Evolution vs. Creation

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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I told everyone so many times. I am past trying to prove God exists to you people. I have given numerous prophecies that the Bible has been correct on throughout world history. There are world events happening right now that the Bible states. How could something that was written thousand of years ago know? If you don’t believe that, what would help you?

I realize that there isn’t a way to physically prove that God exists to you guys. I’m not trying to anymore like I already stated. I know in my heart and soul that God created us in His image. I know what the fossils show. You don’t know that the abnormal skeletons are our ansestors, you don’t! Period. The entire “scientific” idea of human evolution is based on assumptions. I know that animals adapt to their enviornments. Look at how many different kinds of dogs their are, just like people. That doesn’t mean that you can dig up some unfamiliar skeletons that are either deformed humans or some other extinct primate and assume that these are what we have “evolved” from. Not only that, but there are holes in the idea and it has not and will not be proven.

The scientists can’t even come close to creating life in their labs. The closest thing they get in their controlled laboratory evironments is worthless chemical junk. I mean really.

You think that because bacteria can adapt to antibiotics that every living creature on this planet came from bacteria? Even if bacteria could spontaneously generate out of nothing, which it can’t, what does that explain? That some kind of an animal could evolve out of bacteria? That’s rediculous, any way you look at it. Open your eyes, it’s bacteria! They can’t even figure out how bacteria got here, let alone figure out how every animal and plant on this planet got here.

The bottom line is, Science is a great thing, but it doesn’t have all the answers. If it did, there wouldn’t be the “creation vs. evolution” debate going on among scientists. I realize that I can’t physically prove that God does exist. The reason for starting this thread is because I really do care about people and hope for the best. I just wish that everyone could see the truth. I understand that you are sold on your beliefs and there is not much I can do. It’s just sad that someday soon, all the anti God people are going to be in for a big suprise.

So laugh at me and tell me I’m ignorant, I don’t care. It doesn’t change anything. Tell me how unscientific I am despite everything I have given.

I will pray for the people who can’t see the truth, because deep down, it’s not about me being right, it’s about helping people see the truth and God is the truth.

I will continue to do anything I can to help people see, even if everyone thinks that I’m ignorant in today’s liberal society.

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[quote]tuffloud wrote:
I told everyone so many times. I am past trying to prove God exists to you people. I have given numerous prophecies that the Bible has been correct on throughout world history. There are world events happening right now that the Bible states. How could something that was written thousand of years ago know? If you don’t believe that, what would help you? [/quote]

The fallicy of that is if you believe the bible you should also concider Nostradamus and his prophecies as accurate as well. That’s also half true because YOUR interpretation can and will vary among social circles. I know the Church of Anton Szandor LaVey will see revelations as their ‘time to shine’ as your circle will see it differently.

Then that should be good enough for you

Then maybe like you we just need to go on faith. Let’s assume you’re right and we dont know it. These fossils are not proof of anything and scientists make this crap up. Still assuming you are right and all the theroies are bogus, its still great to know all about these people. If we can tell how a person lived from their bones and where they were found, we can learn about their culture, or at least make believe we can. My point here is that even if they cannot 100% prove we evolved from the fossil creatures, we can at least have a best, educated guess where we come from with that information. This means, the ‘facts’ are out on the table. How you want to intrepet them is up to you. Scientists are scientists because they can see a connection between point A and point B. They tend to say point B couldnt have been arrived to without point A bieng there first. You might say, there are only two dots on a graph, nothing more.

Still thinking you are right, this is NO REASON they should give up trying.

Then maybe you should look outside the box for a change. You know, there are MANY theroies that suggest life came from ‘out there’. One such, an Ice Comet with ‘bacteria’ hit the earth, made animals sick and made them start to adapt to their enviorment. I guess, in no certain way, you can call that adaption process ‘evolution’, for lack of a better word.

Still no excuse to stop looking for them.

If you are certain of that then you must have proof. And if you have proof of that then you must have proof of God. But no-one here is asking for proof of anything, we respect your faithand hold nothing against you for it. But for all the Bhuddists and Muslims and Jews and every other faith, they sure have the same to say about you on their judgement day.

Still no disrespect is directed at you. Unfortunatley for us ignorant ones, we cant always rely on faith. Something solid needs to be there. And if there is, it might be placebo.

Thank you for your concern.

The Placebo Effect is VERY POWERFUL. IF a pill can make you feel like something, chances are you’ll believe you are. Same goes for religion. I read about a ritual in Thailand where people go ape shit and ram swords in their cheeks and flesh and bleed and feel no pain. Religion can do that to you, it can make you believe whatever you want. I believe in Evolution by objective analysis, not subjective standards. If you believe in god and creationism and all these wonderful things, good for you. Im doing just fine with my evolution ‘belief’. NOW prove one is better then the other…

my two cents.

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Purusha, the being beyond all others was sacrificed, the seasons, holy writings, and animals were his ritual accompaniments.

His body formed the castes of society. Castes were strict stratifications in society that members marry and live within in order to fulfill their purpose in life. Purusha’s mouth was the highest caste of Indian society, the Brahmans - priests and leaders. His arms became the second highest caste - Kshatriyas, the warriors. Vaishyas, farmers and merchants, were formed from Purusha’s thighs, while his feet created the Shudras, the lowest caste created to serve the higher castes.

Purusha’s body went on to form the rest of the known Universe in Hindu mythology. His mind was the moon, his eye was the sun, the storm and fire gods Indra and Agni were from his mouth as well, his breath was the wind, his head was Heaven, his feet were earth, and his navel became the atmosphere.

So you see, Evolution and Creationism are both false, it was the sacrifice of Purusha and the carving up of his corpse that have lead to the myriad forms of life found on earth. Not intellegent design or a creator but the disection of a God.

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By the way, the proof I offer to support my assertion that the world and human life come from a dead God’s corpse is thus:

“I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature.”

-Albert Einstein

And besides, there are some huge gaps in Creationism.

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“God does not play dice with the Universe.”

Albert Einstein

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before i start this post i must apolgise for my english, as i am an engineer not a writter.

creationism- right this is what i can gather as I’m engish and it doesn’t have much(no) following over here. i read an article on it and their main arguement is this, " entropy tend to go down", so complex to simple. right now the real law is, “in closed system, entropy tends to go down.” now this makes evolution possible as the universe is an open system which makes evolution possible.
my favourite part of creationism is the Earth is only a few thousand years old, but damn those B*$tard scientist with there evidence(carbon dating) that proves the earth is millions of years old. now before i go on to mention other things (maybe write a paper on it). i’m going to leave it and let you read the post to get some feed back.

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[quote]Xvim wrote:
Purusha, the being beyond all others was sacrificed, the seasons, holy writings, and animals were his ritual accompaniments.

His body formed the castes of society. Castes were strict stratifications in society that members marry and live within in order to fulfill their purpose in life. Purusha’s mouth was the highest caste of Indian society, the Brahmans - priests and leaders. His arms became the second highest caste - Kshatriyas, the warriors. Vaishyas, farmers and merchants, were formed from Purusha’s thighs, while his feet created the Shudras, the lowest caste created to serve the higher castes.

Purusha’s body went on to form the rest of the known Universe in Hindu mythology. His mind was the moon, his eye was the sun, the storm and fire gods Indra and Agni were from his mouth as well, his breath was the wind, his head was Heaven, his feet were earth, and his navel became the atmosphere.

So you see, Evolution and Creationism are both false, it was the sacrifice of Purusha and the carving up of his corpse that have lead to the myriad forms of life found on earth. Not intellegent design or a creator but the disection of a God.[/quote]

In total seriousness, this is the most believable creation myth I have ever heard. Dare I say, it makes some mathematical sense.

Unfortunatley I wasn’t raised Hindi, but I can follow a great deal of what was written.

By the way, doesnt the written Hundu scriptures look strangly similar to mathematical algorithims used today?