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[quote]tootles27 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]tootles27 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
It’s also more quad dominant, so maybe the quads handle more of the stress, and relieve the knees?

That might be complete and udder bullshit though, I don’t know for sure.[/quote]

When I first started squatting maybe 8-9 yrs ago, I felt it all in my hams. They were monsters.

Now I can actually feel it in my quads, they burn like a mofo. I know it has to do with depth, but it’s a huge difference.[/quote]
Back squats, with good depth, tear up my hams and glutes.

Front squats rip my quads more, but I still feel it 'round back[/quote]

My trainer from back in the day used to make me do front squats all the time cause my quads would get nothing. Now I just do back squats (until I am the master) and I feel them alot more. It makes me wonder what the hell I was doing before.[/quote]
Form was different maybe? Who knows?!

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Now I’m going to have to do some front squats again so that I can compare.

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[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]tootles27 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]tootles27 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
It’s also more quad dominant, so maybe the quads handle more of the stress, and relieve the knees?

That might be complete and udder bullshit though, I don’t know for sure.[/quote]

When I first started squatting maybe 8-9 yrs ago, I felt it all in my hams. They were monsters.

Now I can actually feel it in my quads, they burn like a mofo. I know it has to do with depth, but it’s a huge difference.[/quote]
Back squats, with good depth, tear up my hams and glutes.

Front squats rip my quads more, but I still feel it 'round back[/quote]

My trainer from back in the day used to make me do front squats all the time cause my quads would get nothing. Now I just do back squats (until I am the master) and I feel them alot more. It makes me wonder what the hell I was doing before.[/quote]
Form was different maybe? Who knows?![/quote]

The bar is a bit lower on my back but other than that…

Yeah, I have a problem letting things go. I saw someone doing front squats with decent weight today and I was wondering if I should try them again. I have a feeling that this gym I’ve been going to has alot of fellow TNer’s. Shugs even came there a few years back for some seminar I think.

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[quote]tootles27 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]tootles27 wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
It’s also more quad dominant, so maybe the quads handle more of the stress, and relieve the knees?

That might be complete and udder bullshit though, I don’t know for sure.[/quote]

When I first started squatting maybe 8-9 yrs ago, I felt it all in my hams. They were monsters.

Now I can actually feel it in my quads, they burn like a mofo. I know it has to do with depth, but it’s a huge difference.[/quote]
Back squats, with good depth, tear up my hams and glutes.

Front squats rip my quads more, but I still feel it 'round back[/quote]

My trainer from back in the day used to make me do front squats all the time cause my quads would get nothing. Now I just do back squats (until I am the master) and I feel them alot more. It makes me wonder what the hell I was doing before.[/quote]

Pictures, we need lots and lots of befores and afters…

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Squatting soreness for me is pretty predictable. It relates to foot spacing. Front squats = quads & abs
Back squats with a wide stance is all Hams, Glutes & Erectors. (I’ve got a bit of “The beans’ Good Morning ™” on higher rep back squats.
(do you think he’s asleep yet?, will he be fuming? tune in tomorrow…)

If I back squat with a narrow stance, it’s all quads & glutes. every body is different I guess.

Lunges just equal “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…” all over.

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[quote]Mad_Duck wrote:
Squatting soreness for me is pretty predictable. It relates to foot spacing. Front squats = quads & abs
Back squats with a wide stance is all Hams, Glutes & Erectors. (I’ve got a bit of “The beans’ Good Morning ™” on higher rep back squats.
(do you think he’s asleep yet?, will he be fuming? tune in tomorrow…)

If I back squat with a narrow stance, it’s all quads & glutes. every body is different I guess.

Lunges just equal “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…” all over.[/quote]

Makes sense Ducky. Lunges…I add them back in this week…oh boy.

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Duck- Stance is a big factor here too. Narrow = Quads, Wide = backside.

And lunges…fuck lunges! Those things rip me all to shreds

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Lunges r turrable

They’re high on my arch nemisis exercise list:

  1. Back squats recently
  2. Incline BB
  3. Lunges/single leg work in general
  4. Pullups
  5. GHR’s
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[quote]trav123456 wrote:
My knees feel like absolute shit when I back squat nowadays, I’ve been pre exausting with extensions so they feel good and my numbers are garbage because of it. Last squat session was the last straw, they just felt like garbage and I couldn’t do anything without about 4 sets of extensions, and after that I could only get 275x6. I’ve been reading about Bruno’s experience with knee pain and I think in addition to getting some knee sleeves I’m going to swap back squats (the only movement with pain) for leg press. I can still front squat okay so that should maintain some semblence of strength on the lift I imagine.[/quote]

Trav, maybe you could try stretching the legs more from various angles. Try massaging the muscles and ligaments around the knee a bit. Also try going for feel with lighter weights and for pump. Focus on the feel and the muscle contracting, this might help force the stress more into the muscle instead of the joint. Make sure when squatting that all the weight is in the heel area, and you can wiggle the toes.

Just a few things that you can try along with training, also make sure to get plenty of fluids and maybe even try out some joint supplements. Just a few suggestions that helped me out alot when i had knee pain.

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[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:

[quote]trav123456 wrote:
My knees feel like absolute shit when I back squat nowadays, I’ve been pre exausting with extensions so they feel good and my numbers are garbage because of it. Last squat session was the last straw, they just felt like garbage and I couldn’t do anything without about 4 sets of extensions, and after that I could only get 275x6. I’ve been reading about Bruno’s experience with knee pain and I think in addition to getting some knee sleeves I’m going to swap back squats (the only movement with pain) for leg press. I can still front squat okay so that should maintain some semblence of strength on the lift I imagine.[/quote]

Trav, maybe you could try stretching the legs more from various angles. Try massaging the muscles and ligaments around the knee a bit. Also try going for feel with lighter weights and for pump. Focus on the feel and the muscle contracting, this might help force the stress more into the muscle instead of the joint. Make sure when squatting that all the weight is in the heel area, and you can wiggle the toes.

Just a few things that you can try along with training, also make sure to get plenty of fluids and maybe even try out some joint supplements. Just a few suggestions that helped me out alot when i had knee pain. [/quote]

Just for clarification, the pain is actually right above my knee in my quad, I think it might be the tendon/ligament. I stretch my legs right after I train them. High reps feel just as bad, I can’t even warm up without pain unless I do the leg extensions before hand. I usually end up doing:

barx20
ext’s x20
135x5-10
ext’s x20
185x5-10

and on, usually by the time I hit 225 it feels okay but I’ve also fatigued my quads enough to fuck up my top set obviously.

What kind of joint supps do you reccomend? I’ve never used any.

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I’ll probably start stretching on off days, it’s done wonders for my shoulders so it’s probably a good idea.

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[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
Beans, you’re my inspiration for squats dude. You’re a fucking beast, and should change your name to CountingReps or something, TheCountingBeast maybe.

But then you’d lost the ‘beans’ - ‘bean-town’ relationship…[/quote]

Lol, thanks man. I think I work on hitting higher weights for a week or four then go back to the widows (I again am listening to other people, which is a fucking amazing thing I tell you, amazing.). I want 315 fucking bad, but I know if I keep pushing at this point I’ll just drive myself into the ground.

I want it tho. I want it more than Bass wants boobs, Trav wants court and Court want penis.
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315x20 would be bad fucking ass. First I need to get it for 1, then I shoot for 20
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Where are you at right now?
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Monday I got 205x8, so I’d say a bit over 250 max? It is low, but it’s gone up drastically since starting 5/3/1 less than three months ago.[/quote]

I haven’t read 5/3/1, but you should be well upwards of 315 soon, assuming you don’t eat into your recovery too bad with your sled work.

Just keep the protein high.

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[quote]Mad_Duck wrote:
Squatting soreness for me is pretty predictable. It relates to foot spacing. Front squats = quads & abs
Back squats with a wide stance is all Hams, Glutes & Erectors. (I’ve got a bit of “The beans’ Good Morning ™” on higher rep back squats.
(do you think he’s asleep yet?, will he be fuming? tune in tomorrow…)

If I back squat with a narrow stance, it’s all quads & glutes. every body is different I guess.

Lunges just equal “FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…” all over.[/quote]

Funny, I can take my stance out wide, and as long as I THINK about my quads, they do most of the work.

Don’t get me wrong I still get plent of PC work, and with my forward lean my back gets hit too, but I can get an mind muscle with my quads. AFter rep 15 it is 85% tear drop.

FML I can’t get a MMC with curls but can with squats. lol

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[quote]trav123456 wrote:

[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:

[quote]trav123456 wrote:
My knees feel like absolute shit when I back squat nowadays, I’ve been pre exausting with extensions so they feel good and my numbers are garbage because of it. Last squat session was the last straw, they just felt like garbage and I couldn’t do anything without about 4 sets of extensions, and after that I could only get 275x6. I’ve been reading about Bruno’s experience with knee pain and I think in addition to getting some knee sleeves I’m going to swap back squats (the only movement with pain) for leg press. I can still front squat okay so that should maintain some semblence of strength on the lift I imagine.[/quote]

Trav, maybe you could try stretching the legs more from various angles. Try massaging the muscles and ligaments around the knee a bit. Also try going for feel with lighter weights and for pump. Focus on the feel and the muscle contracting, this might help force the stress more into the muscle instead of the joint. Make sure when squatting that all the weight is in the heel area, and you can wiggle the toes.

Just a few things that you can try along with training, also make sure to get plenty of fluids and maybe even try out some joint supplements. Just a few suggestions that helped me out alot when i had knee pain. [/quote]

Just for clarification, the pain is actually right above my knee in my quad, I think it might be the tendon/ligament. I stretch my legs right after I train them. High reps feel just as bad, I can’t even warm up without pain unless I do the leg extensions before hand. I usually end up doing:

barx20
ext’s x20
135x5-10
ext’s x20
185x5-10

and on, usually by the time I hit 225 it feels okay but I’ve also fatigued my quads enough to fuck up my top set obviously.

What kind of joint supps do you reccomend? I’ve never used any.[/quote]

Proper warm up,Ice, and sretching is the best supplement for joint recovery…most of the time the “joint discomfort” comes from lack of flexibilty around the joint.

But if you ned an actual “medicating aid”, Animal Flex will bulletproof you!

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Marm warm up and cool down sessions are both around twenty minutes…seperate workouts almost…bringing back the lost art, I guess.

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I’m the lunge QUEEN!

I did reverse alt lunges with 95 yesterday :wink:

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[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
I’ma DRAG QUEEN!

Work…CoverGirl :wink: [/quote]

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Marm warm up and cool down sessions are both around twenty minutes…seperate workouts almost…bringing back the lost art, I guess.[/quote]

Man, totally. It sometimes feels ridiculous to be at the gym for 20 min and then be ready to lift.

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For the record, I didn’t complain about guys checking out my boobs. I made a statement that they were doing so and you all assumed I was complaining. I said it was kinda funny.

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[quote]Court wrote:
my luvah Polo[/quote]

This is all I got outta your post … and I gotta tell ya it made a dull morning shine like polished copper