Ever Had an Affair Outside Marriage?

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

There’s a desperate hurting women over there who probably hates to open her eyes in the morning and all anybody (just about) cares about is whether this guy is happy. Yeah, she’s probably angry and nasty and impossible to get along with on top of being obese too. That’s how hurting people are. None of that is the point. Marriage (on the human level), including sex, is ALL about GIVING every bit of yourself on every level and in every way to another and ESPECIALLY when they least deserve it and are most difficult to live with. That’s when they need you most.

Marriage was designed by God, one man and one woman, for life, as an earthly illustration of the covenant relationship of Christ with His church bride. He GAVE Himself in a gruesome bloody death to redeem His people, his bride, from death themselves. He commands husbands to love their wives this way. (see the 5th chapter of the apostle Paul’s letter to the church at Ephesus) No matter what else may happen, children are equipped for life by watching their fathers love their mothers. Of course, we won’t do that on our own. How well I know, having learned this lesson the very hard way by almost destroying the wife of my youth with my own self serving childishness. Even after I should have known better.

Nevermind. Whatever on earth could I have been thinking? This guy needs to get laid and save money. Carry on.[/quote]

I’ve been reading a lot of your posts, and as a Christian brother I gotta say… what you write sounds WAY too preachy for my tastes…

anyways OP, for your wife…

2iu Keifei somatropin AM (before 30 minutes fasted walk) and 2iu PM (on empty stomach)
50-75mcg t3 ED
12mg test E Monday/Thursday
low dose DNP for 6 weeks

if that doesn’t work, time for a divorce
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If all that shit doesn’t work, it’s not time for a divorce. It’s time to give her a .357 Magnum with a bullet in it and tell her to do herself a favor.
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hahaha right?[/quote]

Right. Tell herself to grow a fucking pair and get it over with already. All she’s doing is killing herself with all that weight. What’s the difference between cleaning up all the puke and shit she produces after her goddamned food binges and cleaning up her brains after she splatters them all over the kitchen?

You only have to clean her brains up once.

And if any of you guys think I’m being overly harsh here, fuck off and die. This is obviously a troll thread. Has the OP even made one single fucking post since he started this bastard?

The OP probably can’t post any updates on the situation because he got stuck underneath her after she passed out and fell into a food coma.[/quote]

Why is your avatar a picture of 200lb weights? Are you even 200lbs…?

That’s the weird thing about 200lb plates…are they for people too lazy to get two 100lb plates, or four 45s and a couple of tens? But if they are, then you must NOT be very lazy if you can carry around 200lb plates. I’m confused!

[quote]Chushin wrote:
Wow.

“The New T-Nation” in a nutshell.

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The more things change, the more they stay the same:

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/enigma666_im_calling_you_out

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Ive never seen Walkway post anything that i didnt think was either warranted, useful, or funny.

Good to see you took your time out, counted back from ten and cooled down.[/quote]
Um… That’s not how trolling works lol. I think you misunderstand my post. Also Walkway has plenty of posts where he isn’t being useful, warranted, or funny, he’s just being a douche.[/quote]

No, i just dont believe anything walkway said warranted your hilarious overreaction.[/quote]
Calling Jewbacca an ignorant moron and an obtuse retard was a pretty good start. Walkway annoyed me in another thread before this one as well. But yea I guess fuck Jewbacca, everyone knows it’s warranted to call him those things right?

Also calling it an overreaction implies you still don’t understand how trolling works. Or maybe you do, but that would mean…

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Oh my God.

  1. You are suggesting personal hormone manipulation for someone who cannot even control her diet, that would almost certainly be administered by someone who has no idea what they are doing.

  2. You suggest T3 without knowing ANYTHING about her medical or personal history.

  3. You suggest testosterone for a FEMALE. I get that it’s a low dose. Still terrible advice, see point one above.

  4. On top of that, with the extremely high danger of virilization for a woman taking test, you suggests a two day a week dosage schedule, when the goal should be to keep hormone levels in women as flat and stable as a tabletop.

  5. DNP? Really? Seriously? DNP?

  6. There is no suggestion at ALL to maybe find out a way to diet and exercise BEFORE dumping an oil drum full of drugs into her unhealthy, untrained body, most of which would almost certainly have to be acquired from sources whose products cannot be verified as safe, correctly dosed, sanitary, or even real.

  7. DNP? You have to be fucking kidding me. Seriously.

I can go on, if you’d like.
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  1. well to be completely honest, it was a joke (OP doesn’t even have health insurance, how can he afford high quality US hgh?)

however, there is nothing wrong with my protocol, that was my actual point.

  1. see .1

  2. lots of females take testosterone at low doses… it helps them A LOT.

  3. I recommended test E, which is rather stable at 2 doses a week, or course more frequent administration would be more ideal, but it’s only 24mg a week. Less than 1/3 of what the average male produces.

  4. LOL!!! this is hilarious. I sat back and thought to myself “I wonder what he’s going to say about DNP.”

he’s probably just going to say “Seriously??”…

sure enough… not once, but twice… TONS of women take DNP… it’s very effective, and very safe especially at low doses…

I cant believe you are considered an authority on this kinda stuff lmao.[/quote]

1 + 2. Why would you recommend a hormone manipulation regime as a “joke.” What’s funny about that? Particuarly to someone you know absolutely nothing about, who probably, like me, did not realize you were “joking.”

  1. The “LOTS” of females taking low dose testosterone are almost all taking it either a) under the supervision of a trained physician and/or b) taking it in conjunction with a healthy diet and lifestyle. In almost every case, those females actually taking it are aware of the massively increased danger of irreversible virilization. Despite all precautions and planning, some of these females STILL exerience virilization and other negative side effects from exogenous testosterone application. In the end, though, because LOTS of people do anything is about the worst arguent for doing something you could come up with. My four year old son comes up with better arguments than this.

  2. See attached graph. Data:

Testosterone Enanthate
Dose: 214.3mg
Half-life: 7 days
Dose Frequency: Every 3 days
Cycle Length: 49 days

The subject matter is necessarily not ideal (the test subjects are male and the dosages are higher), but it clearly demonstrates that, even at E3D injections (which is an even shorter injection schedule than you suggest, and more regular), there are still significant fluctuations in blood concentration, which in a female is going to be that much more dangerous.

  1. Again, your imbecilic defense: TONS of women take DNP. Here are some testimonials from a few of those women:

http://www.library.spscc.ctc.edu/electronicreserve/bio113/rushton/TwoDeaths.pdf

Regardless what DNP is, it is not the kind of thing anyone should be doing without extensive study, planning and a full understanding of the risks involved. To cavelierly include it in a “cycle” for an out of shape female whom you know next to nothing about is beyond irresponsible.

You want to keep digging?

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Some of the folks in here need to take a long look in the mirror. She broke her end of the deal? I don’t remember the priest saying anything about my wife staying super hot or maintaining my idea of her ideal weight. Must have slept through that part of the service I guess. On the other hand, OP, you have a duty to be FAITHFUL to your wife. That is part of the deal.

Instead of asking about cheating you should be a man and have a frank and open talk with your wife. You’re concerned about her weight, but you can’t even get health insurance on your own, seriously? What does that say about you? Maybe she got fat because she has to work 40+ hours a week to support YOU and your kids, did you think of that?

Be a MAN and talk to her, not random people on the internet that will say she is garbage because she gained weight HAVING NO FUCKING CLUE WHY SHE GAINED WEIGHT, WHAT STRESSES SHE UNDER, OR WHAT TYPE OF PERSON SHE IS OR YOU ARE.

Cheating on your wife makes you scum, imo.
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Serious Question: Do you not expect your wife to maintain a reasonable level of attractiveness even if it wasn’t stipulated in your marriage vows?[/quote]

therajraj, missed your comment the first time. I want my wife to remain attractive, but I don’t expect her to look the way I think is ideal any more than she expects me to look the way she thinks is ideal. Christ I’d look like the pasty dude from Twilight if that was the case.

If I ever have a problem with my wife’s weight, I would talk to her about it. Not fuck some other woman because she’s not “holding up her end of the bargain.”

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Im not saying YOLO does, he probably doesnt since his name is YOLO.

But if OP is totally numb to the situation as he states, refuses to divorce, and absolutely does not love his wife anymore (i feel like you guys are ignoring this, as if he can just MAKE himself love her again) then he should do whatever the fuck he needs to do to not be miserable.

Cheating is the least of his/their problems.

By the way, (assuming her obesity and refusal to change is not OP’s fault) when was the last time you were married to a 300lb, unmotivated woman? I didnt know being married made everyone an authority on everyone else’s unique marriage issues.
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In the great shit storm of 2013 comments were missed so I’m going back through to address them. Maybe we can have more “fun” today.

If the OP doesn’t love his wife and she refuses to change HE SHOULD DIVORCE HER. Instead he wants to use her for her insurnace. You don’t see a problem with that?

Being married gives you a better perspective on MARRIAGE problems…No my wife is not 300lbs. If she was I’d probably divorce her too, but because we had other problems as well is my guess. I love my wife for her not her body. She’s not gonna be smoking hot at 80 so…

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I’m saying lack of age likely = lack of experience. [/quote]

Just let it go.[/quote]

I just can’t. These guys are close enough to me in age that I just can’t…Call it a personality flaw. [/quote]

What does proximity of age have to do with this? If anything it should suggest that you are “likely” talking out of your ass just as much as we are “likely” doing so. [/quote]

It shows that like you I once, “talked out my ass,” (and still do on occassion) and I’m trying to help you see that. [/quote]

Wow, you need to get over yourself brother. The implied superiority here is just laughable.

I mean…Thank you so much for showing me the error of my ways! Ive never had any sort of father figure or male friend that is married or over the age of 26 that could have possibly bestowed any of your wonderful insight unto me!
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Whoaaa my bad bro, I respect you bro. You father figure failed you.

Don’t worry I’ll let you act like an ass unimpeded from now on though sweetie. [/quote]

Please dont…what will become of me without your guidance? How will i make it through the next 3 years of my life?[/quote]

I’m sure you’ll do just fine. In 3 years resurrect this thread and let me know how much you changed. It will be a lot.

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
This thread exploded. We have like three or four different things going on. Its usmccds22 vs yolo. We’ve got csulli vs mr. walkaway. We’ve got super saiyan, dmaddox, and Big Kahuna with fat pics. Completely amazed Derek is not filling this place with fat pics. And then the occasional person actually throws something in here that pertains to the topic. I wasted an entire 8 hr work day following this thing ha.[/quote]
Sorry had to go to a meeting and then dinner meeting. Trying to catch up now.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Wowza!!!

Page 14 already? Dayummmmm!

Won’t bother to read them all but I hope, OP, that you’d had shit load of good/crap advice from fellow Tnationers.[/quote]

Go back and read it all.

Do it.[/quote]

I’m tempted but I don’t know lol

On topic although it seems late to add my two cents …

I think it’s fair to treat a compulsive eater with the same level of tolerance you would an alcoholic or a drug addict. You offer your help and ask that they stop killing themselves if they want to continue a relationship with you but that they must understand you may have to leave them if it comes to that.

*Assuming this thread isn’t just a massive troll. Or that 300lbs isn’t actually 185lbs.

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At least go back and skim it to see the gifs and pics posted.

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Wowza!!!

Page 14 already? Dayummmmm!

Won’t bother to read them all but I hope, OP, that you’d had shit load of good/crap advice from fellow Tnationers.[/quote]

Go back and read it all.

Do it.[/quote]

I’m tempted but I don’t know lol

On topic although it seems late to add my two cents …

I think it’s fair to treat a compulsive eater with the same level of tolerance you would an alcoholic or a drug addict. You offer your help and ask that they stop killing themselves if they want to continue a relationship with you but that they must understand you may have to leave them if it comes to that.

*Assuming this thread isn’t just a massive troll. Or that 300lbs isn’t actually 185lbs.

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At least go back and skim it to see the gifs and pics posted.[/quote]

The fat gifs are worth the scroll through.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

http://www.library.spscc.ctc.edu/electronicreserve/bio113/rushton/TwoDeaths.pdf

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2,4-DNP has historically been used as a herbicide and fungicide.

I guess maybe JB isn’t all that dumb…
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I think maybe it’s more of an intermediary in the chemical production of herbicides. Even still, what difference does that really make? I mean the idea behind pointing out what shit it is used for is to show what a fucked up substance it is to put in your body. Being used in the manufacture of herbicides, being highly flammable, and being used to make fucking explosives are pretty good indicators that this shit is not the best for you.

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
Off topic ( not that it has mattered to this point) but anyone think this is legit, read post 44

Apparently people missed this post, but this was absolute gold. [/quote]
"Dear Billy,

This is your “wife” writing. Please note I am using this term loosely, because at the end of this letter, this will no longer be the case.

First of all, why are you putting our business on the internet? I have asked you and told you repeatedly that what happens to us is BETWEEN us. Clearly, your little plan to gain support backfired. Most of the people who commented on this thread AGREED WITH ME. The funny thing, is that they haven’t even heard my side of the story.

So, since you insist on insulting me, I must insist on defending myself. Let’s get a few things clear. When you are good, you are the greatest man I know. But ever since our child has been born, you have been nothing but a selfish idiot.

You are not the father of the year, so stop giving people the impression that you take care of her because I do all the work. She is 8 months old and I have been taking care of her ever since she was born. True, there was a month that you helped out because I called you a deadbeat dad, and you did take care of her after she was born because I had a C Section, but beyond that, the only time you take care of her is when you absolutely have to. Otherwise, you would rather pay for a sitter to do the job so you can spend your day online or working on your stupid car.

Which, incidentally, is under my name. Don’t forget that.

Furthermore, the problem we have is not about the car. It is about your order of importance. Every time you have to take the car in for maintenance, I don’t object. When you need to buy things that the car NEEDS, I don’t object. But when you want to waste your money on frivolous items when you know we need to spend money on other things, LIKE YOUR CITIZENSHIP SO YOU CAN GET A DAMN JOB! then I have a problem. I think your peers would agree with me.

I love you more than any person I have ever loved in my life, but you are impossible to live with. I am working over 50 hours a week, I am taking 18 credits in school, and I am raising our daughter when I am not doing one or the other. All you do is work as a bouncer 3 nights a week. Dude, get real.

Why is it wrong that I want you to spend time with me, with us? When did I become a bitch because I want you in our life? Being in a relationship means sacrifice. Contrary to what you wrote, the “$13K worth of sh*t” that is in my closet was acquired BEFORE YOU CAME INTO THE PICTURE. I got that on my own. There is a reason why I don’t have any new designer handbags, I have something much more valuable to me: MY DAUGHTER!!!

And, FYI, you are obligated to tell me what you are doing with your time and your money. I have a right to know where you are in case of emergency. Your “movements” as you call them are not what matters. What matters is that I know that you are safe and plan on coming home, because believe it or not I care about what happens to you. At least, I did.

In the end, I am sorry it came to this. I am sorry you felt that you had to talk to complete strangers about our problems instead of me. I am also sorry that this isn’t going to work anymore, because I really do love you.

Perhaps next time you shouldn’t leave your AcuraZine account logged on for me to view it. I have already opened up my own AcuraZine account, so if you delete this post, I will simply repost it under my own.

Hopefully with the next girl, you will have learned your lesson because I am tired of trying to raising you into being a man.

“And I’m on to the next one…”

Good Luck,
Rachel

P.S. Thank you to all that offered support. These last few months have been very challenging to me and it very endearing to see that I have the support of strangers. For those of you that have met us, I apologize that you had to see this. This kind of behavior is not appropriate. We are not legally married, and he has been given the option many times to leave if he is so unhappy.

I look forward to seeing the replys on this!!! FYI, if you do catch me on AcuraZine in the future (as I prefer to spend my free time with my daughter and not the internet), you will find me under MDX. Have to upgrade to a bigger car for the baby and dogs!

And don’t worry about me. I will be fine. It isn’t the first time the man I relied on showed me that he was unreliable."

PURE GOLD

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

http://www.library.spscc.ctc.edu/electronicreserve/bio113/rushton/TwoDeaths.pdf

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2,4-DNP has historically been used as a herbicide and fungicide.

I guess maybe JB isn’t all that dumb…
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I think maybe it’s more of an intermediary in the chemical production of herbicides. Even still, what difference does that really make? I mean the idea behind pointing out what shit it is used for is to show what a fucked up substance it is to put in your body. Being used in the manufacture of herbicides, being highly flammable, and being used to make fucking explosives are pretty good indicators that this shit is not the best for you.[/quote]
But…but…but…you can get shredded and you are just a fat powerlifter.

How sick will my abs look when I am dead

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

There’s a desperate hurting women over there who probably hates to open her eyes in the morning and all anybody (just about) cares about is whether this guy is happy. Yeah, she’s probably angry and nasty and impossible to get along with on top of being obese too. That’s how hurting people are. None of that is the point. Marriage (on the human level), including sex, is ALL about GIVING every bit of yourself on every level and in every way to another and ESPECIALLY when they least deserve it and are most difficult to live with. That’s when they need you most.

Marriage was designed by God, one man and one woman, for life, as an earthly illustration of the covenant relationship of Christ with His church bride. He GAVE Himself in a gruesome bloody death to redeem His people, his bride, from death themselves. He commands husbands to love their wives this way. (see the 5th chapter of the apostle Paul’s letter to the church at Ephesus) No matter what else may happen, children are equipped for life by watching their fathers love their mothers. Of course, we won’t do that on our own. How well I know, having learned this lesson the very hard way by almost destroying the wife of my youth with my own self serving childishness. Even after I should have known better.

Nevermind. Whatever on earth could I have been thinking? This guy needs to get laid and save money. Carry on.[/quote]

I’ve been reading a lot of your posts, and as a Christian brother I gotta say… what you write sounds WAY too preachy for my tastes…

anyways OP, for your wife…

2iu Keifei somatropin AM (before 30 minutes fasted walk) and 2iu PM (on empty stomach)
50-75mcg t3 ED
12mg test E Monday/Thursday
low dose DNP for 6 weeks

if that doesn’t work, time for a divorce
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If all that shit doesn’t work, it’s not time for a divorce. It’s time to give her a .357 Magnum with a bullet in it and tell her to do herself a favor.
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hahaha right?[/quote]

Right. Tell herself to grow a fucking pair and get it over with already. All she’s doing is killing herself with all that weight. What’s the difference between cleaning up all the puke and shit she produces after her goddamned food binges and cleaning up her brains after she splatters them all over the kitchen?

You only have to clean her brains up once.

And if any of you guys think I’m being overly harsh here, fuck off and die. This is obviously a troll thread. Has the OP even made one single fucking post since he started this bastard?

The OP probably can’t post any updates on the situation because he got stuck underneath her after she passed out and fell into a food coma.[/quote]

Why is your avatar a picture of 200lb weights? Are you even 200lbs…?[/quote]

They’re 49ers dumbbells from their training facility. And yes, I weigh more than 200. 6’1" and 205 lbs motherfucker. I’ve got a picture or two posted in the old photo checkin thread from a few months back. Why don’t you check it out so you can jerk off to a picture of me instead of that ratty old picture of your fat fucking mom you’ve been hiding in your wallet?

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

http://www.library.spscc.ctc.edu/electronicreserve/bio113/rushton/TwoDeaths.pdf

[/quote]
2,4-DNP has historically been used as a herbicide and fungicide.

I guess maybe JB isn’t all that dumb…
[/quote]
I think maybe it’s more of an intermediary in the chemical production of herbicides. Even still, what difference does that really make? I mean the idea behind pointing out what shit it is used for is to show what a fucked up substance it is to put in your body. Being used in the manufacture of herbicides, being highly flammable, and being used to make fucking explosives are pretty good indicators that this shit is not the best for you.[/quote]
But…but…but…you can get shredded and you are just a fat powerlifter.

How sick will my abs look when I am dead[/quote]

0% body fat = holy grail??

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I’m saying lack of age likely = lack of experience. [/quote]

Just let it go.[/quote]

I just can’t. These guys are close enough to me in age that I just can’t…Call it a personality flaw. [/quote]

What does proximity of age have to do with this? If anything it should suggest that you are “likely” talking out of your ass just as much as we are “likely” doing so. [/quote]

It shows that like you I once, “talked out my ass,” (and still do on occassion) and I’m trying to help you see that. [/quote]

Wow, you need to get over yourself brother. The implied superiority here is just laughable.

I mean…Thank you so much for showing me the error of my ways! Ive never had any sort of father figure or male friend that is married or over the age of 26 that could have possibly bestowed any of your wonderful insight unto me!
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Whoaaa my bad bro, I respect you bro. You father figure failed you.

Don’t worry I’ll let you act like an ass unimpeded from now on though sweetie. [/quote]

Please dont…what will become of me without your guidance? How will i make it through the next 3 years of my life?[/quote]

I’m sure you’ll do just fine. In 3 years resurrect this thread and let me know how much you changed. It will be a lot. [/quote]

Ain’t this the truth? Anyone who’s been 27 can tell you how much they’ve changed from 22-27. I’m about to be 28 and if I’m exactly the same when I’m 33 I’ll be pretty disappointed.