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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:
Whats wrong with jump squats?

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Because why do your feet have to leave the ground? Normal squats work quite well.

Working harder isn’t always better than working smarter.

The additional benefit from your feet leaving the ground with a loaded spine CANNOT, in any way, out weight the risks to the spine, hips, knees and ankles. You will never convince me they are worth the risk, my common sense meter just won’t allow me to swallow that load.

Housewives, casual lifters, and Joe and Janet sixpack have no fucking business doing such a risky movement IMO.

Rock, I don’t hate you, but will say I feel it is a major flaw in your programming, and it is foolish, in general to have people doing this.

What crazy ass newsletter was circulated with this stupid shit sold so hard that EVERY toolbox has out-of-shape women fucking up their knees doing stupid movements?

If someone had my wife do that, I would slap the fucking shit out of him.[/quote]

I train athletes and it seems to really help explosive force. The same as with weighted depth jumps. I’ve done them in preparation for tournaments where speed,explosion, and overall reflex that a jump squat.depth jump gives rather than the “grinding torture” strength of a normal squat.

I agree on not having the casual gym goer do them but in the case of an athlete, yes, they work great…The transition from football linemen to heavyweight wrestler (squat to jump squat), the difference in reaction time is ridiculous…also, the jump squat isnt a primary its more for mobilty, no one is using near max loads and the normal squat is still in place.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:
Whats wrong with jump squats?

[/quote]

Because why do your feet have to leave the ground? Normal squats work quite well.

Working harder isn’t always better than working smarter.

The additional benefit from your feet leaving the ground with a loaded spine CANNOT, in any way, out weight the risks to the spine, hips, knees and ankles. You will never convince me they are worth the risk, my common sense meter just won’t allow me to swallow that load.

Housewives, casual lifters, and Joe and Janet sixpack have no fucking business doing such a risky movement IMO.

Rock, I don’t hate you, but will say I feel it is a major flaw in your programming, and it is foolish, in general to have people doing this.

What crazy ass newsletter was circulated with this stupid shit sold so hard that EVERY toolbox has out-of-shape women fucking up their knees doing stupid movements?

If someone had my wife do that, I would slap the fucking shit out of him.[/quote]

I don’t do them, I just wanted to see what you had to say. Good argument against them. True, I have never really seen anyone very athletic looking doing them. I think regular (unweighted) plyometrics would suffice.

Also, you might want to refrain from using the phrase “just won’t allow me to swallow that load.” Could be taken out of context.

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[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:
Whats wrong with jump squats?

[/quote]

Because why do your feet have to leave the ground? Normal squats work quite well.

Working harder isn’t always better than working smarter.

The additional benefit from your feet leaving the ground with a loaded spine CANNOT, in any way, out weight the risks to the spine, hips, knees and ankles. You will never convince me they are worth the risk, my common sense meter just won’t allow me to swallow that load.

Housewives, casual lifters, and Joe and Janet sixpack have no fucking business doing such a risky movement IMO.

Rock, I don’t hate you, but will say I feel it is a major flaw in your programming, and it is foolish, in general to have people doing this.

What crazy ass newsletter was circulated with this stupid shit sold so hard that EVERY toolbox has out-of-shape women fucking up their knees doing stupid movements?

If someone had my wife do that, I would slap the fucking shit out of him.[/quote]

I don’t do them, I just wanted to see what you had to say. Good argument against them. True, I have never really seen anyone very athletic looking doing them. I think regular (unweighted) plyometrics would suffice.

Also, you might want to refrain from using the phrase “just won’t allow me to swallow that load.” Could be taken out of context.
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Yeah I used that on purpose…

My disdain all started from a convo with this chick at work. She desperately wants her college body back, but has been sold on the “not to bulky” “lifting heavy will turn me intoz tha Colmanz” bullshit. So she wants to “tone” blah blah blah. SO this dude rips her off doing stupid shit and doesn’t even talk diet beyond fucking fiber bars…

Her: My legs are sore. Are your knees supposed to be sore?
Me: You mean teh tear drop? (I point to it.)
Her: I guess so, We did jump squats
Me: You have been going for a month, why the fuck are your feet leaving the ground with weight on your shoulders?
Her: He is really smart
Me: I disagree

Two days later

Her: you were right, my knee is all fucked up…

You want Kobe Bryant to do jump squats, fine. Some everyday, slightly overweight, girl with awesome perfume? Not so much.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:
Whats wrong with jump squats?

[/quote]

Because why do your feet have to leave the ground? Normal squats work quite well.

Working harder isn’t always better than working smarter.

The additional benefit from your feet leaving the ground with a loaded spine CANNOT, in any way, out weight the risks to the spine, hips, knees and ankles. You will never convince me they are worth the risk, my common sense meter just won’t allow me to swallow that load.

Housewives, casual lifters, and Joe and Janet sixpack have no fucking business doing such a risky movement IMO.

Rock, I don’t hate you, but will say I feel it is a major flaw in your programming, and it is foolish, in general to have people doing this.

What crazy ass newsletter was circulated with this stupid shit sold so hard that EVERY toolbox has out-of-shape women fucking up their knees doing stupid movements?

If someone had my wife do that, I would slap the fucking shit out of him.[/quote]

eh, I’m ok with DB squat jumps, the specifics being: I’m relatively experienced, if I’m deliberately doing speed-work/working on my vertical (ie: not during a bodybuilding cycle), I’m doing them while fresh - without using fuckup form, and I stop “way early” ie: a couple of reps before my form goes.

I’m with you though, on the risk/benefit ratio of a loaded spine vs using DB’s I can safely dump if things go awry.

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[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:
Whats wrong with jump squats?

[/quote]

Because why do your feet have to leave the ground? Normal squats work quite well.

Working harder isn’t always better than working smarter.

The additional benefit from your feet leaving the ground with a loaded spine CANNOT, in any way, out weight the risks to the spine, hips, knees and ankles. You will never convince me they are worth the risk, my common sense meter just won’t allow me to swallow that load.

Housewives, casual lifters, and Joe and Janet sixpack have no fucking business doing such a risky movement IMO.

Rock, I don’t hate you, but will say I feel it is a major flaw in your programming, and it is foolish, in general to have people doing this.

What crazy ass newsletter was circulated with this stupid shit sold so hard that EVERY toolbox has out-of-shape women fucking up their knees doing stupid movements?

If someone had my wife do that, I would slap the fucking shit out of him.[/quote]

I don’t do them, I just wanted to see what you had to say. Good argument against them. True, I have never really seen anyone very athletic looking doing them. I think regular (unweighted) plyometrics would suffice.

Also, you might want to refrain from using the phrase “just won’t allow me to swallow that load.” Could be taken out of context.
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not to keep score or anything, but he also said:

I made my previous ^ post before beans’ last ^^ came up.

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Bass will be in Aruba from the 12th thru 20th, I r sorry beans

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[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Bass will be in Aruba from the 12th thru 20th, I r sorry beans[/quote]

I fucking love Aruba…

Smoke a cuban for me

Were you in John Brewers today by any chance?

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I def. hate the “toning” bullshit. Everytime a girl at work asks me something about working out, i’ll start by saying something generic like lifting weights, then doing cardio/intervals whatever afterwards. As soon as I start talking about lifting, its all “i dont want to get big” or “i just want to tone.” I tell them they’re not gonna get huge unless they’re on the juice. They are just afraid of weights, besides machines that involve sitting on your ass.

I use “they” as the collective for people that are ill-informed about the benefits of lifting weights, besides getting huge.

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[quote]redleg32002000 wrote:
I def. hate the “toning” bullshit. Everytime a girl at work asks me something about working out, i’ll start by saying something generic like lifting weights, then doing cardio/intervals whatever afterwards. As soon as I start talking about lifting, its all “i dont want to get big” or “i just want to tone.” I tell them they’re not gonna get huge unless they’re on the juice. They are just afraid of weights, besides machines that involve sitting on your ass.

I use “they” as the collective for people that are ill-informed about the benefits of lifting weights, besides getting huge. [/quote]

Sheesh, I’m just trying to get small first…I wanna make sure I even have muscles before I worry about getting “big.”

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Bass will be in Aruba from the 12th thru 20th, I r sorry beans[/quote]

I fucking love Aruba…

Smoke a cuban for me

Were you in John Brewers today by any chance?[/quote]

WTF is John Brewers

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oh everytime I’m out of the country I smoke at least one Cuban cigar every other day. It’s the only time I smoke, once or twice a year.

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[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Bass will be in Aruba from the 12th thru 20th, I r sorry beans[/quote]

I fucking love Aruba…

Smoke a cuban for me

Were you in John Brewers today by any chance?[/quote]

WTF is John Brewers[/quote]

Did you stop by a tavern/bar with a chick around noon? You had a sleeveless shirt, couple tattoos and nice delts?

That was you dawg wasn’t it?

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Nah, I don’t live in waltham, I didn’t go to a bar today, I don’t have any tats, and mah delts are mediocre at best. At noon I was having lunch with 3 co-workers at mah job’s cafeteria.

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I have never done jump squats. When I was a fat hausfrau I started with goblet squats. Now I’m ATG with 95 pounds.

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  1. LOL @ Greenie entering the “bulk or cut” debate

  2. I heartily disagree with V’s water cutting protocol. At 175 carbed up, dropping 10 lbs for a 2 hour weigh in is miserable, and I follow high salt and water → drop carbs → drop salt → drop water no more than 24 hours beforehand → hot baths → spit. It depends on her weight and the weigh in window. 10 lbs of water is fucking miserable. I’m pissing gel and certainly not shitting with 24 hours of no water and spitting. The lower your body fat/weight, the harder it is to cut significant weight. Once you cut water, you have to cut it entirely or your body is going to hold every drop.

Cutting carbs and increasing water will drop maybe five lbs for me, cutting water will cut 5-7 in 24 hrs. I have a two hour weigh in; if yours is longer, you can cut more (but you can still hurt yourself).

You weigh a lot less than me, at a probable lower body fat percentage.

135 is kind of absurdly low for a weight class, but I have an anvil in my ass. I could never make it to that, and I wouldn’t want to be against chicks who outweigh me by 100 lbs. Too bad you don’t have Wilks for BJJ.

  1. I’ve been at a trade show all day. I left the house this morning and forgot to wear panties. Serious. They were in the dryer and I was running late, and I was 2 minutes away from my house when I realized I’d forgotten them. I’d intended to pull them from the dryer as I left.

  2. V’s cutting advice isn’t what I’d follow, but I’d still chill at his casa.

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[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Nah, I don’t live in waltham, I didn’t go to a bar today, I don’t have any tats, and mah delts are mediocre at best. At noon I was having lunch with 3 co-workers at mah job’s cafeteria. [/quote]

…other than that, it sounds like you’re a dead ringer for the guy he saw.

unless “lunch with co-workers” is code for “slipped out the back to a titty-bar”.

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  1. I’ve been at a trade show all day. I left the house this morning and forgot to wear panties. Serious. They were in the dryer and I was running late, and I was 2 minutes away from my house when I realized I’d forgotten them. I’d intended to pull them from the dryer as I left.
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Okay I’ve honestly never done this and I’m trying to figure out how this could happen. Were you wearing a skirt?

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[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

  1. LOL @ Greenie entering the “bulk or cut” debate
    .[/quote]

I got this, m’lady.

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Yeah, I was in a dress, got dressed upstairs and ran out the door. I LOL’d at me.