman) etc. Also I have lawyer friends and have spent approximately over $100,000 in this “issue” of life.

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That’s the thing, there SHOULD be a cap on how much child support is paid (unless of course the husband/mother wants to pay a higher amount). No kid needs $2000 a month, so I don’t understand why so many men are ordered to pay high fees as child support.

Also, just because a man has perhaps gotten rich through starting a business doesn’t mean the ex-bitch and child should suddenly be getting more money - it should remain the same and be the CHOICE of the father.

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:
That’s the thing, there SHOULD be a cap on how much child support is paid (unless of course the husband/mother wants to pay a higher amount). No kid needs $2000 a month, so I don’t understand why so many men are ordered to pay high fees as child support.

Also, just because a man has perhaps gotten rich through starting a business doesn’t mean the ex-bitch and child should suddenly be getting more money - it should remain the same and be the CHOICE of the father.[/quote]

As far as Texas goes, more and more judges are making things more fair and balanced. However, there are so many dads who just skip out and dont pay. So you know how that goes, the ones who suffer are the ones paying for other peoples abuse.

I left my X wife and started paying child support that month, before the courts etc. If my X is living in substandard housing and cant pay the bills etc, then my kids suffer. The kids were not at fault for what happended with their parents, and only a parent can understand that. Now there are gold digging bitches out there and a spiteful shallow person is one who would sacrifice their kids for money and punitive damages against there X.

I have paid a lot in child support but I make a lot of money, I support my now wifes kids and have since there were babies. Sorry but my feeling is on this issue the OP posted, that guy didnt even earn this money in the first place he bought a fucking lottery ticket. Be a man, pay the cunt off, take care of your kids and be a good person. Now the Kansas city kid and the other intellectual can nit pick this apart and tell a grown ass man how he should do things.

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Dunno what is it with you and only wanting to hear from people from Texas who have made similar choices as you, but whatever. I still live in the United States and guess what, it isn’t the Wild West anymore, if I skip out on CS in my state they will use the same goddamn computers to track me down as they do in Texas or Nebraska or whatever state you prefer to point out.

There’s supporting your kids and there’s supporting your ex-wife, and all too often the two are mixed up by some judge with a chip on his shoulder, and when push comes to shove, its the guy who ends up eating Alpo and canned beans.

I’m glad that judges are getting more fair though. Been a long time coming.

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DK?? WTF?!?

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
DK?? WTF?!?[/quote]

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
DK?? WTF?!?[/quote]

OMFG I need to talk to your network admins at work and get some surfing filters put on your account!

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]Cprimero wrote:
Seems to me that rule #1 of winning the lottery is don’t tell ANYONE, EVER.[/quote]

This.

Call a lawyer and tell your dog. People will come out of the woodwork wanting a piece of you. I know its true because I saw it on TV.[/quote]

Depending where you are this might not be an option. It is part of the conditions of the prize in many places that they publicize your windfall.

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Am I reading that right? She only got 2 million out of 50? That’s only 4 percent. That’s some cheap ass child support.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
If my X is living in substandard housing and cant pay the bills etc, then my kids should not be living with her.[/quote]

I agree 100%.

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[quote]M@rk wrote:
Dunno what is it with you and only wanting to hear from people from Texas who have made similar choices as you, but whatever. I still live in the United States and guess what, it isn’t the Wild West anymore, if I skip out on CS in my state they will use the same goddamn computers to track me down as they do in Texas or Nebraska or whatever state you prefer to point out.

There’s supporting your kids and there’s supporting your ex-wife, and all too often the two are mixed up by some judge with a chip on his shoulder, and when push comes to shove, its the guy who ends up eating Alpo and canned beans.

I’m glad that judges are getting more fair though. Been a long time coming.[/quote]

Since you live in the US then you know that each state has its own laws in regard to divorce, Texas does not have alimony etc. I am not going to argue about laws that are in different states, because I can only argue about something I have experience in. Some people on this site want to argue about something they have no experience in, why? Just for the fact its the internet?

Yes guys get fucked in divorce 90% of the time, I am not going to bitch about mine why? Because me life is better since I left her, my point was that you cannot take care of your kids if you leave the bitch in the cold. Sorry sucks but that is the facts. You throw her a bone and your life will be easier.

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[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Am I reading that right? She only got 2 million out of 50? That’s only 4 percent. That’s some cheap ass child support.[/quote]

Thank you,

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Fuck that. This is why I am not concerned about marriage right now. I could get a divorce, win the lottery, and then some chick I haven’t been with in years can come along and take a good chunk of it? Yeah, the system sucks ass and seems to be designed against the average male as if women can’t take care of themselves in the year 2010.

None of that sounds right. If you have kids, take care of those kids. Hell, why doesn’t the guy have custody of the kids if he is making so much more than the wife?

How does the woman deserve your paycheck after you both separate and what is keeping the courts from allowing this to carry over in all circumstances?

So, if a couple gets divorced when they both earn 30K a year, the guy goes on to become a heart surgeon, the ex-wife now deserves a pay increase herself because they had kids?

Why?

Take your kids and leave her where she stands.

I could see if she paid for his schooling or helped him build a business…but if he did it on his own, why does she deserve anything just to keep her quiet?

I’ve asked this before, but what are the major benefits of the actual marriage certificate if you can get screwed like this even if SHE cheats on YOU?

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Am I reading that right? She only got 2 million out of 50? That’s only 4 percent. That’s some cheap ass child support.[/quote]

Thank you, [/quote]

2 million isn’t cheap for anybody except maybe Bill Gates.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Fuck that. This is why I am not concerned about marriage right now. I could get a divorce, win the lottery, and then some chick I haven’t been with in years can come along and take a good chunk of it? Yeah, the system sucks ass and seems to be designed against the average male as if women can’t take care of themselves in the year 2010.

None of that sounds right. If you have kids, take care of those kids. Hell, why doesn’t the guy have custody of the kids if he is making so much more than the wife?

How does the woman deserve your paycheck after you both separate and what is keeping the courts from allowing this to carry over in all circumstances?

So, if a couple gets divorced when they both earn 30K a year, the guy goes on to become a heart surgeon, the ex-wife now deserves a pay increase herself because they had kids?

Why?

Take your kids and leave her where she stands.

I could see if she paid for his schooling or helped him build a business…but if he did it on his own, why does she deserve anything just to keep her quiet?

I’ve asked this before, but what are the major benefits of the actual marriage certificate if you can get screwed like this even if SHE cheats on YOU?[/quote]

Sorry X but this is the way it is, I was making 30 K as a respiratory therapist and then went on to get my masters in Nursing. My X went from making the same percentage of my gross not net GROSS yearly income for both. When I got divorced she was given managing conservatory parent (I did nothing wrong but want the divorce) and I was ordered to pay child support. The mothers have to crack addict hookers with jail time before a judge will say she is unfit. This of course is a generalization I know there are many stories to the contrary, but as a 90% general rule.

Is this right? No, but it is what it is, now most judges are making joint managing conservatory upon divorce this way the CS is different.

Here is a kicker, I paid CS, paid medical insurance, paid for half of everything school lunches supplies, soccer etc. and I got my kids every week 3 days a week. She also remarried a paramedic. Now why did I do that, so I could get my kids three days a week. If I had not done this and pay out the nose then I would have the standard visitations of every other weekend. I love my kids and would do anything to be part of there lives.

I do not have the resources or the time to battle wind mills.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Am I reading that right? She only got 2 million out of 50? That’s only 4 percent. That’s some cheap ass child support.[/quote]

Thank you, [/quote]

2 million isn’t cheap for anybody except maybe Bill Gates.[/quote]

X but 4% is. Standard CS % is 25% for one kid of GROSS income and subsequent 5% for every other kid. May have changed but this is what they figured on mine.

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I read most of this and me, being a young unexperienced person is going to chime in. I think a lot of it depends on the parents. Mine are divorced. My father is a dead beat, and my mother so as not to have to deal with him anymore as part of the divorce agreement stated that he gives up the kids to her (thank god) and she doesnt care about the child support, just let her have her kids, granted he would never have gotten us but it made life easier.

If he won the lotto noone would care and we wouldnt go after any of it, we are happy as we are. Now if we wont the lotto he would magically appear so it does go both ways.

As far as kman attacking DJ, i think thats a bad idea. The man is has a lot of legitimate posts on this site and he is speaking from experience. Even if for instance youre in law school, it doesnt matter until you practice. Got into an argument with a friend over MY 401K and his only argument was, im in school for business management i know these things.

How about trying to have your 401K managed correctly as a 21 y/o who is just learning about it and figuring it out step by step with real money at stake, other than reading something in a book about a man investing millions of dollars and acting like you know. I dont know it and i can admit that, but its a situation to situation thing.

Apparently this is how DJ situation went, also from this site he seems like a stand up guy, dont go ragging on him being a young father, thats shitty. From what ive gathered communicating with him hes doing very well for himself which is currently well above you and your private school education. I hate when people feel entitled because they go to an expensive school.

As for just giving her the money, makes sense to me. A man has a very slim chance of winning in the court of law against a woman who shelters his children. Court costs, lost wages for being at court, and mental strain all come into account in this situation. See above, my mother didnt want to deal with it and said screw the child support ill take care of them so that we dont have to deal with you and court forever.

To be honest this is a situation where most people dont want to be the one to change it, because well frankly, they wont. and theres too much at stake.

As stated above, my comments may be null because i am young, unmarried, and dont have children. But i have seen this from a childs view which should have some merit.

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[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
I read most of this and me, being a young unexperienced person is going to chime in. I think a lot of it depends on the parents. Mine are divorced. My father is a dead beat, and my mother so as not to have to deal with him anymore as part of the divorce agreement stated that he gives up the kids to her (thank god) and she doesnt care about the child support, just let her have her kids, granted he would never have gotten us but it made life easier.

If he won the lotto noone would care and we wouldnt go after any of it, we are happy as we are. Now if we wont the lotto he would magically appear so it does go both ways.

As far as kman attacking DJ, i think thats a bad idea. The man is has a lot of legitimate posts on this site and he is speaking from experience. Even if for instance youre in law school, it doesnt matter until you practice. Got into an argument with a friend over MY 401K and his only argument was, im in school for business management i know these things.

How about trying to have your 401K managed correctly as a 21 y/o who is just learning about it and figuring it out step by step with real money at stake, other than reading something in a book about a man investing millions of dollars and acting like you know. I dont know it and i can admit that, but its a situation to situation thing.

Apparently this is how DJ situation went, also from this site he seems like a stand up guy, dont go ragging on him being a young father, thats shitty. From what ive gathered communicating with him hes doing very well for himself which is currently well above you and your private school education. I hate when people feel entitled because they go to an expensive school.

As for just giving her the money, makes sense to me. A man has a very slim chance of winning in the court of law against a woman who shelters his children. Court costs, lost wages for being at court, and mental strain all come into account in this situation. See above, my mother didnt want to deal with it and said screw the child support ill take care of them so that we dont have to deal with you and court forever.

To be honest this is a situation where most people dont want to be the one to change it, because well frankly, they wont. and theres too much at stake.

As stated above, my comments may be null because i am young, unmarried, and dont have children. But i have seen this from a childs view which should have some merit. [/quote]

Very well said and thanks man.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Fuck that. This is why I am not concerned about marriage right now. I could get a divorce, win the lottery, and then some chick I haven’t been with in years can come along and take a good chunk of it? Yeah, the system sucks ass and seems to be designed against the average male as if women can’t take care of themselves in the year 2010.

None of that sounds right. If you have kids, take care of those kids. Hell, why doesn’t the guy have custody of the kids if he is making so much more than the wife?

How does the woman deserve your paycheck after you both separate and what is keeping the courts from allowing this to carry over in all circumstances?

So, if a couple gets divorced when they both earn 30K a year, the guy goes on to become a heart surgeon, the ex-wife now deserves a pay increase herself because they had kids?

Why?

Take your kids and leave her where she stands.

I could see if she paid for his schooling or helped him build a business…but if he did it on his own, why does she deserve anything just to keep her quiet?

I’ve asked this before, but what are the major benefits of the actual marriage certificate if you can get screwed like this even if SHE cheats on YOU?[/quote]

Sorry X but this is the way it is, I was making 30 K as a respiratory therapist and then went on to get my masters in Nursing. My X went from making the same percentage of my gross not net GROSS yearly income for both. When I got divorced she was given managing conservatory parent (I did nothing wrong but want the divorce) and I was ordered to pay child support. The mothers have to crack addict hookers with jail time before a judge will say she is unfit. This of course is a generalization I know there are many stories to the contrary, but as a 90% general rule.

Is this right? No, but it is what it is, now most judges are making joint managing conservatory upon divorce this way the CS is different.

Here is a kicker, I paid CS, paid medical insurance, paid for half of everything school lunches supplies, soccer etc. and I got my kids every week 3 days a week. She also remarried a paramedic. Now why did I do that, so I could get my kids three days a week. If I had not done this and pay out the nose then I would have the standard visitations of every other weekend. I love my kids and would do anything to be part of there lives.

I do not have the resources or the time to battle wind mills. [/quote]

Then I probably won’t be getting married. I have heard way too many horror stories about this and ALL of them involve the guy getting screwed over even after the wife cheated on him first.

Automatically giving the woman custody of kids sounds like something left over from the 1950’s. I had a coworker who I overheard arguing with her ex-husband that if he didn’t come pick up the kids now (because she had them but needed to run an errand) that she would do all she could to prevent him from seeing the kids again in court.

Yes, she really used that threat while the husband was at work himself.

That sucks and I won’t be a part of it because I would rather simply not get married than have my ass handed to me later even SHE screws up.

I understand that there are nice marriages out there, but even most of them seem delusional in that they seem to think they will never get divorced or ever have to worry about it.

I would imagine most people who divorced after ten years of marriage thought the same thing at the start of it.

Your stance is that we should give in because fighting the system is pointless…and you may be right…until we fight the system by not playing the game to start with.