Escalation in Israel

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine. That’s the equivalent of saying America isn’t at fighting in Afghanistan right now, the Democrats are.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[/quote]

I thought there is no Palestine. Don’t you mean Gaza? You know, the prison,(a “prison” of their own making) equipt with rockets, suicide bombers and a terrorist government?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

Israel could have easily arrested these people as well . It would have taken no more than a presence like they used to have .

Does any one even know the identity of the killer or killers ?
[/quote]

Why should Israel arrest the killers? They are not governing Gaza, Hamas is. It’s their responsibility to arrest these people.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine. That’s the equivalent of saying America isn’t at fighting in Afghanistan right now, the Democrats are. [/quote]

It would be if there were 2 opposing forces , both parties squarely agree that our war on terror is a good thing . Corporate interests love it too. The only voices opposed to war are considered pariah .

interesting

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine. That’s the equivalent of saying America isn’t at fighting in Afghanistan right now, the Democrats are. [/quote]

It would be if there were 2 opposing forces , both parties squarely agree that our war on terror is a good thing . Corporate interests love it too. The only voices opposed to war are considered pariah .

interesting

[/quote]

You are aware that the article proves our point. Israel is fighting 75% of the Palestinians, which basically means they are fighting Palestinians and not Hamas.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[/quote]

I thought there is no Palestine. Don’t you mean Gaza? You know, the prison,(a “prison” of their own making) equipt with rockets, suicide bombers and a terrorist government?[/quote]

yes , you are right , my point is Israel is attacking the wrong people

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine. That’s the equivalent of saying America isn’t at fighting in Afghanistan right now, the Democrats are. [/quote]

It would be if there were 2 opposing forces , both parties squarely agree that our war on terror is a good thing . Corporate interests love it too. The only voices opposed to war are considered pariah .

interesting

[/quote]

You are aware that the article proves our point. Israel is fighting 75% of the Palestinians, which basically means they are fighting Palestinians and not Hamas.
[/quote]

yes , I understand that if Israel were to allow the Palestinians to vote that Israel would lose majority in their elections .

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

Israel could have easily arrested these people as well . It would have taken no more than a presence like they used to have .

Does any one even know the identity of the killer or killers ?
[/quote]

Why should Israel arrest the killers? They are not governing Gaza, Hamas is. It’s their responsibility to arrest these people.
[/quote]

no one is governing Gaza

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist? [/quote]

yes , I support Israels right to exist , I do not support Israels war on Gaza , I do not support turning Gaza in to a prison . If you want Gaza to be a prison at least run a humanitarianly sound one .

Water , Sewage , Electricity and trash . You can not put all the pieces in place that make it a prison and then just because you deny it is a prison just so you are not responsible for it

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

Israel could have easily arrested these people as well . It would have taken no more than a presence like they used to have .

Does any one even know the identity of the killer or killers ?
[/quote]

Why should Israel arrest the killers? They are not governing Gaza, Hamas is. It’s their responsibility to arrest these people.
[/quote]

no one is governing Gaza
[/quote]

wrong, Hamas is.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

Israel could have easily arrested these people as well . It would have taken no more than a presence like they used to have .

Does any one even know the identity of the killer or killers ?
[/quote]

Why should Israel arrest the killers? They are not governing Gaza, Hamas is. It’s their responsibility to arrest these people.
[/quote]

no one is governing Gaza
[/quote]

wrong, Hamas is. [/quote]

lol, dude, hats off to you for your determination but pitt openly admitted a couple pages ago he doesn’t care about facts he is going to make up his own reality over this situation.

I don’t know why you keep trying to engage him. He has admitted the truth is meaningless to him.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist? [/quote]

yes , I support Israels right to exist , I do not support Israels war on Gaza , I do not support turning Gaza in to a prison . If you want Gaza to be a prison at least run a humanitarianly sound one .

Water , Sewage , Electricity and trash . You can not put all the pieces in place that make it a prison and then just because you deny it is a prison just so you are not responsible for it
[/quote]

Israel has been footing the bill for Gaza’s power for years. Never been repaid. The whole prison bullshit really needs to stop. No one takes you seriously when you spew that non-sense.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist? [/quote]

yes , I support Israels right to exist , I do not support Israels war on Gaza , I do not support turning Gaza in to a prison . If you want Gaza to be a prison at least run a humanitarianly sound one .

Water , Sewage , Electricity and trash . You can not put all the pieces in place that make it a prison and then just because you deny it is a prison just so you are not responsible for it
[/quote]

Israel has been footing the bill for Gaza’s power for years. Never been repaid. The whole prison bullshit really needs to stop. No one takes you seriously when you spew that non-sense.
[/quote]

Like the prison takes care of the lights everywhere? Or do some prisons have prisoner maintainted facilities where they themselves pay the running costs?

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist? [/quote]

yes , I support Israels right to exist , I do not support Israels war on Gaza , I do not support turning Gaza in to a prison . If you want Gaza to be a prison at least run a humanitarianly sound one .

Water , Sewage , Electricity and trash . You can not put all the pieces in place that make it a prison and then just because you deny it is a prison just so you are not responsible for it
[/quote]

Israel has been footing the bill for Gaza’s power for years. Never been repaid. The whole prison bullshit really needs to stop. No one takes you seriously when you spew that non-sense.
[/quote]

America foots the bills for our prisons and don’t expect the prisons to pay us back

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist? [/quote]

yes , I support Israels right to exist , I do not support Israels war on Gaza , I do not support turning Gaza in to a prison . If you want Gaza to be a prison at least run a humanitarianly sound one .

Water , Sewage , Electricity and trash . You can not put all the pieces in place that make it a prison and then just because you deny it is a prison just so you are not responsible for it
[/quote]

Israel has been footing the bill for Gaza’s power for years. Never been repaid. The whole prison bullshit really needs to stop. No one takes you seriously when you spew that non-sense.
[/quote]

America foots the bills for our prisons and don’t expect the prisons to pay us back
[/quote]

The difference is Gaza and the West Bank are not a prison. They are supposed to be run by the elected Palestinian officials that have been funded hand over fist by the UN but are inept war mongers who take the money and use it to further there attempts to overrun Israel, who has in turn had to place sanctions against an enemy of their national security. The blockade is one tactic to keep conflicts like this from getting worse. Also, Israel is not the only group that has imposed a blockade on Palestine. Egypt is part of that too. Why aren’t you calling for Egypt to foot the bill for this?

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[quote]
Like the prison takes care of the lights everywhere? Or do some prisons have prisoner maintainted facilities where they themselves pay the running costs?[/quote]

Although the situation can be said to resemble a prison, it was not the point for Israels withdrawal from Gaza. It’s the result of a process. The embargo is not there to make gazans miserable, is it? It’s aim is to prevent Hamas from using the goods for their own aims. The result resembles a prison a la Carpenters Escape from New York, but the mechanics behind it are totally different.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Everyone condemns Israel for the bombardment of Gaza, but the solution to this would have been so simple it’s mind boggling. If the Palestinians are serious about ending the fight with Israel, wouldn’t they have arrested the ones responsible for killing the 3 teens and sentence them to death?

If it were any other civilized country in the world, they would do this. But the Palestinians stand behind the killers so Israel’s military reaction should not surprise them or any one else.[/quote]

This conflict, like this thread, will never really end. It’s always the same pattern. The Palestinians instigate a conflict, Israel responds, the world goes up in arms over the pictures of corpses from the conflict and begs Israel to stop. Israel eventually stops, Hamas rearms and re-instigates. Same thing happens again.
Aside from Israel, I don’t see anybody willing to do what needs to be done to create a sustainable peace. What needs to be done is ugly. Aside from an act of God or a change of heart on the part of the Arabs (which would be arguably more miraculous) in that part of the world, this will continue. It sucks. [/quote][/quote]

I say bullshit on 2 accounts

(1) it will end when Israel ceases to exist

(2) Palestine is not Attacking Israel
Humas:) is

The first point is inevitable

The second why Israel is wrong
[/quote]

So you do not support Israel’s right to exist? [/quote]

yes , I support Israels right to exist , I do not support Israels war on Gaza , I do not support turning Gaza in to a prison . If you want Gaza to be a prison at least run a humanitarianly sound one .

Water , Sewage , Electricity and trash . You can not put all the pieces in place that make it a prison and then just because you deny it is a prison just so you are not responsible for it
[/quote]

Israel has been footing the bill for Gaza’s power for years. Never been repaid. The whole prison bullshit really needs to stop. No one takes you seriously when you spew that non-sense.
[/quote]

America foots the bills for our prisons and don’t expect the prisons to pay us back
[/quote]

The difference is Gaza and the West Bank are not a prison. They are supposed to be run by the elected Palestinian officials that have been funded hand over fist by the UN but are inept war mongers who take the money and use it to further there attempts to overrun Israel, who has in turn had to place sanctions against an enemy of their national security. The blockade is one tactic to keep conflicts like this from getting worse. Also, Israel is not the only group that has imposed a blockade on Palestine. Egypt is part of that too. Why aren’t you calling for Egypt to foot the bill for this?
[/quote]

I would not call Egypt to foot the bill Because Egypt just closed it’s borders.

Israel even limits the distance ships can sail in the sea Israel has Gaza surrounded . I would agree that with out Egypt’s acquiescence the wall would not be complete

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Americans need to be alarmed by what Obama?s actions on behalf of Hamas reveal about the general direction of American Middle East policy under his leadership.

[/quote]

Americans have no need to be alarmed. The fact is there are 100s of millions of Muslims in the Middle East who control almost all the natural resources. In contrast, there are about 6 million Jews in the Middle East. Americans will get more out of siding with the Muslims than the Israeli’s tbh.[/quote]

Even if a large portion of those Muslims hate America just as much as Israel??[/quote]

And why would they ‘hate’ America? Perhaps because America does hateful things to them? I think you are so rooted in an American world view that you cannot conceive how the world might look for anyone else.

[/quote]

They hate us because we do not bow to the will of Allah…you have never read any of the Koran have you?

They will not stop until the world is under Muslim control.

They hate Jews and Christians…Israel and the U.S. just happen to have the most of both.

Oh and we let our bitches walk around in shorts, AND LET THEM VOTE.

/GASP