Escalation in Israel

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Jewbacca should do the same, preferably in the same post that he answers why he refused to capitalize “Muslim”.[/quote]
Maybe he doesn’t recognize it as a legitimate religion. Maybe it makes him feel good. Who knows? Why keep bringing it up? I guess there is a larger point you are trying to make regarding this about the attitudes of Israelis as a whole.

Otherwise you may as well just make a new thread on policing people on the internet who may hypothetically offend a group of people that isn’t even represented in the audience.[/quote]

My point is this, and I’ve already made it: Jewbacca argues that it’s the Palestinians who don’t want a state since they have rejected every Israeli proposal to create one. If Jewbacca’s blatant disrespect of all Arabs and Muslims by passively-aggressively denigrating them is indicative of Israeli attitudes in general (and I suspect that it is) then I don’t blame Palestinians for refusing to accept a state under Israeli terms. I wouldn’t expect blacks to accept civil rights legislature from a group who refers to them as “niggers”.

Like I said earlier, don’t sell me the hooker with the heart of gold. That is essentially what Jewbacca is doing, and he compounds things further by claiming to be a devout worshipper of God/Yahweh on the one hand while arguing about moral equivalency on the other.[/quote]

And yet blacks overwhelmingly support the political party that fought to keep them enslaved and then segregated.
[/quote]

Are you kidding?[/quote]

That’s historical FACT, bro…

“I’ll have those N*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years”
-LBJ

I mean, until quite recently, the Democratic party was overwhelmingly racist. Then they figured if they give poor minorities free shit that they can buy their votes. It could be argued that those despicable policies are responsible for the overwhelming percentage of poor African Americans today.

Are you disputing these FACTS?

Sorry, buddy but your “hope and change” party has some pretty nasty recent history.

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[quote]BPCorso wrote:

Also, aside from the Sephardis, there are the Mizrahim Jews who are the Jews that never left the ME and definitely do not look European. And then the Iranian Jews, who look no different than Persian Iranians. Plenty of these people currently in Israel. I wonder if they are treated the same as the Ashkenazis.

It would be cool if Jewbacca could comment on that, even though it’s a tangent to the topic. [/quote]

This thread rapidly deteriorated into silliness; I’ll post an answer on the “Ask Moshe” thread.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Jewbacca should do the same, preferably in the same post that he answers why he refused to capitalize “Muslim”.[/quote]
Maybe he doesn’t recognize it as a legitimate religion. Maybe it makes him feel good. Who knows? Why keep bringing it up? I guess there is a larger point you are trying to make regarding this about the attitudes of Israelis as a whole.

Otherwise you may as well just make a new thread on policing people on the internet who may hypothetically offend a group of people that isn’t even represented in the audience.[/quote]

My point is this, and I’ve already made it: Jewbacca argues that it’s the Palestinians who don’t want a state since they have rejected every Israeli proposal to create one. If Jewbacca’s blatant disrespect of all Arabs and Muslims by passively-aggressively denigrating them is indicative of Israeli attitudes in general (and I suspect that it is) then I don’t blame Palestinians for refusing to accept a state under Israeli terms. I wouldn’t expect blacks to accept civil rights legislature from a group who refers to them as “niggers”.

Like I said earlier, don’t sell me the hooker with the heart of gold. That is essentially what Jewbacca is doing, and he compounds things further by claiming to be a devout worshipper of God/Yahweh on the one hand while arguing about moral equivalency on the other.[/quote]

And yet blacks overwhelmingly support the political party that fought to keep them enslaved and then segregated.
[/quote]

Are you kidding?[/quote]

37% of House Dems voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act as well as 31% of Senate Dems. Over 80% of Republicans voted for it in both houses. A Republican President freed the slaves even if that wasn’t his primary goal. Democrats support abortion which has led to an abortion rate among blacks that is 4x higher than whites. Democrats created the Jim Crow laws. Guess what party Bull Connor belonged to…yep the Democrat party as well as being a member of the KKK. Ever heard of Robert Byrd? The Dem Senator who died in 2010 who was a past member of the KKK. Check out the voting record of the Democrats on civil rights issues for the 80 years prior to 1964.
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I’m more than familiar with the voting records of each party on civil rights legislature. What does this have to do with anything? The parties are entirely different now, especially given that all the old Dixiecrats are now Republicans. The party changed, the voting preferences of blacks changed.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Jewbacca should do the same, preferably in the same post that he answers why he refused to capitalize “Muslim”.[/quote]
Maybe he doesn’t recognize it as a legitimate religion. Maybe it makes him feel good. Who knows? Why keep bringing it up? I guess there is a larger point you are trying to make regarding this about the attitudes of Israelis as a whole.

Otherwise you may as well just make a new thread on policing people on the internet who may hypothetically offend a group of people that isn’t even represented in the audience.[/quote]

My point is this, and I’ve already made it: Jewbacca argues that it’s the Palestinians who don’t want a state since they have rejected every Israeli proposal to create one. If Jewbacca’s blatant disrespect of all Arabs and Muslims by passively-aggressively denigrating them is indicative of Israeli attitudes in general (and I suspect that it is) then I don’t blame Palestinians for refusing to accept a state under Israeli terms. I wouldn’t expect blacks to accept civil rights legislature from a group who refers to them as “niggers”.

Like I said earlier, don’t sell me the hooker with the heart of gold. That is essentially what Jewbacca is doing, and he compounds things further by claiming to be a devout worshipper of God/Yahweh on the one hand while arguing about moral equivalency on the other.[/quote]

And yet blacks overwhelmingly support the political party that fought to keep them enslaved and then segregated.
[/quote]

Are you kidding?[/quote]

That’s historical FACT, bro…

“I’ll have those N*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years”
-LBJ

I mean, until quite recently, the Democratic party was overwhelmingly racist. Then they figured if they give poor minorities free shit that they can buy their votes. It could be argued that those despicable policies are responsible for the overwhelming percentage of poor African Americans today.

Are you disputing these FACTS?

Sorry, buddy but your “hope and change” party has some pretty nasty recent history.[/quote]

First of all, I’ve never voted Democrat so don’t call it my party.

I am well aware of what csulli is getting at and I’m not disputing any facts. It’s just silly to argue this, given that the Democratic Party is much different now than it was then.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
It’s just silly to argue this, given that the Democratic Party is much different now than it was then. [/quote]

Oh, yes, much different.

We would never have a Democratic president in the 21st century who would regularly refer to black civil rights leaders as “goddamned niggers”, nor would his wife, now a serious contender for the presidency, ever utter the word “nigger”, or refer to members of the Jewish community (or her husband, facetiously) as “motherfucking Jew”, “Jew boy” or “fucking Jew bastard”.

And we would never have a cynical Democratic party field a puppet candidate with no significant qualifications for office other than just enough melanin in his skin to appeal to the majority of black voters.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, yes, much different.

We would never have a Democratic president in the 21st century who would regularly refer to black civil rights leaders as “goddamned niggers”, nor would his wife, now a serious contender for the presidency, ever utter the word “nigger”, or refer to members of the Jewish community (or her husband, facetiously) as “motherfucking Jew”, “Jew boy” or “fucking Jew bastard”.

And we would never have a cynical Democratic party field a puppet candidate with no significant qualifications for office other than just enough melanin in his skin to appeal to the majority of black voters.
[/quote]

You almost seem to be implying that the Democrats still regard blacks as ignorant and treat them somewhat like slaves.

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[quote]NickViar wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, yes, much different.

We would never have a Democratic president in the 21st century who would regularly refer to black civil rights leaders as “goddamned niggers”, nor would his wife, now a serious contender for the presidency, ever utter the word “nigger”, or refer to members of the Jewish community (or her husband, facetiously) as “motherfucking Jew”, “Jew boy” or “fucking Jew bastard”.

And we would never have a cynical Democratic party field a puppet candidate with no significant qualifications for office other than just enough melanin in his skin to appeal to the majority of black voters.
[/quote]

You almost seem to be implying that the Democrats still regard blacks as ignorant and treat them somewhat like slaves. [/quote]

Oh, gosh, no. Far be it from me to ever imply something like that. I am sure that all Democrats consider people of all races to be exactly equal in every way.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
sets up blockades (literally starvings) Palestine [/quote]

Sorry, this was just such a bald face lie, I couldn’t leave it alone.

Here:

Gaza/West bank has the 8th highest obesity rate in the world among men and the 3rd highest in the world among women with about half of the women being obese (higher than the USA)

Maybe it’s because the fast food restaurants all over Gaza/West Bank like, say Pizza Hut and Kentucky Fried Chicken:

Seriously Pitt, are you a just a tremendous liar or just misinformed?[/quote]

Malnourished Palestinians aside, I believe our friend is referring to the Gaza blockade, which is almost universally held to be a breach of international law by scholars and practitioners of the discipline.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
sets up blockades (literally starvings) Palestine [/quote]

Sorry, this was just such a bald face lie, I couldn’t leave it alone.

Here:

Gaza/West bank has the 8th highest obesity rate in the world among men and the 3rd highest in the world among women with about half of the women being obese (higher than the USA)

Maybe it’s because the fast food restaurants all over Gaza/West Bank like, say Pizza Hut and Kentucky Fried Chicken:

Seriously Pitt, are you a just a tremendous liar or just misinformed?[/quote]

Malnourished Palestinians aside, I believe our friend is referring to the Gaza blockade, which is almost universally held to be a breach of international law by scholars and practitioners of the discipline. [/quote]

In September 2011, the UN released their long-awaited Palmer Report - a 105 page document based on research and hearings conducted over the course of more than a year.

The report concluded that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is “LEGAL”, “appropriate”, and consistent with international law.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
sets up blockades (literally starvings) Palestine [/quote]

Sorry, this was just such a bald face lie, I couldn’t leave it alone.

Here:

Gaza/West bank has the 8th highest obesity rate in the world among men and the 3rd highest in the world among women with about half of the women being obese (higher than the USA)

Maybe it’s because the fast food restaurants all over Gaza/West Bank like, say Pizza Hut and Kentucky Fried Chicken:

Seriously Pitt, are you a just a tremendous liar or just misinformed?[/quote]

Malnourished Palestinians aside, I believe our friend is referring to the Gaza blockade, which is almost universally held to be a breach of international law by scholars and practitioners of the discipline. [/quote]

In September 2011, the UN released their long-awaited Palmer Report - a 105 page document based on research and hearings conducted over the course of more than a year.

The report concluded that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is “LEGAL”, “appropriate”, and consistent with international law.[/quote]

Neither of the two authors of the Palmer report (Geoffrey Palmer and Alvaro Uribe) have expertise in international law; ergo, their findings are not credible.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
sets up blockades (literally starvings) Palestine [/quote]

Sorry, this was just such a bald face lie, I couldn’t leave it alone.

Here:

Gaza/West bank has the 8th highest obesity rate in the world among men and the 3rd highest in the world among women with about half of the women being obese (higher than the USA)

Maybe it’s because the fast food restaurants all over Gaza/West Bank like, say Pizza Hut and Kentucky Fried Chicken:

Seriously Pitt, are you a just a tremendous liar or just misinformed?[/quote]

Malnourished Palestinians aside, I believe our friend is referring to the Gaza blockade, which is almost universally held to be a breach of international law by scholars and practitioners of the discipline. [/quote]

In September 2011, the UN released their long-awaited Palmer Report - a 105 page document based on research and hearings conducted over the course of more than a year.

The report concluded that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is “LEGAL”, “appropriate”, and consistent with international law.[/quote]

Neither of the two authors of the Palmer report (Geoffrey Palmer and Alvaro Uribe) have expertise in international law; ergo, their findings are not credible.[/quote]

They’re both lawyers. Palmer was a law professor.

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Sir Geoffrey Palmer QC, principal areas of practice…international law.

http://www.harbourchambers.co.nz/Barristers/Rt+Hon+Sir+Geoffrey+Palmer+QC.html

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
sets up blockades (literally starvings) Palestine [/quote]

Sorry, this was just such a bald face lie, I couldn’t leave it alone.

Here:

Gaza/West bank has the 8th highest obesity rate in the world among men and the 3rd highest in the world among women with about half of the women being obese (higher than the USA)

Maybe it’s because the fast food restaurants all over Gaza/West Bank like, say Pizza Hut and Kentucky Fried Chicken:

Seriously Pitt, are you a just a tremendous liar or just misinformed?[/quote]

Malnourished Palestinians aside, I believe our friend is referring to the Gaza blockade, which is almost universally held to be a breach of international law by scholars and practitioners of the discipline. [/quote]

In September 2011, the UN released their long-awaited Palmer Report - a 105 page document based on research and hearings conducted over the course of more than a year.

The report concluded that Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza is “LEGAL”, “appropriate”, and consistent with international law.[/quote]

Neither of the two authors of the Palmer report (Geoffrey Palmer and Alvaro Uribe) have expertise in international law; ergo, their findings are not credible.[/quote]

They’re both lawyers. Palmer was a law professor.[/quote]

I never asserted that they were not legally trained. However, being a lawyer does not make one an expert in regard to INTERNATIONAL law. Think of the myriad specializations in the medical field. You wouldn’t want a pediatrician performing your heart transplant, would you?

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“Principal areas of practice: …international law.”

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" He was elected a member of the American Law Institute, a Member of the American Association of International Law…For eight years he was New Zealand’s Commissioner to the International Whaling Commission…1995 Judge ad hoc, International Court of Justice…

Sir Geoffrey holds four doctorates/honorary doctorates: 1967 Doctor of Law (JD) cumlaude, University of Chicago; 1991 Doctor of Humane Letters Honoris Causa, Hofstra University, New York; 1997 Doctor of Laws, Honoris Causa, Washington University, St Louis; 2002 Doctor of Laws, Honoris Cuasa, Victoria University of Wellington."

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

“Principal areas of practice: …international law.”[/quote]

I trust the opinion of one of the most prominent international law scholars in the world in Richard Falk over a padded CV. Regardless, the intractable Israel-Palestine conflict is hardly black and white. I’m sure the death of over one hundred Palestinian civilians for the death of three Israeli teenagers won’t beget a vivacious circle of violence.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

“Principal areas of practice: …international law.”[/quote]

I trust the opinion of one of the most prominent international law scholars in the world in Richard Falk over a padded CV. Regardless, the intractable Israel-Palestine conflict is hardly black and white. [/quote]

Hey bissy, Palmer was chosen because he’s one of the world’s leading experts on International Maritime Law. Did you know that?

Hey bissy, Falk is a kook who has espoused 911 conspiracy theories and posts anti-Semitic cartoons on his blog. Did you know that?

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Falk promotes “911 inside job” conspiracy theory:

http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1316871&ct=11300119

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Falk promotes “911 inside job” conspiracy theory:

http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1316871&ct=11300119[/quote]

What a fucking heretic.

Next he’ll be telling us that Oswald didn’t act alone.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Falk promotes “911 inside job” conspiracy theory:

http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1316871&ct=11300119[/quote]

What a fucking heretic.

Next he’ll be telling us that Oswald didn’t act alone.[/quote]

My point here is as follows:

Palmer is a sober, disinterested legal scholar who has never spoken for or against Israel in his personal or professional capacity. By contrast, Falk is a radical Palestinian “rights” activist who not only espouses extreme anti-Israel positions in his personal capacity but used his position at the UN as a platform to agitate against the Jewish state and act as an apologist for Hamas.

However, I’m interested in what you’re trying to suggest in your comment. Do you question the official version of 911? If so, please give some details.